POSTGAME: Rd 15 vs North Melbourne

[Deesprate 1,278]

Whilst not expecting to beat Lions it the way we go about it that mean more. Is it just me or do we have any plan other than bombing the ball in. Nth repeatedly sat back know we had no plan B and then cut us up running forward. Full kudos to the backline it could easily have been worse than five goals in the last. Whilst Fritta didn’t lay a glove the disposal to him and others was woeful. It was all so predictable we rarely break lines and when we do we rarely find space. Surely the brain trust could address this as it so bleedin obvious.

[layzie 30,404]

9 hours ago, The heart beats true said:

Yeah, not having a crack at you ElDiablo. Just saying I can’t stand it when people have a go at the supporters that do show up.

It is weak.

I'm with you. It's a cheap trick and stupid. 

[beelzebub 22,724]

28 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Those who are deriding posters for being overly negative, I get it. We won, and winning is always better than losing.

But looking long-term at our recent performance and moving forward, the win against the Kangas did nothing to allay the concerns many have about our form and the trajectory of this team. It's the same as the win against the Saints - yeah great to get the win but the proof will be in the following games and in the following games we got spanked by Freo and dominated by Collingwood.

If we lose by 10 goals plus to the Lions what does the win against North mean? So yeah, great to get the win and my kids certainly appreciated it but I'll temper my joy until I see a more prolonged period of good form.

It's not all Doom and Gloom....

That comes later today when we're unceromoniously turfed out the Eight !!

Meanwhiles.......

[Demonsone 1,740]

2 hours ago, ElDiablo14 said:

I'll just ask the following:

If we find ourselves 2026 with no finals wins, so no more premierships from this current core, would you find yourself disappointed? Specially looking back at October 2021 and what you thought about our future?

That window has closed and list hasn’t improved by bringing in spuds, game plan has gotten worse, just making up numbers if we make finals

[beelzebub 22,724]

6 minutes ago, Deesprate said:

Whilst not expecting to beat Lions it the way we go about it that mean more. Is it just me or do we have any plan other than bombing the ball in. Nth repeatedly sat back know we had no plan B and then cut us up running forward. Full kudos to the backline it could easily have been worse than five goals in the last. Whilst Fritta didn’t lay a glove the disposal to him and others was woeful. It was all so predictable we rarely break lines and when we do we rarely find space. Surely the brain trust could address this as it so bleedin obvious.

There's no plan B

Plan A aint that crash hot either

[Roger Mellie 3,668]

17 minutes ago, Jeremy said:

Coming off his best game of the year, kicking 3.1 on Darcy Moore, JVR had 68% game time last night and 19 ruck contests. That’s ridiculous. Are we trying to turn this guy into our best forward or not? Hardly giving him a chance to succeed as a forward with those numbers. In the ruck far too much 

My guess is he still has groin issues, but that doesn't explain why he played in the ruck instead of say, Petty

[Flowergirl 69]

2 hours ago, ElDiablo14 said:

I'll just ask the following:

If we find ourselves 2026 with no finals wins, so no more premierships from this current core, would you find yourself disappointed? Specially looking back at October 2021 and what you thought about our future?

Of course I'd be disappointed, but having been a long suffering Dee's fan, I'll be grateful for 2021. It was an amazing achievement. 

I just don't think it's healthy to be this negative. And I don't like the attitude many on here have about the players. They are human beings. And they do care. 

[layzie 30,404]

1 hour ago, BDA said:

She’ll be disappointed like the rest of us.

But that’s the life of a sports fan. Disappointment most of the time.

All we can demand is effort and commitment from the team. And we got that consistently for the last 3 years. Something has gone awry this year. No idea what but its not a happy camp based on the performances delivered. The rest is the vagaries of sport. Battered and bruised coming into 22 finals. Couldn’t kick straight last year against the pies or Carlton. As a fan you just go with the flow. Constant sh*tting on the team just marks you out as an abusive fan.

