POSTGAME: Rd 13 vs Collingwood

[Dr. Gonzo 24,448]

7 minutes ago, Doug Reemer said:

If you can’t sit through the hard times, you don’t deserve to jump on for the good ones.

In the hard times vs good times ledger I'd say most Melbourne supporters have plenty in credit.

[Older demon 2,799]

There are a lot of angry posters here tonight and I get that. I'm bitterly disappointed and angry at the substandard level of turnovers, broken tackles and easy misses. Neale Daniher emphasised being selfless, I saw none of that today.

We go short when under pressure yet wont hit up a short lead when it presents up forward and have a shot at goal. Viney burnt Max and his shot didn't even make the distance and that wasn't the only occasion. Collingwood showed us time and time again how to play team football.

When  players are out in space and it's turned over or smothered (Yes Fritch I am pointing the finger at you) it rebounds straight down the other end. When I look at the centre bounce and see Chandler, Langdon & Laurie as our half-forward line I know we are in strife.

There are 2 strapping kids at Casey who have more flair, daring and desire than Laurie & Chandler . How many times will it take to realise players of their diminutive size need a special skill be it pace, kicking or tackling, time to give someone else a go. Stop trying to turn backmen in to forwards, there is another key forward at Casey who was recruited as a forward why not play him?. For those who don't know who I am talking about I mean Tholstrup, Sestan and Jefferson. They only have to get 4 kicks and 3 handballs to be more effective than the incumbents.

Thank goodness for the bye so we don't have to put up with this rubbish next week.

[Earl Hood 6,142]

25 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

OTC tonight

Melb pressure 166 = low

Pies pressure 188 = high

There you go

And shots at goal? Melb’s most from the pocket, Pies pretty much directly in front

Summary: Dees slow, lazy footy, afraid to hit the corridor 

I am not convinced on this idea of the shots at goal. The Pies slotted a number of “hope for” goals from 50m and on the boundary but basically slotted everything they should have from 35m. They actually kicked to the left hand pocket a number of times to find a marking target who then converted. 

Alternatively we missed numerous shots from 35 that we should have slotted and zero that you might hope for. 
 

As bad as we were, if we kicked what we should have, we would have been much closer but not to say we could have won as the Pies would have just ramped up the pressure if it was close. They had us covered all day. 

[Dee*ceiving 1,724]

Since round 11 2022 we've had pressure piled on to us.  One thing after another and sadly more that one own goal.  Once cracks appear they either get fixed or widen slowly. 

May / Melksham 

The President debacle 

Extra curricular culture allegations 

Grundy disaster 

Oliver disaster 

Smith/Asada disaster 

Angus tragedy 

The media has attacked us in a fashion most other clubs wouldn't have to endure, with no protection from the league.  

I'm tired from it...it's hard trying to run through brick walls day after day. 

[Deebymistake 790]

19 minutes ago, Doug Reemer said:

Watching the replay you can’t even hear our “supporter” base boo maynard. 
 

We may genuinely get under 15k to the north game. 

Harsh.  I could definitely hear our "supporter" base boo Maynard as I watched the game live at the g surrounded by the cheer squad.  

[Hopeful Demon 1,518]

19 minutes ago, DemonWA said:

Lol. 

Bailey inherited an aging list and had Schawab trying to be assistant coach and list manager creating a [censored] show. 

Neeld era was just a culmination of poor recruitment and poor morale 

none of the above were impacted by fans excusing losses on demondland so I'm completely amused by you blokes thinking you being upset about the team is helping haha

Sober up Chad's!

I'm not suggesting that any of us are 'helping.' My point was that I would've assumed that we're well past the stage where we can accept [censored] performances like today if enough 'effort' was there.

And FWIW, I thought our effort today sucked. We look disinterested and worn out.

Edited June 10, 2024 by Hopeful Demon

[jumbo returns 6,741]

6 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

I am not convinced on this idea of the shots at goal. The Pies slotted a number of “hope for” goals from 50m and on the boundary but basically slotted everything they should have from 35m. They actually kicked to the left hand pocket a number of times to find a marking target who then converted. 

