Oliver Trade Rumours

[Wizard of Koz 1,074]

What evidence is there that this is happening? Other than an a less than 50% hit rate journalist sending off a tweet?

 

[DubDee 24,703]

2 hours ago, daisycutter said:

how long does it take to melt a membership card in an 1100w microwave oven?

asking for a friend

The worst part is I don’t have a physical card so i’ll have to melt my phone 

[DubDee 24,703]

If we are pushing him out we will get screwed in the trade. Maybe a late first rounder at best. why would clubs pay more unless there are several interested

But I would demand to know why we are getting rid of our best player for peanuts   And not rumours or innuendo, actual reasons

[Undeeterred 3,095]

I will always maintain we should have shipped him last year and taken 4 first rounders to the draft. Heck, I was for sending Petty with him and taking 6.

Should have done the back burning last year when we could so we didn’t now have to put out this raging bushfire.

[DubDee 24,703]

10 minutes ago, Wizard of Koz said:

What evidence is there that this is happening? Other than an a less than 50% hit rate journalist sending off a tweet?

 

Journalists saying he was meeting with the Cats today

Seems pretty cut and dry

The reasons behind it are still a bit unclear 

[Skuit 10,002]

3 hours ago, Norm Smith's Curse said:

A good club might look at Oliver's issues last year and see Tassie coming in and press the trigger and try and trade one or two high calibre players after maximising their value.

A good club would have kept Clarry's issues as quiet as humanly possible and maximise that trade value then.

A good club would have sensed Petracca's issues and got out in front of the story as soon as it was said he would 'leave tomorrow if he could'.

Instead MFC leaked most of Clarry's issues themselves, did everything they could to reduce his trade value, and is now shopping him after he had his worst ever season due to lack of preseason.

MFC admitted to making minimal effort to stay in touch with Petracca's family after his injury to actually support Petracca's position that the club was the problem rather than he. 

MFC potentially leaked stories about Petracca to make him sound like a primadonna and in doing so lowered his value also. 

I heard tonight Kozzie is also considering his options. 

Laughable. 

I didn't know it was possible to cram this much [censored] into such a tiny space. 

[Ouch! 2,215]

Can I ask people an honest question? there are a lot of rumours about Clarry. If only a few of them are true, and the decision has been to part ways as the best option for all parties. Is it not incumbent on the MFC to look at the best option for itself, whilst also attempting to facilitate something that is in Clarry's interests too?

I have no inside info, I have no clue as to whether there is any language of "him or me" with Petracca, and I hate that we seem to be firmly in the spotlight yet again.... but 6 years left at a mil a season, which apparently is 7-8% of our cap. If we can facilitate an outcome of a 1st round pick and a good player that meets our needs, we may need to act for the best interests of the club. 

The MFC played the tough love card at the start of the season with Clarry, and I don't think they can play it again with him. 

I understand also that this is one of those decisions that can break a club, but it can also help galvanise (especially as it would appear that this is just one of those things that will not go away)  I don't judge anyone for hating the club if a call is made here.  TBH I'm still struggling with what happened to Gus, and seeing him make that speech and still looking like he is struggling with what has been put upon him.... so yeah I get the emotions.

[Mach5 4,710]

1 hour ago, BAMF said:

Michael Gleeson has reported on it. 

Read the article.

One of the few journalists who has maintained credibility over a long career and doesn't chase a controversy for the clicks.

He's weighed in because he firmly believes what he has heard.

It's the club that has started this. 

Clayton is on the market for the second year in a row at the clubs request. Clubs don't trade their best players for no reason, Clayton being traded is what the club believes is the best idea. He has less value now than he did last year and we will get  unders in return.

As reported, the club is in crisis.

It's time for us to accept it and stop trying to blame McClure, Morris and Gleeson for telling us the truth.

A sad time for the club, but the club lives on and the sun will rise tomorrow.

A bit rich, no?

[WERRIDEE 5,362]

I can't wait to they offload Oliver he has created headline after headline been a cancer to the club this year. He is an absolute disgrace. JUST GO CLARRY YOU HAVE MY BLESSING!

[Roost it far 7,643]

2 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

I can't wait to they offload Oliver he has created headline after headline been a cancer to the club this year. He is an absolute disgrace. JUST GO CLARRY YOU HAVE MY BLESSING!

 

With the club currently a joke I’m largely posting in GIF’s for awhile.

Edited Tuesday at 12:47 by Roost it far

[Mach5 4,710]

2 hours ago, Adam The God said:

It doesn't matter who he calls. If he has reached out in his capacity as a CEO, he has stepped into the list management lane, and he needs to be fired for it IMO.

I wonder if Pert would assume this role himself if TL were to be relieved of his duties..?

[Skuit 10,002]

9 hours ago, Demonland said:

 

Tom Morris reading out the synopsis of his own novel to potential publishers is my new ASMR bedtime routine. 

