Oliver Trade Rumours

[Dr. Gonzo 24,286]

3 hours ago, Pipefitter said:

It’s really becoming like the Watts situation. Much loved fan favourite, all the talent in the world, someone you’d love to have a beer with, but just not professional enough. 
 

it’s a huge fall from grace for Clarry as coaching department inclusive of the Roos era we’re saying he was the most professional and competitive person they had ever seen. 

I remember thinking we got rolled for the Jack watts Trade, but the player brought in for him Fritsch, we don’t win the flag without him. 
 

I’m sad to see him go as I love our players. But I’m missing the player we was 2 years ago, not the one he is now who can’t even poll 1 brownlow vote in a season. 

 

The situation is incomparable. Clarrys cv speaks for itself, Jack Watts was a lightweight who never achieved anything.

[Young Blood 2,634]

2 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

The situation is incomparable. Clarrys cv speaks for itself, Jack Watts was a lightweight who never achieved anything.

Hey come on now. That one goal on QB was pretty good...

Edited October 3 by Young Blood

[BringBackTheDemon 142]

19 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

A future first rounder for the best midfielder the club has had in decades. That first rounder will likely be between picks 15-18 too, as Geelong have such a home ground advantage at this point then finals and top four are almost locked in annually. 

The idea that we lose Clarry for pick 15-18 next year is insane to me. This feels like we're entering Neeld era territory again somehow just three years after a flag. Only Melbourne could [censored] the bed this badly. I feel horrible, disappointed and defeated. 

The dysfunction is worse than Neeld years id say. Im not fussed with the compensation, I just want the Oliver saga to be over. 

The only hope for this club is a complete cleanout next offseason, that could bring some hope and positivity.

Next year is absolutely a write off however, but at least Goodwin, Pert and the current board have to endure it and not a first year coach, justice for what they have let happen to the club. 

[DeeSpencer 26,080]

10 minutes ago, demoncat said:

This is just damning stuff 

Unless…. It was all part of the plan and Perty’s taking one for the team 

[beelzebub 23,382]

Tbh.... I can only see a ship sinking...   the MFC Losertania ...  How it really comes to be floundering , who or what fired across which bow ??   Who's  in the bridge... Who's manning the lifeboats.... 

We know Who's sitting on a iceberg... 

Until the mists clear and ice clears we really can't be sure Who's Arthur, who's  Martha .

That said...  there's a captain that ought to go down with the ship.

There's a whole truck load of malarkey going on at present. 

I can't see us coming out either smelling of roses nor winning any bouquets.  

Best outcome.....dragging who's left back to the shore and starting over.

Sans a few people ;)

[daisycutter 29,734]

4 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Unless…. It was all part of the plan and Perty’s taking one for the team 

you don't really believe that ... do you?

[Demonland 73,140]

 

[BringBackTheDemon 142]

4 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

We are the weirdest club ive ever known. "Get out!...But come and say goodbye to everyone first!" ...Jesus Christ. 

[Clintosaurus 7,861]

Jay Clark can get [censored]. Nothing but a shill for Pies, Cats and Blues.

[old55 23,687]

The trade value Geelong gives and the amount of salary cap they pay are inversely proportional.

Decent draft pick and we pick up substantial salary

Later draft pick and they pay all the salary

I'd probably rather take a trade value hit than a salary cap hit,  but both have long term implications, a good draftee can give 12 years service.

[Bates Mate 4,510]

24 minutes ago, demoncat said:

This is just damning stuff 

Putting all the emotion of it aside. It's just dumb business. Devalues the asset straight up. Why contact a club without meaningful draft capital or players they are willing to give up. Again just really dumb 

 

[DeeSpencer 26,080]

6 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

you don't really believe that ... do you?

I don’t believe they would’ve just floated Oliver out there without considering it might actually happen. 
 

Not saying it was entirely their plan or the best way to do it but I’m not sure there was a good way if they’ve decided it was time to do it.

[KozzyCan 764]

2 hours ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

Surprised the confidential details of Clarry’s meeting with the club haven’t leaked yet. Wonder what the hold up is? 

Shocked we didn't have Tom Morris taking minutes.

[DeeSpencer 26,080]

4 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

Jay Clark can get [censored]. Nothing but a shill for Pies, Cats and Blues.

He’s also our preferred leak journo. 

[KozzyCan 764]

28 minutes ago, demoncat said:

This is just damning stuff 

The 'List Management Committee' wtf is that? Who want's to bet it's run by Pert and includes me, myself and I?

[KozzyCan 764]

2 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

He’s also our preferred leak journo. 

It would be unfair to pick favourites!

[Demon Jack 6,930]

13 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

 

 

[Fat Tony 5,262]

8 minutes ago, old55 said:

The trade value Geelong gives and the amount of salary cap they pay are inversely proportional.

Decent draft pick and we pick up substantial salary

Later draft pick and they pay all the salary

I'd probably rather take a trade value hit than a salary cap hit,  but both have long term implications, a good draftee can give 12 years service.

Cap space is much more important.

[Young Blood 2,634]

Damn Peatling went with Adelaide

Would have made all this a bit easier to swallow...

[Mel Bourne 4,534]

Will not be renewing membership while Pert is CEO. 

[beelzebub 23,382]

1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

i'm not expecting a really good trade with jeelong but i am expecting a reasonably good trade

if we let him go for peanuts or a bad deal then that will really do me in 

if jeelong really want to get him they have to make a decent offer and we have to play hardball. we must salvage something out of this ... or it should be no deal

It should be.... but think we might now find ourselves to far down a track to walk back. 

Seems like only yesterday we stuffed up....and here we are ( again ) 

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,510]

3 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

Cap space is much more important.

I’m not down on the details of how player payments work, but why is cap space useful when we have no one on comparable money to trade in..?

Is the idea that we could then renegotiate other contacts so they’re front-ended and use the money another year??

 

[mo64 5,881]

24 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Just tell him that the drinks are free, and he wouldn't miss it for the world.

[Demon Jack 6,930]

Looking forward to trading Oliver and coming into round 1 with a potential starting midfield of Sparrow, Parfitt and Rivers 🔥🔥🔥

[Gorgoroth 13,016]

5 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

I’m not down on the details of how player payments work, but why is cap space useful when we have no one on comparable money to trade in..?

Is the idea that we could then renegotiate other contacts so they’re front-ended and use the money another year??

 

Caps space is great when you are either on the verge of finals or a finals strong team, if you are plop is good for overpaying turnips who keep you near the bottom.

Edited October 3 by Gorgoroth