Nick maybe living in a bubble...I've heard different from other people.

I'm interested in the views of our Tasmanian supporters on this site.

Where does this sit?

16 minutes ago, rjay said:

Nick maybe living in a bubble...I've heard different from other people.

I'm interested in the views of our Tasmanian supporters on this site.

Where does this sit?

a lot lot less than nick says

most surveys i've seen are on very small numbers (e.g. 500) and probably quite unreliable for many reasons. however it is probably very tight as to what the public think

You can feel where this is heading and the AFL need to be careful that it doesn't become the scapegoat.

AFL needs to make a clear statement re-confirming its position.

Otherwise....

Labor and Liberals back the stadium as part of their election promises. No party gets a majority but Labor puts together a co-alition that has a vague commitment to the stadium like "We're committed to the build when we've dealt with immediate economic priorities." Meanwhile we implore the AFL to allow a team using the existing facilities which we are prepared to spend $100M upgrading.

The spin will win as usual but who is the better spinner

And then there's the "cash" alternative. $10M to each club might change the approach by each club.

Edited June 7Jun 7 by Diamond_Jim

i think the afl have set a barrier too high to jump over

wouldn't need to be too much of a cynic to think this has been set up (by afl) to fail

1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

i think the afl have set a barrier too high to jump over

wouldn't need to be too much of a cynic to think this has been set up (by afl) to fail

They have done well for once.

feel for the Tasmanians. there's no reason why they shouldn't have a Tassy based team

on the brightside, i'm glad the draft won't be compromised.

Edited June 7Jun 7 by BDA

On 06/06/2025 at 15:53, rjay said:

Nick maybe living in a bubble...I've heard different from other people.

I'm interested in the views of our Tasmanian supporters on this site.

Where does this sit?

People who like footy want the stadium and people who don’t like it, don’t want it. 🤷‍♂️ I highly doubt Nick Riewoldt would rub shoulders with too many anti-footy commoners given his background.

Most of the friction is around the location and the cost. The conversation gets swamped by highly emotive but low in sense arguments like health budgets etc, when the cost to build equates to about 3 months of health budget.

It’s also hard to get sensible economic numbers on it because the planning council intentionally hired anti-stadium analysis on it - that’s why the government tried to bypass it, and would have succeeded if the (pro-stadium) opposition hadn’t just skittled them for unrelated reasons.

Another part of the aggravation is the reason the cost is so high is because of the AFL’s requirement for a roof, which as far as I can tell is based on some suit at HQ going to Bellerive Oval once and being really cold, rather than any kind of analysis on weather patterns in Hobart, because it rains here less than any other city where AFL is played other than Adelaide. This is causing the cricket bodies to say the current design is unsuitable for cricket, which is muddying the economic waters further. I went to the Hobart Hurricanes cup winning match at Bellerive and it was one of my favourite sporting experiences ever. If it had been at a new stadium with double the crowd, it would have been amazing. And anyone who’s been to Marvel Stadium in the middle of winter knows the roof might keep the rain away but it doesn’t do much for the cold.

Anyway, this is the one opportunity we’re going to get to bring AFL to Tasmania full time, and it’s about to be blown by a hostile AFL and an incompetent government. Cool.

2 hours ago, Nasher said:

People who like footy want the stadium and people who don’t like it, don’t want it. 🤷‍♂️ I highly doubt Nick Riewoldt would rub shoulders with too many anti-footy commoners given his background.

Most of the friction is around the location and the cost. The conversation gets swamped by highly emotive but low in sense arguments like health budgets etc, when the cost to build equates to about 3 months of health budget.

It’s also hard to get sensible economic numbers on it because the planning council intentionally hired anti-stadium analysis on it - that’s why the government tried to bypass it, and would have succeeded if the (pro-stadium) opposition hadn’t just skittled them for unrelated reasons.

Another part of the aggravation is the reason the cost is so high is because of the AFL’s requirement for a roof, which as far as I can tell is based on some suit at HQ going to Bellerive Oval once and being really cold, rather than any kind of analysis on weather patterns in Hobart, because it rains here less than any other city where AFL is played other than Adelaide. This is causing the cricket bodies to say the current design is unsuitable for cricket, which is muddying the economic waters further. I went to the Hobart Hurricanes cup winning match at Bellerive and it was one of my favourite sporting experiences ever. If it had been at a new stadium with double the crowd, it would have been amazing. And anyone who’s been to Marvel Stadium in the middle of winter knows the roof might keep the rain away but it doesn’t do much for the cold.

Anyway, this is the one opportunity we’re going to get to bring AFL to Tasmania full time, and it’s about to be blown by a hostile AFL and an incompetent government. Cool.

Thanks 'Nasher', much appreciated.

A pity the AFL seem so inflexible yet it's ok for GWS & GCS to play on what are to all intents and purposes suburban grounds.

2 hours ago, Nasher said:

Another part of the aggravation is the reason the cost is so high is because of the AFL’s requirement for a roof, which as far as I can tell is based on some suit at HQ going to Bellerive Oval once and being really cold, rather than any kind of analysis on weather patterns in Hobart, because it rains here less than any other city where AFL is played other than Adelaide. This is causing the cricket bodies to say the current design is unsuitable for cricket, which is muddying the economic waters further. I went to the Hobart Hurricanes cup winning match at Bellerive and it was one of my favourite sporting experiences ever. If it had been at a new stadium with double the crowd, it would have been amazing. And anyone who’s been to Marvel Stadium in the middle of winter knows the roof might keep the rain away but it doesn’t do much for the cold.

Anyway, this is the one opportunity we’re going to get to bring AFL to Tasmania full time, and it’s about to be blown by a hostile AFL and an incompetent government. Cool.

in fairness, the current design IS unsuitable for cricket

the docklands carpark is one of the worst places to watch live sport i've ever been to; utterly soulless

i wonder when head office will need to make a call as to whether the team can continue to march on as it stands

8 minutes ago, rjay said:

Thanks 'Nasher', much appreciated.

A pity the AFL seem so inflexible yet it's ok for GWS & GCS to play on what are to all intents and purposes suburban grounds.

The construction work at the ground in Ballarat must be to put a roof on it I guess.

meanwhile, are richard and martin flanagan the best writing brothers oztraya has ever had? i can't think of two related people who are so eloquent with their words

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/i-love-tassie-footy-and-we-need-a-team-but-the-afl-s-stadium-ultimatum-takes-a-special-kind-of-arrogance-20250609-p5m5x8.html

It was a stupid idea in the first place and will thin the talent pool.

Don't build a house on sand

sounds like they may have some good young fellas?