I like Laurie, give him a bit more time I think he’ll be very decent. Had a better game than Woey I thought and only got half a game too!

Lay off the kid, he’s a kid, he didn’t get an extension for nothing have a bit of faith. 

Edited August 23, 20241 yr by Young Angus

1 hour ago, picket fence said:

Kynan Brown, AMW !!

Sorry I meant during the draft we took him. I know it's a moot point today, just wondering.

Showed more than many others last night. He's been treated poorly by both coaching staff and fans. 

Should have played the entire 2nd half of the year with our midfield out.

He was not the only player to turn it over kicking to Petty, who consistently runs to the wrong places and is continually out of sync with the rest of the team. Being able to take a contested mark does not make you a forward. 

Everywhere you look this coaching staff has players out of position, square peg round hole stuff.

Totally Maddening 

We have bigger problems.

10 hours ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Does anyone remember what better players we could've picked instead of Laurie?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_AFL_draft

It wasn't a deep draft and there's not a lot of talent taken after him. 

McCreery probably the pick of them.

10 hours ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Does anyone remember what better players we could've picked instead of Laurie?

It’s not the drafting.  He had skills and evasive qualities in his under 18s year and fair call by JT.  Tough draft year 2020 due to limited games.   

It’s his extension that was the issue.  Showed zero.  He looks to have lost pace.  Doesn’t work hard defensively to get back.  Kicking is okay but not anywhere near a strength.  Lacks the tools at AFL level 

Footnote …His turnover last night was horrible … when running free with 3 free demons players , he kicked it straight to Pies player (they went back up the field to kick a goal) !! 

Underwhelming news

10 hours ago, DubDee said:

Hey mate, what does caaaryyst mean?

seen it a lot recently. like Cast? Krypt?

Maybe Mr Fence doesn’t want to be labelled a blasphemist.  

There is no way Laurie is quick enough. Small players almost always need either elite pace off the mark and/or high top end speed. There is only a handful of players that are top liners without those traits (Sheezel, Tim Kelly, ANB, Liam Baker) and Laurie is not as tough or skilled as those players.

10 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_AFL_draft

It wasn't a deep draft and there's not a lot of talent taken after him. 

McCreery probably the pick of them.

1. We sold our future pick to get an extra pick in that draft.

2. We re-contracted Laurie before the season, which was totally unnecessary.

2 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

We sold our future pick to get an extra pick in that draft.

We had every intention of using that pick on Max Holmes, but were gazumped by Geelong.

5 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

We had every intention of using that pick on Max Holmes, but were gazumped by Geelong.

Shame we weren’t after Gulden.

6 minutes ago, DeeZone said:

Shame we weren’t after Gulden.

Gulden was a swans academy player. He wasn’t going anywhere else. 

2 hours ago, BDA said:

We have bigger problems.

Laurie, unfortunately for him, is the reflection of our poor recruiting and list management of late.

A NQR player that the club expects to become the second coming of ANB.

 

3 hours ago, fr_ap said:

Showed more than many others last night. He's been treated poorly by both coaching staff and fans. 

Should have played the entire 2nd half of the year with our midfield out.

He was not the only player to turn it over kicking to Petty, who consistently runs to the wrong places and is continually out of sync with the rest of the team. Being able to take a contested mark does not make you a forward. 

Everywhere you look this coaching staff has players out of position, square peg round hole stuff.

Totally Maddening 

Showed more intent and willingness then say Bayley Fritsch who could not look more disinterested and lazy as the night went on.

34 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

1. We sold our future pick to get an extra pick in that draft.

2. We re-contracted Laurie before the season, which was totally unnecessary.

‘Sold our future’ what a wild statement

Laurie had only 26% TOG and ended the night 7 disposals, 5 contested, 4 clearances, 3 tackles and going disposal efficiency of 71% in the pouring rain.

He's not the problem most think he is, particularly as a depth player.

He also scored top 5 for speed in attack showing he's got good repeat efforts. If he spent more than 5 minutes in the team I suspect his defensive running patterns and positioning would improve.

I'll drop it for now as most don't want to hear it and seem to have made up their mind about him after last year.

He's earned his spot on the list as a depth player.

7 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

‘Sold our future’ what a wild statement

Read it again.

We traded our 2021 pick for a pick in 2020.

4 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

Read it again.

We traded our 2021 pick for a pick in 2020.

We effectively traded pick 20 in the 2021 draft for pick 22 in the 2020 draft.

Our future is ruined

35 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

We effectively traded pick 20 in the 2021 draft for pick 22 in the 2020 draft.

Our future is ruined

We ended up getting that pick back and drafting JVR anyway… the horror…

4 minutes ago, demoncat said:

We ended up getting that pick back and drafting JVR anyway… the horror…

For another future first round pick. JVR wasn’t free. 

Just now, Fat Tony said:

For another future first round pick. JVR wasn’t free. 

You’re right - but if I remember correctly that would have been pick 14 or 15 the next year  

Which coincidentally we got in the Jackson trade anyway thanks to Freo finishing just below us 

Trading future picks is fine when you’re in the window and finishing higher up the ladder, which we’ve done for the better part of four years now

Having said that I reckon we need to keep our 2025 pick unless it somehow can net us a top 15 pick this year - no guarantees we’re not in for another rough year…

5 minutes ago, demoncat said:

You’re right - but if I remember correctly that would have been pick 14 or 15 the next year  

Which coincidentally we got in the Jackson trade anyway thanks to Freo finishing just below us 

Trading future picks is fine when you’re in the window and finishing higher up the ladder, which we’ve done for the better part of four years now

Having said that I reckon we need to keep our 2025 pick unless it somehow can net us a top 15 pick this year - no guarantees we’re not in for another rough year…

You pay a steep price to do it and it worked with Kossie because we selected so well. But the other similar trades have been costly (although we have still selected well with JVR and Bowey and so they haven't ended up so bad). I would prefer we go the other way and trade our picks into the future (and earn the steep interest rate) but the people in power have too much career risk and this conflicts with the long-term interests of the club.

Obviously the trade into the 2020 draft would have also been a spectacular win had we netted Bowey and Holmes.

Not a fan but thought he played ok for half a game.

2 hours ago, Demonstone said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_AFL_draft

It wasn't a deep draft and there's not a lot of talent taken after him. 

McCreery probably the pick of them.

Looking back, not a brilliant draft overall.

As for the other comments, he was better last night in the game.  1 terrible turnover but he composure seemed better than in previous games.

If you in and out of the team its harder to really settle mentally as when you play you also thinking if you screw up your out the next week.  That pressure often results in actions and decisions that is not how a player would normally play.  When you have certainty in your place, you see players develop a lot faster has they'll take risks and put the team before themselves. 

He should have more regular game time post Kings' birthday to develop at the top level.