TRAINING: Monday 11th March 2024

[Demons1858 1,716]

2 hours ago, kev martin said:

I believe McAdam had a hammy problem a few weeks ago, just after the calf came good, he had always been running short distances in his individual program at the trainings. For him to be absent, was unusual. 

AFL indicated McAdam has nerve issues effecting hamstring and will train away from main group as Mon Bon and titan_uranus mentioned.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1085531/hamstring-issue-to-further-delay-melbourne-demons-shane-mcadam-season-start

Jed Adams is ready to go if he gets a call up.

Strange that someone with an injury like McAdam would be training / doing rehab away from the club when presumably most of the medical or physio staff spend good parts of their work week at the club. Something doesn't feel right

[kev martin 9,514]

14 minutes ago, Demons1858 said:

Strange that someone with an injury like McAdam would be training / doing rehab away from the club when presumably most of the medical or physio staff spend good parts of their work week at the club. Something doesn't feel right

When I have seen McAdam previously in rehab, he doesn't seem happy. He runs without contentment or intensity. Perhaps it is getting to him. Hope we are wrong and missing from the main group and the other rehabbers is genuine. 

I can imagine being on the couch  or in a yoga position (stretching), for a couple of weeks so the 'nerve' issue causing hammy distress resolves. 

Training away for the group? 

Does seem fishy.

We need his skill base and him in full training mode.

Edited March 11 by kev martin

[picket fence 16,702]

3 hours ago, kev martin said:

I believe McAdam had a hammy problem a few weeks ago, just after the calf came good, he had always been running short distances in his individual program at the trainings. For him to be absent, was unusual. 

AFL indicated McAdam has nerve issues effecting hamstring and will train away from main group as Mon Bon and titan_uranus mentioned.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1085531/hamstring-issue-to-further-delay-melbourne-demons-shane-mcadam-season-start

Jed Adams is ready to go if he gets a call up.

Yes, i was extremely impreesed with Jed Adams as per my Report last week!

[Kick_It_To_Pickett 3,291]

4 hours ago, Nascent said:

Unpopular opinion on here it seems but I hope they persist with Laurie, at least for a few more games. Kid has skill, is one of our best by hands and when he gets his confidence up he should sharpen up those kicking skills and help our delivery inside forward 50.

In my view he appears to be a confidence player and doesn't believe he belongs yet. Doesn't help when langdon runs across his kicking line, smothering the kick and then scolds him for it, nor would it help when he was clearly ignored by Salem while he was 20 metres in the clear inside 50. Out of the 6 games he's played he's been sub or subbed out 5 times.

He will want to start showing some serious improvement however and I don't think a forward line can include all of Him, Chandler, Anb, Pickett and Spargo with McAdam to come. Up to him to start taking these chances otherwise he'll be in strife come the end of the year. 

 

Another Laurie apologist…go watch his practice match against Carlton. Made several basic skill errors in a pratice game in front of 3,000 ppl. He is lost on the big stage and executes horribly under pressure. He is not AFL standard. Lacks height and size and has little physically to make up for it, unlike a Caleb Daniel. He won’t make it. He deserves nothing. The fact he was subbed so early shows that the coaching staff knew he was a complete liability 

[Demons1858 1,716]

1 hour ago, kev martin said:

When I have seen McAdam previously in rehab, he doesn't seem happy. He runs without contentment or intensity. Perhaps it is getting to him. Hope we are wrong and missing from the main group and the other rehabbers is genuine. 

I can imagine being on the couch  or in a yoga position (stretching), for a couple of weeks so the 'nerve' issue causing hammy distress resolves. 

Training away for the group? 

Does seem fishy.

We need his skill base and him in full training mode.

Noting that Rucci from SA reported differences with Adelaide's fitness staff during the trade period

Edited March 11 by Demons1858

[Nascent 8,652]

1 hour ago, Demons1858 said:

Strange that someone with an injury like McAdam would be training / doing rehab away from the club when presumably most of the medical or physio staff spend good parts of their work week at the club. Something doesn't feel right

I interpreted that he was doing rehab with the club, just away from the main training group at goschs/Casey...