We’re not winning a flag this year. A spot from 6-8 is what we’re playing for I reckon. Hopefully win a final and at least get that monkey off our backs.

Adjust your expectations and you’ll enjoy it more. Focus on the development of the promising youngsters we have. Let the club do their review at the end of the year and change up the coaching team as needed. In the meantime, get along to the games if you can and just support the team.

This is 100% correct. 

I never thought qe were making top 4 or winning it this year and it was seen as negative by some. I thought making the 8 was where this team was at.

Playing finals and hopefully winning a final is a good step in the long run.

[Boots and all 955]

9 hours ago, Earl Hood said:

Thoughts post match: 

why did the AFL change the ruck dual rules? They have gone full circle in 35 years. They brought in the dividing line to stop ruckman wrestling each other. Then the limiting circle to limit the run up ( which curtailed Jeff White’s dominance) and now we have reverted to wrestling again that allows big muscle bound brutes negate probably the best tap ruckman the game has seen. Please explain AFL! 
 

I thought the free kick for a faked handball to get the player on the mark to move was removed last year, but it’s back it seems. 
 

Regarding Oliver time for a spell at Casey. He is a liability. Let’s run the kids through there for the rest of the season. 
 

Let’s play  Fritta up the ground for a few games. He has mobility and skills and needs to get involved in the play.

continue playing the kids, the season is shot I think. Let’s work out who is part of future, now. 
 

Fitness - I have serious doubts about our stamina, ability to run out games. 

I find that the Dees ability to arrest momentum has fallen away markedly. Despite playing better recently, even the lowly The tin-rattlers were sadly able to get on runs making us look second rate at times. I'm sure there is a strategy to curtail momentum but we either don't have the experience across the ground to implement it effectively or the strategy isn't working. 

[SPC 3,063]

This is unlikely to happen but I would love to see Kynan settled into and develop into a half back this year. IMO we are still one really good small defender short in the back half. Howes is weak one on one as is Bowey. Bowey could move onto a wing or half forward. Chandler could cut oranges for a few weeks till he finds a pair.. 

Juddy will be sublime when he enters the midfield rotation this year or next. 
 

[Redleg 38,544]

10 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

What about the 75m 50m penalty? Roos got a good 3-4 goals from absolute howlers tonight. 

And we will say nothing at least publically as usual.

[Redleg 38,544]

10 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

I wonder if they put it up on The Bounce and the the boys to measure it. The umpires  have becone embarrassing

Brad Johnson was going beserk about it after the game on Fox.

Reiwoldt and Eddy agreed.

[Older demon 2,323]

Can I bring some perspective.

I was lucky enough to be at the Presidents function and the guest speaker almost brought me to tears. Her name is Toni and Steven May is her favourite and he wore her name on his warm-up vest. Look it up and see Toni's story as she met Maisie at Casey this week and there is an Insta photo of her with him post game.

Diagnosed triple-negative breast cancer at the age of 31. Despite becoming infertile a surrogate derived her and hubby a family and then it returns and has metastasised to her brain. Somewhere in all this turmoil she wins the Amazing race and has the courage to state that statistically sometime this year she will become another victim of the cancer. She even stated it could be as early as October. I am not sure I could talk as candidly as she did to an audience. I really didn't mind her saying feck a lot and she was so brave, extroverted and I am glad Maysie played a blinder for her. Somehow the narrow win was nice be she left a legacy with me that goes beyond the game.

My only complaint for the night (umpires aside) is the miserable crumb that thought they could pocket my MCC/MFC staff and pink beanie I left under my seat when I moved away briefly at the end of the game. 

Not our best night but we won. I am so proud of this club for its commitment to Pink Lady and MND. The rest well, it is only a game and the sun came up this morning.

 

[leave it to deever 16,581]

Once again a forward line that falls down again. 11 goals against the bottom side. That includes you too Fritta. And before anyone says it was bombed in, I didn't see too many players leading into space so there's that. 

So sad to get excited to see Petty marking at half forward and being a connection we so desperately need when that's what he is actually paid to do.

