On 01/10/2024 at 10:33, Adam The God said:

It doesn't matter who he calls. If he has reached out in his capacity as a CEO, he has stepped into the list management lane, and he needs to be fired for it IMO.

Oh you have that confirmed do you? 
 

Have you been hacked? WTF is going on?

If what I say above proves accurate.. the thing I would hate about it the most is it would prove Cornes right..

Sickening.

I dont thiink my favourite player will be at the club next year.... just a gut feeling🤯

Demonlands speciality is clutching at straws and clutching at pearls simultaneously.

Until anything comes from the club or Clarry it can be safely ignored. Much like all the Petracca stuff.

Cannot fathom Clarry at another club.

If we are the ones pushing this, we are officially in rebuild mode.

Hope it's all BS but these are sad times for our club. 

  On 01/10/2024 at 11:27, picket fence said:

I dont thiink my favourite player will be at the club next year.... just a gut feeling🤯

Spargo on the move!?

  On 01/10/2024 at 07:05, Diamond_Jim said:

Ironic

Trac takes out Roffey and now Oliver takes out Pert (metaphorically speaking)

Who is next you wonder

If it was suggested before that Pert was the reason why Trac originally wanted out, and now its Oliver, surely Pert:s allegiances should come under question as to whether he has past/ present contact strings on his mind?

Does anyone here want to vouch for Gary or not?

  On 01/10/2024 at 11:22, rpfc said:

Oh you have that confirmed do you? 
 

Have you been hacked? WTF is going on?

No, I said 'if'.

  On 01/10/2024 at 11:09, ANG13 said:

It really is quite unbelievable and incredibly sad where we currently find ourselves again. 

 

You were right!

  On 01/10/2024 at 11:27, picket fence said:

I dont thiink my favourite player will be at the club next year.... just a gut feeling🤯

Have you heard more?

  On 01/10/2024 at 11:42, Adam The God said:

Have you heard more?

No just a gut feel

  On 01/10/2024 at 10:01, adonski said:

Day after the brownlow! That's ominous!

Day after the Brownlow there would have been half the AFL playing squads that should have been cleared

Clarry will be a special player in MFC history but the game is changing and we need to evolve our midfield. 

The only mistake we made was not making the trade with Adelaide last year. Whether it was a mental health reason who knows but we dropped the ball big time.

Trac - as much as I loathe him for his antics - is the better player and has much more impact so should be the one we keep. 

I have become so used to this media noise I really don’t care for it anymore. It’s liberating. 

seems pretty clear we've told him to assess his options; whether that means he leaves or not is a different matter

i find it interesting that his first port of call is a club that kicked the tyres this time last year - the difference being that this time the puddy tatts don't have anything close to what i would expect oliver would be worth to us in a trade scenario

i don't understand criticising pert for being a ceo involved in the football dept - that's literally a football club ceo's biggest portfolio 

that's why you get people like pert, kelly, hocking, gale etc. in there; they've got 30 plus years of footballing business understanding and experience

you actually DO want them having the direct conversations around pushing your second highest paid staff member out of the club - to do so would, i assume, be something that would be ratified by the board

the amount of effort it required to keep players like oliver in line, and yet always provide a bail out option, is enormous - there’s a line where it becomes a whole-club distraction and other staff members - players, off field, etc. - begin to get a bit over it

there's a reason why oliver was meeting hocking down at the cattery - bringing in a player with his pay packet and rumoured off field behaviour is a senior exec decision that would be taken to the board for approval as he'd be one of the highest paid players no matter where he goes

  On 01/10/2024 at 11:40, adonski said:

Spargo on the move!?

No, isn't it Jefferson?! 😂

The club did right by Oliver last year, for him as a person. If we were acting based on just football, he would have gone. I don't know about the current state of what is happening, but I'm assuming we have pointed out to Oliver that we did right by him, when he needed it, and now it's time for him to do right by us, whatever that is.

  On 01/10/2024 at 09:58, BDA said:

If the club decide to retain Clarry and believe he can get back to his best I’ll back the club in.

If the club decide its best part ways with Clarry I’ll back the club in.