Alternatively we missed numerous shots from 35 that we should have slotted and zero that you might hope for. 
 

As bad as we were, if we kicked what we should have, we would have been much closer but not to say we could have won as the Pies would have just ramped up the pressure if it was close. They had us covered all day. 

The graph was pretty damning

[Dodos Demons 235]

Watched the Fox pre match and said to my kids 15 minutes from the bounce- what is wrong with the Melbourne players? They look flat and disinterested. Not saying I predicted the result but I have not seen them look so switched off and appearing as though they cbf’d. Could be a coincidence but not they looked very very flat in the pre match. The rest is history. Something seems to be way way off in the attitude and mental approach department. Worst month of footy for a long time.  

[Bring-Back-Powell 15,257]

Staggering that Goodwin put even the slightest positive spin on that game.

The Pies had an absurd amount of gun players out and only got 15 touches from far and away their best player. That quite frankly should’ve been a 6 goal win to us based on played availability but instead the game was over at 3 qtr time.

 

[WERRIDEE 5,576]

Great games from Gawn and Nibbler van Rooyen and Kossie were ok but the rest were disgracful. Clarry ? What are they going to do with him? I thought he was worst on ground today he is a shadow of his former self. I admit I was a bit harsh on saying he's destroyed the club, but I won't back down saying he's one of the main reasons we are where we are. He's lucky that Trac is injured otherwise I'd be calling him to be dropped again. I've had enough of the new Clarry time he pulls his finger out of his backside.

[layzie 34,339]

Have to give a lot of credit to Alex Neal-Bullen for his job on Daicos. Although I thought it robbed us of a system component he certainly did a great job. 

15 possessions a career low for Daicos?

[jayceebee31 768]

3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Pack your bags Simon, you're done..

While you're at it take Richo, Pert, Roffey, Chaplin, Williams, Stafford  and Tim Lamb with you on the way out.

 

I agree fully - Richardson, Williams Roffeyand maybe Pert should resign immediately.A damn disgrace 

[jane02 3,778]

I’m totally shattered. I can’t even imagine how the rest of the season is going to pan out. 

[At Least I Saw a Flag 5,315]

Did someone say KFC?

[Lexinator 1,773]

12 minutes ago, layzie said:

Have to give a lot of credit to Alex Neal-Bullen for his job on Daicos. Although I thought it robbed us of a system component he certainly did a great job. 

15 possessions a career low for Daicos?

ANB has been one the better players this year, one of if not his best seasons.

[Doug Reemer 1,208]

35 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

In the hard times vs good times ledger I'd say most Melbourne supporters have plenty in credit.

I’d suggest when the hard times come, not many show up.

[Swooper1987 3,322]

1 minute ago, Lexinator said:

ANB has been one the better players this year, one of if not his best seasons.

Top 3 in the Bluey I reckon, behind Gawn and Trac, and quite possibly ahead of Trac.

[Jjrogan 1,448]

5 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

Great games from Gawn and Nibbler van Rooyen and Kossie were ok but the rest were disgracful. Clarry ? What are they going to do with him? I thought he was worst on ground today he is a shadow of his former self. I admit I was a bit harsh on saying he's destroyed the club, but I won't back down saying he's one of the main reasons we are where we are. He's lucky that Trac is injured otherwise I'd be calling him to be dropped again. I've had enough of the new Clarry time he pulls his finger out of his backside.

The problem is in this new game style he and Viney are often the player on the end of a handball receive.     Somehow Goodwin has constructed a game plan that plays directly into the most glaring weakness of his midfield.   It's quite remarkable really.

Contested Clarry was actually ok today and he's getting his fitness back. As a fix, he simply calls for handball receives too much when he's in terrible positions.  Either he's doing it on his own, or his coach is instructing him to.   It's gotta stop. 