Edited June 23 by leave it to deever

[beelzebub 22,724]

10 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

We will end this round just 1 game and 7% outside the top 4, and just percentage behind 3-4 other sides, with 9 games to play.

It’s a pretty decent platform to work with if we can find it within us to right the ship. 

Will we ??? 

Don't think so..    Fockers play Brisvegas

Freo wins.. 34 pts... we're out

Suns win..   32 pts...better %...  we're out.

Just sayin' 

[dl4e 5,702]

Well last nights game was a close contest as it should be between two bottom 4 sides. Melbourne played the cellar dweller of the competition perfectly by being more than 5 goals in front and then collapsing to almost lose ( the other side were to incompetent to win it ). 

[beelzebub 22,724]

18 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Brad Johnson was going beserk about it after the game on Fox.

Reiwoldt and Eddy agreed.

I seriously thought he was just taking him to the square.. beyond a joke.

[binman 39,569]

10 hours ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Me too, then I remembered I left a 10yr old in the front row.

And I realised why it’s good to win, he couldn’t stop smiling after the game. 

I met a mate and his young son after the game and walked into town with them.

The young fella, decked out in his signed Steve May jumper, was [censored] a hoop.

Loving life, kicking his footy, talking about the game and loving his team.

Wise beyond his years, he knows you celebrate and enjoy the wins when they come. 

[leave it to deever 16,581]

A three point win is actually pretty good if one looks at the stats

 

We were beaten in disposals, marks and every other stat that's important.

Smashed in the clearances. 

Even the i50s.

We did win the hit outs.

Edited June 23 by leave it to deever

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,638]

When was the last time a club won a game with less than 300 possessions? That’s genuine 1980’s and 1990’s quantity.

Usually clubs that’s don’t crack 300 cop a belting.

[Ethan Tremblay 28,833]

We need Goodwin, or another senior offical, to be interviewed by a Journalist, NOW. 

[Willmoy1947 3,855]

12 hours ago, Left Foot Snap said:

Suck on that umpires!!!

Number 1 has joined the maggot club.

[leave it to deever 16,581]

4 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

When was the last time a club won a game with less than 300 possessions? That’s genuine 1980’s and 1990’s quantity.

Usually clubs that’s don’t crack 300 cop a belting.

Or has 70 less than the opposition?

[Queanbeyan Demon 6,230]

1 hour ago, Deesprate said:

Whilst not expecting to beat Lions it the way we go about it that mean more. Is it just me or do we have any plan other than bombing the ball in. Nth repeatedly sat back know we had no plan B and then cut us up running forward. Full kudos to the backline it could easily have been worse than five goals in the last. Whilst Fritta didn’t lay a glove the disposal to him and others was woeful. It was all so predictable we rarely break lines and when we do we rarely find space. Surely the brain trust could address this as it so bleedin obvious.

 

1 hour ago, beelzebub said:

There's no plan B

Plan A aint that crash hot either

Maybe we move to plan Z. It's been done previously.

[Redleg 38,544]

6 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

I seriously thought he was just taking him to the square.. beyond a joke.

The AFL appears to have admitted on their site the Windsor 50 was an error and will this week admit this one too.

They will not admit the Sheezel htb, the Kozzie put down well after he kicked it, the Petty non mark, the Tom Mac front on spoil, the Clarry  drag down and scrags at the stoppages, several other non htb calls to us and several soft ones to them, giving them half their score from frees or 50's. At one stage it was 9-4 frees to them in the last quarter and 3 of our 4 were marks we had already taken and an OOB on the full, essentially 9-1.

My barometer for umpiring is Mrs. Redleg, who unlike me hardly even notices them and she was screaming out "they are blatantly cheating and trying to get the Roos a win because of last week."

On a positive note, to have won with nothing from Fritta,and Clarry and  playing against 4 extra players was good.

BTW are our coaching panel watching the game, where was the extra defender in the last few minutes?