How can you trust the club? For all of Goodwin’s flaws, he’s honest to a fault. When he declared that Oliver is loved, that he’ll be in the red & blue next year, and he’s never seen a player so ready to tackle a pre-season, then I believe him. This to me seems a division within the club where Pert has made a unilateral decision to gauge interest in trading Oliver. I’ve got no faith in this club anymore and I’m embarrassed how far we’ve fallen since 2021. 

Edited October 1, 2024Oct 1 by At the break of Gawn

  On 01/10/2024 at 12:09, 2021 said:

The club did right by Oliver last year, for him as a person. If we were acting based on just football, he would have gone. I don't know about the current state of what is happening, but I'm assuming we have pointed out to Oliver that we did right by him, when he needed it, and now it's time for him to do right by us, whatever that is.

The club is pushing him out. It’s the exact same situation when Watts (who was 1 year into a new contract) was asked to look around. Except this time it’s arguably the best MFC player we’ve seen in 30 years. Pert clearly has no faith in his ability to get back to his best. If there’s anyone who deserves a second crack, it’s Clarry.

What evidence is there that this is happening? Other than an a less than 50% hit rate journalist sending off a tweet?

 

  On 01/10/2024 at 10:20, daisycutter said:

how long does it take to melt a membership card in an 1100w microwave oven?

asking for a friend

The worst part is I don’t have a physical card so i’ll have to melt my phone 

If we are pushing him out we will get screwed in the trade. Maybe a late first rounder at best. why would clubs pay more unless there are several interested

But I would demand to know why we are getting rid of our best player for peanuts   And not rumours or innuendo, actual reasons

I will always maintain we should have shipped him last year and taken 4 first rounders to the draft. Heck, I was for sending Petty with him and taking 6.

Should have done the back burning last year when we could so we didn’t now have to put out this raging bushfire.

  On 01/10/2024 at 12:25, Wizard of Koz said:

What evidence is there that this is happening? Other than an a less than 50% hit rate journalist sending off a tweet?

 

Journalists saying he was meeting with the Cats today

Seems pretty cut and dry

The reasons behind it are still a bit unclear 

  On 01/10/2024 at 09:33, Norm Smith's Curse said:

A good club might look at Oliver's issues last year and see Tassie coming in and press the trigger and try and trade one or two high calibre players after maximising their value.

A good club would have kept Clarry's issues as quiet as humanly possible and maximise that trade value then.

A good club would have sensed Petracca's issues and got out in front of the story as soon as it was said he would 'leave tomorrow if he could'.

Instead MFC leaked most of Clarry's issues themselves, did everything they could to reduce his trade value, and is now shopping him after he had his worst ever season due to lack of preseason.

MFC admitted to making minimal effort to stay in touch with Petracca's family after his injury to actually support Petracca's position that the club was the problem rather than he. 

MFC potentially leaked stories about Petracca to make him sound like a primadonna and in doing so lowered his value also. 

I heard tonight Kozzie is also considering his options. 

Laughable. 

I didn't know it was possible to cram this much [censored] into such a tiny space. 

Can I ask people an honest question? there are a lot of rumours about Clarry. If only a few of them are true, and the decision has been to part ways as the best option for all parties. Is it not incumbent on the MFC to look at the best option for itself, whilst also attempting to facilitate something that is in Clarry's interests too?

I have no inside info, I have no clue as to whether there is any language of "him or me" with Petracca, and I hate that we seem to be firmly in the spotlight yet again.... but 6 years left at a mil a season, which apparently is 7-8% of our cap. If we can facilitate an outcome of a 1st round pick and a good player that meets our needs, we may need to act for the best interests of the club. 

The MFC played the tough love card at the start of the season with Clarry, and I don't think they can play it again with him. 

I understand also that this is one of those decisions that can break a club, but it can also help galvanise (especially as it would appear that this is just one of those things that will not go away)  I don't judge anyone for hating the club if a call is made here.  TBH I'm still struggling with what happened to Gus, and seeing him make that speech and still looking like he is struggling with what has been put upon him.... so yeah I get the emotions.