POSTGAME: Rd 09 vs Carlton

[DeeSpencer 24,683]

Awful start, incredible grit to get back in it.

Given Carlton had more talent in several aspects of the ground it’s a huge credit to the coaches and players.

The forward line has issues but also a path to solutions and we saw some of them at times. A whole lot of Tracc, but also some the ball movement improvements even in wet and high pressure.

Midfield, unfortunately I’m less sure of the answers but I like that we’ve tried some things. Huge game from Nibbler 

[Ben 222]

20 minutes ago, DubDee said:

The Blues will know deep down we are far better and they fluked that 

This reminds me of Mayzie famously saying we should've smoked the Pies in the 2023 QF.

I wish we could win games we should win, rather than lose games we should win.

[Gawndy the Great 9,008]

11 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

Same as last year, no improvement whatsoever.

Joke AFL.

They couldn’t pull that last bit of vision off the live feed quick enough. Have watched in replay and it wasn’t clear enough to recall IMO.

[Trisul 664]

'Happy enough' with the result given the first quarter.  The mens department will file this one under to be continued, and our forward options will be significantly enhanced come finals.    

[Demonland 70,238]

I hate expected score but I appreciate that it makes others feel better.

 

[Adam The God 29,298]

16 minutes ago, Doug Reemer said:

I’ll say it again. 
 

“Hey @Binmans PA  remember when you so arrogantly shut me down after the Richmond game, when I said we were belted in the stoppages and out of the middle.”

Remember how I said that would bite us in the [censored] against Carlton? Wheres your smug reply to this now?”

I thought we were very ordinary at centre stoppage tonight, but our whole stoppage game against Richmond was passable.

We lost stoppage tonight by -2. 

The biggest problem tonight was when we lost stoppage, what we allowed their mids to do. The lack of post clearance pressure a few times was very noticeable.

For example, the first centre clearance of the last quarter that led to a goal, we allowed Cripps to win it out the front of the stoppage, then Clarry and others failed to track Cripps to CHF, where he won the next ground ball, and kicked inside 50.

Now, our defenders should have killed that next ball out, but the damage was down from the poor concession of clearance.

I don't think we allowed Richmond a single out the front of stoppage clearance.

And I don't recall being smug, but okay.

[The Stigga 1,076]

23 minutes ago, layzie said:

Please tell me no more Thurs games or 5 day breaks for a very long time.

Or night games, over them, such a late night...

[leave it to deever 17,445]

15 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Nothing for the boys to be ashamed of as a result of that last quarter and their persistence in the third quarter beforehand. We know what happened, we know how it happened. 

True but the 61 to 41 inside fifties for us has a tired same old Dees feel about it.

Once again inaccurate kicking against Carlton cost us a game

That goal that Kozzie missed was strange. Running into an open goal he looked away from it and then kicked. No wonder.

The blues did well to flood our fwd line most of the night I guess.

And our midfield allowed theirs to bomb it into theirs asap.

I guess credit due to the fightback. It's hard to credit a team that doesn't score at all in the first quarter though.

We started like that in three of our last four games. I know we finish strong but.....

Something is broken with those beginnings.

[binman 41,923]

38 minutes ago, Ollie fan said:

Anyone who bags the team after that should be shot! Unbelievable effort!!

Too right.

I could not be prouder of the players and my club.

[layzie 32,745]

The cooling off is beginning and I do think our overall game is in good shape. Most things are in order and were in order tonight apart from midfield assertion. 

I think this is nothing but a 'forget' game and we'll be going places this year. 

[roy11 3,654]

3 minutes ago, Trisul said:

'Happy enough' with the result given the first quarter.  The mens department will file this one under to be continued, and our forward options will be significantly enhanced come finals.    

Wasn't just the first quarter - took us 40 minutes to score!

[leave it to deever 17,445]

2 minutes ago, Binmans PA said:

I thought we were very ordinary at centre stoppage tonight, but our whole stoppage game against Richmond was passable.

We lost stoppage tonight by -2. 

The biggest problem tonight was when we lost stoppage, what we allowed their mids to do. The lack of post clearance pressure a few times was very noticeable.

For example, the first centre clearance of the last quarter that led to a goal, we allowed Cripps to win it out the front of the stoppage, then Clarry and others failed to track Cripps to CHF, where he won the next ground ball, and kicked inside 50.

Now, our defenders should have killed that next ball out, but the damage was down from the poor concession of clearance.

I don't think we allowed Richmond a single out the front of stoppage clearance.

And I don't recall being smug, but okay.

And we lost centre clearances by four. An issue that was killing us till the last.

I know we had Tracca fwd but when the blues did win a cc it resulted in a goal more often than our wins.

