2 minutes ago, BLWNBA said:

Four vastly different situations. 

Name another club that has this happening all at once.... if the environment was better, not even Nibbler would consider leaving.

6 minutes ago, Nascent said:

Cant see how Geelong make this happen. Guess we'll see how much we really want Oliver.

Conspiracy theorist in me says Melbourne are pulling the strings in the background, quietly promising Geelong they’ll get him at a good discount (eg future 1st or even 2nd rounder this yr), possibly even including some of his salary in the deal, all in an attempt to move him on without it looking like we were pushing it.

4 minutes ago, Rednblueriseing said:

Good on you, but losing players of this calibre this just rips the soul out off the club

sort of but not really

the soul of the club is the supporters, not the players

2 minutes ago, greenwaves said:

If we get two first rounders I'm taking it and running

How does Geelong get 2 first rounders, and both Smith who they are committed to, and Oliver?

12 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

The bemusement makes us look stupid 

Or it just makes Oliver look devious. 

5 minutes ago, Rednblueriseing said:

losing players of this calibre this just rips the soul out off the club

I reckon what went down with Clarry 12 months ago was what ripped the soul out of the club.

2 minutes ago, greenwaves said:

If we get two first rounders I'm taking it and running

Geelong will probably offer a 2nd rounder in exchange for paying his whole salary. Best maybe a future 1st.

4 minutes ago, Rednblueriseing said:

Good on you, but losing players of this calibre this just rips the soul out off the club

If he goes it will be on our terms. He has a long term contract with us same as trac. If this happens it’s because the club made not the call, not Clarry and not the cats. 

1 minute ago, Rednblueriseing said:

Name another club that has this happening all at once.... if the environment was better, not even Nibbler would consider leaving.

I can't stand Goodwin, and I have huge issues with Pert and Roffey, I'm on the record there. But the club can't be blamed for Oliver's immaturity, extraneous strings pulling at Petracca and ANB has legitimate reasons to go back to SA. I completely disagree with your definitive statement on ANB; and until you've been in a situation like that there's no point projecting. 

Whilst I somewhat agree with your point around the environment being subpar, the whataboutism is a completely hypothetical point. 

 

9 minutes ago, manny100 said:

Cats mids are ordinary. They have no good trade capital.

A top 6 pick for a start required.

Oliver plays for Dee's in '25 or he sits the season out on leave without pay.

 

 

I highly doubt player contracts allow for arbitrary non-payment to players lol 

3 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Conspiracy theorist in me says Melbourne are pulling the strings in the background, quietly promising Geelong they’ll get him at a good discount (eg future 1st or even 2nd rounder this yr), possibly even including some of his salary in the deal, all in an attempt to move him on without it looking like we were pushing it.

As much as I dont want to buy into trading Oliver I wouldn't be surprised if stuff like this happens.

2 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Conspiracy theorist in me says Melbourne are pulling the strings in the background, quietly promising Geelong they’ll get him at a good discount (eg future 1st or even 2nd rounder this yr), possibly even including some of his salary in the deal, all in an attempt to move him on without it looking like we were pushing it.

If they wanted to trade him, they wouldn't need to do this - clearly there is plenty of interest (eg Crows last year).  Many teams still tagged him even though he was not match fit and had a broken hand.  He is clearly highly rated - a multiple coaches award winner.

To do what you are suggesting would be stupid as it reduces his trade value.

So who's next for the player "allegedly" wanting out of Melbourne? Back to Petracca?

How in tune with us is Jon Ralph at the minute.  He seems to be the follow up to a lot of our player stories at the moment.

SDK? Left out of their prelim team.

Conspiracy theory - Demonland administrators leak fake Oliver meeting with Geelong news, in order to get post numbers back up to the Petracca incident levels.

1 minute ago, deelusions from afar said:

If they wanted to trade him, they wouldn't need to do this - clearly there is plenty of interest (eg Crows last year).  Many teams still tagged him even though he was not match fit and had a broken hand.  He is clearly highly rated - a multiple coaches award winner.

To do what you are suggesting would be stupid as it reduces his trade value.

Yet it would save face with the members. Not sure which is more valuable right now. 

Apparently Barassi wants out!!

5 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

How does Geelong get 2 first rounders, and both Smith who they are committed to, and Oliver?

It's not going to be that...

unfortunately it's now about simply getting a mega contract off our books. The picks will be middling to reasonable without being high

4 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Must have been Jonesing for a free avo smash , was Clayton

Bizarre

1 minute ago, Superunknown said:

Must have been Jonesing for a free avo smash , was Clayton

Bizarre

Lol, could you imagine if it was just an elaborate troll by clarry.

2 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

It's not going to be that...

unfortunately it's now about simply getting a mega contract off our books. The picks will be middling to reasonable without being high

Well unless we are trying to offload his contract to make space for another mega star player, this will absolutely not fly with supporters.

Would you be happy with trading Clarry for unders, watch him help Geelong contend YET AGAIN, and all we get out of it is salary cap relief which we don't need?

The members of this club have spoken loudly this year. We lost 10,000 members, and attendance dropped off. Trade Clarry for unders and watch the bottom fall out.

IF we trade Clarry, it has to result in someone very good coming back in return. Not more mid tier draft picks. 
 

Tigers would probably be prepared to kick in a couple of early first rounders plus say, Taranto.

10 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

The good old “I took this meeting just to laugh in your face!” trick by Oliver…