[Earl Hood 6,142]

5 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

Great games from Gawn and Nibbler van Rooyen and Kossie were ok but the rest were disgracful. Clarry ? What are they going to do with him? I thought he was worst on ground today he is a shadow of his former self. I admit I was a bit harsh on saying he's destroyed the club, but I won't back down saying he's one of the main reasons we are where we are. He's lucky that Trac is injured otherwise I'd be calling him to be dropped again. I've had enough of the new Clarry time he pulls his finger out of his backside.

It’s odd. Watching Clarrie today he was getting possessions but he is just immediately handballing or kicking blindly, mostly to our disadvantage. I understand someone having a poor preseason would be short of a gallop, not getting to contests etc. Today he was getting his hands on it but his decision making, poise, extraordinary peripheral vision that once allowed him to fire out a handball to a target in heavy traffic, has evaporated! 

I always thought for a midfielder, that ability to work in heavy traffic was a skill you don’t loose overnight, even if you lack fitness or loose a yard in pace. 

[Emerald 1,744]

Fritsch needs to stop smiling when Melbourne's losing and after he kicks points. It's not the demeanour of someone who wants to win.

[Doug Reemer 1,208]

44 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

When were they? Watching on tv from a far during lockdown? Was great we finally won one, but I remember it with sadness with my dad crying on the phone as he battled through cancer. After decades attending nearly every MCG game together we didn't even get to enjoy the flag. It was horrible.

We'll have to be content with tat for another fifty years it seems. I'm middle aged and will likely never get to watch a demon flag at the MCG. The club brings me nothing but misery. I don't know why I keep supporting so hard at this point.

I’m sorry about your dad. Yeah we all watched on TV (those who lived in Victoria and were locked in by Dictator Dan).

AFL clubs are like family. You don’t get to pick them, like your friends.

I was saying to a mate on the phone post game. We should have known that even when Melb were having their best era of 50+ years they’d still manage to torture us. It won’t stop me going and suffering through though.

[Lexinator 1,773]

12 minutes ago, jane02 said:

I’m totally shattered. I can’t even imagine how the rest of the season is going to pan out. 

https://giphy.com/clips/bad-badluck-crystallball-nbcYPkfxa7pScA1A1i

 

[Doug Reemer 1,208]

38 minutes ago, Older demon said:

For those who don't know who I am talking about I mean Tholstrup, Sestan and Jefferson. They only have to get 4 kicks and 3 handballs to be more effective than the incumbents.

I know his skills aren’t great but neither were Hunts.

AMW has pace. Have a look at him. He may be better in an better standard.

[layzie 34,339]

2 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

Football hasn’t been the same for me since last year’s finals and it probably won’t ever be again. 
Today has just about killed the last bit of hope I had for the season. 
Time to take a break from football. 

I hear ya. That finals series changed a lot of how I view the game now. I don't get triggered by any stupid AFL decisions anymore because seeing them not uphold their own rules was the final straw. I was absolutely spent  as soon as that season ended, I had spent nearly every week of the season hell bent on seeing that illusive flag at the G, I became obsessed and it was exhausting. I didn't want to know about footy for months, as a matter of fact the new season came way too soon, I could have gone another few months without it. I'd also had some personal news that I'm still currently trying to work through that put things into perspective. 

Because of all of this I changed my attitude towards our fortunes. I lowered the expectations and tried to get back to just enjoying the game for what it is. It hasn't been easy, but I don't regret this. I also decided that 21 was likely 'the one' and to just be eternally grateful for what I was able to see. 

We as fans got bashed around last year. None of this is meant to be a sympathy story but I have certainly changed as a result of it.

[Tracca 862]

2 hours ago, Jjrogan said:

Just my weekly post gently asking that the one player who hasn't had an ineffective disposal in 2 weeks be given a go more around the ball. Our mids are not just butchers they can't 'solve the puzzle' of where or to whom the next possession should go. At one point I saw Oliver remonstrating with him about his decision making and disposal which was peak irony. 

I saw that too cause he wouldn't pass to him