[deespicable me 1,472]

1 hour ago, watchtheeyes said:

You know.. I’m finding myself increasingly moving in this direction. Maybe he has been the root of all problems culturally for several years now and we need to accept the short term pain to move forward for the next 5 years and beyond.

I’m also a little surprised at how outraged I’ve felt. He was not good this year.. and even when he was winning the ball, he was blindly throwing the ball on his boot, inevitably to an opposition player who would rebound the other way. Time and again. Opposition teams could rely on it.

Maybe him moving on will allow us to reset the culture. Maybe it is what is needed to satisfy Petracca. And maybe it will go some way to fixing our offensive issues.

I don’t know.. but maybe it would turn out to be the right thing..?

I think these are valid points. I also like the use of the word "Maybe". Football clubs are full of "let's make our own story!" If we are successful with Clarrie then it was the right thing to do. If not then maybe we should have moved him on when we had the chance. If he moves on during this trade period and we become successful again then we did the right thing moving him on. If we move him on and have another bad year then gee we missed Clarrie.

The funny thing is out of all four scenarios whichever one does come to fruition there will be a bunch of hindsight Harry's telling us how they knew this was going to happen! 

[Jaded No More 68,602]

14 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

I can't wait to they offload Oliver he has created headline after headline been a cancer to the club this year. He is an absolute disgrace. JUST GO CLARRY YOU HAVE MY BLESSING!

The only absolute disgrace is this post 

[Return to Glory 8,397]

Clarrie, as great a footballer as he is, has always come across as a little immature and easily lead. I can't help but feel that the genesis of much of this was when we seemingly did away with the 'no DH' rule. A recently retired player (and poor driver) who came to us from a West Melbourne club was a certified DH and, from all accounts, a son of a gun who cannot play for us for a while, if ever. smashed through the DH ceiling also. 

His head was turned.

I may well be wrong but this has always been my gut feel.

 

 

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 13:08 by Return to Glory

[WERRIDEE 5,362]

4 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

The only absolute disgrace is this post 

It's not a disgrace it's fact he is a bad influence and should have been traded last year. I want people like him and Smith out of the club.

[daisycutter 29,429]

23 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

 

With the club currently a joke I’m largely posting in GIF’s for awhile.

[2021 159]

37 minutes ago, Undeeterred said:

I will always maintain we should have shipped him last year and taken 4 first rounders to the draft. Heck, I was for sending Petty with him and taking 6.

Should have done the back burning last year when we could so we didn’t now have to put out this raging bushfire.

We were looking after the individual, not the player

[deespicable me 1,472]

42 minutes ago, Undeeterred said:

I will always maintain we should have shipped him last year and taken 4 first rounders to the draft. Heck, I was for sending Petty with him and taking 6.

Should have done the back burning last year when we could so we didn’t now have to put out this raging bushfire.

A wonderful analogy Undeeterred

[Wizard of Koz 1,074]

This is not just any run of the mill commodity

[2021 159]

Those wondering if there is anything in this potential trade situation, just listen to Cal T., he doesn’t go with stuff like this unless it’s legit, unlike others.

[Skuit 10,002]

Clarry is the ginger-ninja. 

Players who I have felt upset about leaving the MFC:

Jeff Farmer (to be honest, I can't remember my feelings that much).

Liam Jurrah (I thought we could still work it out).

Sam Frost (made football fun, but I got over it after a good breakfast). 

If Clayton, Trac or Kysaiah leave, I'll probably take the opportunity as well. 

Soft. But I'm sick of this abusive relationship. 

And our own fans who constantly gaslight and fuel it. 

 

[Ethan Tremblay 30,394]

8 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Any link between Trac staying and Oliver going?

Damien Barrett sure thinks so on Trade Radio.

Damien Barrett is a [censored] moron. 

[Ethan Tremblay 30,394]

1 hour ago, WERRIDEE said:

I can't wait to they offload Oliver he has created headline after headline been a cancer to the club this year. He is an absolute disgrace. JUST GO CLARRY YOU HAVE MY BLESSING!

Your post says more about you than what it does Clarry. He has been an amazing player for us, one of our best, ever. Who knows what someone is going through/experiencing that can often lead to certain, abnormal (for them) behaviours. How about you quit being such a child and show him some support. Since bombing out of the finals two seasons in a row, in straight sets, we’ve been low-hanging fruit for the media. Don’t blame Clarry for the media’s almost constant witch-hunt, over the last year or so, on our club. Consider how the media would react if one of our players found themselves in a situation similar to that of Stengle earlier this season? The media would have been unforgiving. Yet, Stengle, who plays for Geelong, has faced little to no backlash

Edited Tuesday at 14:24 by Ethan Tremblay

[BAMF 4,172]

1 hour ago, Mach5 said:

A bit rich, no?

Maybe.

I owe some people on here and apologies and I realise how rose coloured my views have been. Looking back I can see how I've stuck my head in the sand and thought thing would just turn out alright.

I'm as disappointed as everyone else.