 

 

 

 

 

[binman 41,923]

17 minutes ago, SPC said:

It did. So did Pagans Paddock. Move with the times or be left behind. Starting offence from defence is not viable anymore. 

Um. Really?

Best tell pies to give their flag back 

[Demon17 5,038]

30 minutes ago, BDA said:

6-3 after a tough opening fixture is a very good position to be in. Still well in the hunt for top 4.

lets write off this loss and move on.

go dees

I was expecting to win one of cats or blues. 6 -3 so move on as you say.

Proud of this team and we had a psychological win over blues tonight that will stand us well in September. Still have forward woes though.

But my effort on ladder predictor has us 3rd after round 15 and carlscum 9th

[DubDee 24,300]

6 minutes ago, Ben said:

This reminds me of Mayzie famously saying we should've smoked the Pies in the 2023 QF.

I wish we could win games we should win, rather than lose games we should win.

we do, like last week

Its disappointing but in the light of day we’ll be fine

[ElDiablo14 4,905]

19 minutes ago, Demon Dynasty said:

They aren't ordinary at CBs.  They've beaten us in this phase the last few times we've played them.

You have to ask why Goodwin played ANB in the middle for most of the 2nd half?  Think he might've had one clearance towards the end and a few involvements but that's about it.

And instead left Kozzy to rot at HF when the opposite was surely more plausible.

The decision to leave Max off for at least 10 minutes after going three quick goals down was astonishing.  JVR was smacked up and outta sorts during his stint during this period which allowed the Blues to continue on their merry way out of the middle.

The fact that neither of our KFs fired speaks volumes for me. 

And i'm not including Disco here.  He's more like a third tall behind Petty & JVR and a junior in terms of experience in our forward line.

Game on the line and neither of them were able to stick their hand up and settle us down on the scoreboard early.

Took Max to put a few serious leads in in the second half and then managed to kick a big bomb from 50.

That's a bit unfair. There was one chop of the arm on Petty in the early stages of the 1st qt. Who knows what happens if we kick that goal?

First 10 minutes of the 1st were a good contest by the Dees, just panicked after being 3 goals down.

[layzie 32,745]

I think Petracca might be a champion 

[Gawndy the Great 9,008]

When we were hungry in that last 10 mins it reminded me how we can play and how we played in 2021. 

To me that is the bar. I barely see it. The first 2 quarters against the Swans was the same and that’s it.  Nobody can stop us when we play with that brutality. So where is it?  

[demon3165 2,566]

1 minute ago, layzie said:

The cooling off is beginning and I do think our overall game is in good shape. Most things are in order and were in order tonight apart from midfield assertion. 

I think this is nothing but a 'forget' game and we'll be going places this year. 

Have to disagree there we need pace and skill in the midfield we cannot continue to be one paced and you know my thoughts about the forward line.

[DubDee 24,300]

3 minutes ago, roy11 said:

Wasn't just the first quarter - took us 40 minutes to score!

any chance we thought it was a 8:10 start time?

[demon3165 2,566]

1 minute ago, layzie said:

I think Petracca might be a champion 

To early to tell......

[Dr. Gonzo 23,683]

42 minutes ago, BDA said:

trac was immense up forward great game from him.

but why did we start so poorly?

carlton were gone in the last. game was there for us but we left too much to do because of that start. very disappointing

and that umpire call for dangerous tackle in the last was the worst decision i've seen in a long time. pathetic call.

 

The goals at the start of the 3rd (Curnow) and the 4th (Hewett) along with the misses of Fritsch, Petty, Koz and Chandler and the non goal from the sling tackle free against JVR - all were just as costly as the 1st quarter.

[DubDee 24,300]

1 minute ago, layzie said:

I think Petracca might be a champion 

any time he is tagged hard from now, just send him fwd. He kicked half our goals. A beast

[Mel Bourne 4,389]

32 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Do you think the second quarter (score wise basically even) was a marked improvement in “effort”? 

I don’t. The game looked basically the same to me, we just found ways to score.

I’m really proud of the effort tonight and back this team all the friggin’ way, but I just can’t perform the mental gymnastics required to view that first quarter as anything but a textbook shellacking. 

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,521]

12 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

They couldn’t pull that last bit of vision off the live feed quick enough. Have watched in replay and it wasn’t clear enough to recall IMO.

Where is the technology improvement? Truck all has been done from AFL house Truck all!

Nothing has been learnt from the AFL since last years debacle.

Instead of investing a few million on ball chip technology and trial it in the AFLW over the past summer, they still have the HD camera technology to operate finger tip decisions.

It's 💩🏘 form from them.

Edited May 9 by YesitwasaWin4theAges