On 12/06/2025 at 06:44, Demonstone said:

The Simpsons has always been the best at predicting future events...

1 hour ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Send him to Collingwood. He was happy to hug and laugh with that #4 thug that plays in the white and black.

he cant go to the pies, they have no cap, no picks and the players they have taken in the first round are [censored], carlton is the same but they are in a much worse position then the pies and us, the only place he can go is the tigers or saints but they are no better then us so there is really no point. i will give him the benefit of the doubt this year because of the injury but next year there is no excuses

25 minutes ago, Redleg said:

I have a new most disliked player-Butters.

I find his behaviour on the field pathetic.

Totally agree.

he also looks like Ramsay Bolton from GoT.

I would absolutely kill for Butters to be in our side. He’ll do absolutely bonkers things for his team.

As tough/kamikaze as Viney, as damaging as Trac and a better kick than our entire side. He had a few kicks out of contest today that were just brilliant, his vision must be phenomenal.

2 hours ago, BW511 said:

I would absolutely kill for Butters to be in our side. He’ll do absolutely bonkers things for his team.

As tough/kamikaze as Viney, as damaging as Trac and a better kick than our entire side. He had a few kicks out of contest today that were just brilliant, his vision must be phenomenal.

Butters is just about my favourite non Dees player in the comp

Yes he’s a [censored] talker but no one puts their body on the line like he does

And he hits targets - imagine that!

Edited June 15Jun 15 by demoncat

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cal is the only media person who repeatedly says that we've targeted key forwards over the last few years

most other media nuffies just say that we should...completely ignoring that it ain't for want of trying...

49 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

cal is the only media person who repeatedly says that we've targeted key forwards over the last few years

He also confirms how hard it is to get them to move.

1 hour ago, whatwhat say what said:

cal is the only media person who repeatedly says that we've targeted key forwards over the last few years

most other media nuffies just say that we should...completely ignoring that it ain't for want of trying...

I agree we have been looking and those who say otherwise are 'nuffies'.

However, we haven't landed anything. That's not good enough.

If you believe reports, Ben King will be a pie. If that does happen that would mean Collingwood would have brought in McStay and King in 5 years. Us? Fullarton (does he count)?

6 minutes ago, MurDoc516 said:

If you believe reports, Ben King will be a pie. If that does happen that would mean Collingwood would have brought in McStay and King in 5 years. Us? Fullarton (does he count)?

i have not seen said reports - the gc17 player that seems to get most commonly linked to the filth is matt rowell

ben king is signed up there til the end of 2026 on massive coin that would see him clearly be a restricted free agent when he comes ooc; they ain't going to give him easily

2 hours ago, MurDoc516 said:

If you believe reports, Ben King will be a pie. If that does happen that would mean Collingwood would have brought in McStay and King in 5 years. Us? Fullarton (does he count)?

McStay has never kicked more than 28 goals in a season. He wouldn't have changed our fortunes.

3 minutes ago, seventyfour said:

McStay has never kicked more than 28 goals in a season. He wouldn't have changed our fortunes.

In our long bomb forward line he would be hopeless. With the pies exceptional delivery he looks a million dollars

Carlton have curnow and mckay yet still struggle because their mids delivery is as bad as ours

deliver the ball property and coach our forwards some method and we might have a chance.

Zac Bailey may be gettable, according to the internet

24 minutes ago, adonski said:

Zac Bailey may be gettable, according to the internet

he's not the model of consistency but he is a fantastic player to watch when on song

29 minutes ago, adonski said:

Zac Bailey may be gettable, according to the internet

Link?

He’s a gun and would be a dream get if there was any way to bring him in

On 15/06/2025 at 20:17, Spargonicus said:

Totally agree.

he also looks like Ramsay Bolton from GoT.

I see that as a good thing. Bring him in and whoever is the new whipping boy we can refer to as reek.

1 hour ago, BDA said:

Carlton have curnow and mckay yet still struggle because their mids delivery is as bad as ours

deliver the ball property and coach our forwards some method and we might have a chance.

This.

Curnow was hopeless today and that was nothing to do with Curnow.

I'm sure it's an unpopular opinion who those who think a key forward will solve all our problems, but I am firmly in the "our forwards aren't actually that bad" camp.

If you put JVR, Turner, Petty, Fritsch, Kossie, Melksham and co infront of a competent midfield who get it in fast and to their advantage they'd all be completely different players.

50 minutes ago, JTR said:

This.

Curnow was hopeless today and that was nothing to do with Curnow.

I'm sure it's an unpopular opinion who those who think a key forward will solve all our problems, but I am firmly in the "our forwards aren't actually that bad" camp.

If you put JVR, Turner, Petty, Fritsch, Kossie, Melksham and co infront of a competent midfield who get it in fast and to their advantage they'd all be completely different players.

Firstly, I agree with you. Second it feels like DL goes full circular about forward or forward delivery being the source of scoring once every 6 weeks. At the 3 week mark its inaccuracy.

4 hours ago, seventyfour said:

McStay has never kicked more than 28 goals in a season. He wouldn't have changed our fortunes.

He has had bad luck with injuries...

Let me just check Fullarton's stats in comparison.

5 minutes ago, MurDoc516 said:

He has had bad luck with injuries...

Let me just check Fullarton's stats in comparison.

why?

mcstay is a serious player for top teams

fullarton is...tall

1 minute ago, whatwhat say what said:

why?

mcstay is a serious player for top teams

fullarton is...tall

Because Fullarton is the only tall forward we've been able to bring in.

My main point is that I accept we are looking, but it's been an utter failure to not bring in anyone for 5 years.

1 hour ago, MurDoc516 said:

Because Fullarton is the only tall forward we've been able to bring in.

My main point is that I accept we are looking, but it's been an utter failure to not bring in anyone for 5 years.

in the last five years?

ben brown was in that time period as well as a couple of first round picks (van rooyen, jefferson), plus more speculative selections such as luker kentfield and aidan johnson

i'm still hopeful that jvr and el jefe can become an awesome double tall duo; hopeful, but not expectant given how lacklustre they have been this year

jvr was tracking very well prior to now, so i expect he can return to form

10 hours ago, JTR said:

This.

Curnow was hopeless today and that was nothing to do with Curnow.

I'm sure it's an unpopular opinion who those who think a key forward will solve all our problems, but I am firmly in the "our forwards aren't actually that bad" camp.

If you put JVR, Turner, Petty, Fritsch, Kossie, Melksham and co infront of a competent midfield who get it in fast and to their advantage they'd all be completely different players.

Exactly, does anyone think Caddy or Morris would be any good for us, they’d look like JVR, bereft of confidence. It’s why we can’t persist with the Butcher Trio in the middle together.

9 hours ago, MurDoc516 said:

He has had bad luck with injuries...

Let me just check Fullarton's stats in comparison.

McStay's contract with Pies is 5 years estimated at $600k per.

Fullerton signed with us for 2 years at I assume more like half that salary.

McStay has missed more than half the games through multiple injuries since joining and when playing has averaged just over 1 goal and 4 marks a game.

I would take Fullerton's non impact over 2 years over the cost and patchy impact of McStay at the Pies.

I suggest landing a quality proven key forward at end of 2025 is unlikely with us based on market and chips to get a deal. We have to my knowledge attempted to land Larkey, Mitch Lewis, Tex Walker and Waterman at different points in time and all stayed at their original clubs. I am sure there would have been others.

Our best path is as others have stated, bring in better ball users through the midfield via positional changes, trade (in and out) and draft. I hope we never see Oliver, Petracca and Viney at a centre bounce together again.

Edited June 21Jun 21 by Lil_red_fire_engine