[Nascent 8,652]

16 minutes ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

Another Laurie apologist…go watch his practice match against Carlton. Made several basic skill errors in a pratice game in front of 3,000 ppl. He is lost on the big stage and executes horribly under pressure. He is not AFL standard. Lacks height and size and has little physically to make up for it, unlike a Caleb Daniel. He won’t make it. He deserves nothing. The fact he was subbed so early shows that the coaching staff knew he was a complete liability 

I'm just a fan that wants their young kids to do well and not [censored] on them as an easy scapegoat. I already said he needs to improve or he'll be off the list come the end of the year. 

I've watched plenty of his games last year and including the Carlton game. There's enough to work with for him to make it at afl level in my view but he's certainly up against it. You don't rate him at all and thats fine, let's leave it at that.

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4 minutes ago, Demons1858 said:

Noting that Rucci from SA reported differences with Adelaide's fitness staff during the trade period

My reading of that AFL article is simply that McAdam won't be joining main training.

Yes, the article does say he "will complete a training block away from the main group" but the article also later says "The South Australian has spent most of the pre-season training away from the main group."

Is it any different from the usual rehab? Most likely he will be in the gym/pool/physio until the nerve issue has settled and he can start running again. 

[Mel Bourne 4,392]

25 minutes ago, Demons1858 said:

Noting that Rucci from SA reported differences with Adelaide's fitness staff during the trade period

Let’s not make assumptions (that can quickly become hastily -formed theories) based on things we don’t really know about. 

If he’s despondent for any reason, it might just be because he’s frustrated with his body and wants to get on the ground. 
 

 

Edited March 11 by Mel Bourne

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,590]

8 hours ago, DeeZone said:

The Colt is certainly made of the right stuff, wrestling JV after a heavy training session, love it.!!

Bring him in, surely a better option than Laurie.

Doesn't sound good regarding McAdam, hope he gets it right and doesn't rush it to get back.

Edited March 11 by YesitwasaWin4theAges

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3 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Lot of love for Fullarton

Beauty is by comparison but I do wonder how he will fare at AFL level

19 games in five years for Brisbane (12 were in 2021)

Good luck to the guy.

How was he at Brisbane VFL level?

Kicked 30.22 at VFL level last year in 18 games. 

[Roger Mellie 3,883]

Hey @kev martin, when you say Jefferson looked lost in match sim, was he playing as a forward or defender?

Thanks

[58er 6,000]

18 hours ago, kev martin said:

Woey was looking good, nothing extra from coaches.

We didn't take it on through the middle. 

They want them to be quicker and not make errors.

They want the smalls to stand and/or break through tackles.

They are working on Petty's fitness.

Going very slow with Hunter.

Not bringing K.Brown in till he is sure of his role.

Viney and Colt have a thing.

Goody loves Clarry.

McQualter works the recovery session.

They are loading.

Stafford was micro managing.

 

Staffo minding or managing himself. Can’t manage a forward line now a ruck problem. 

Rarely was a Coaching group outclassed as much as Goody etc last week. 

Grundy Lever JVR no blind side team changes during game and Maxie just got tired and tirederer!!! In the Sydney humidity. JVR needs to be ticked at times if not getting ball and also needs to lead not just jump from behind on that small ground. 

[58er 6,000]

Just now, 58er said:

Staffo minding or managing himself. Can’t manage a forward line now a ruck problem. 

Rarely was a Coaching group outclassed as much as Goody etc last week. 

Grundy Lever JVR no blind side team changes during game and Maxie just got tired and tirederer!!! In the Sydney humidity. JVR needs to be ticked at times if not getting ball and also needs to lead not just jump from behind on that small ground. 

Needs to be rucked ( JVR) to get him into the game. Plenty of upside in the team from last week. But speed needs to be used on the G. 

[58er 6,000]

18 hours ago, kev martin said:

They didn't move Into their lines.

As a guess, it will be Salem to replace Bowser.

No no no need him in the middle. Hore or woe best bets. 

[58er 6,000]

17 hours ago, Young Angus said:

Colt sounds very interesting...when do we think he might be ready for a run?  Pretty keen to see him out there I reckon he'd add something by the sound of it.

Really just want McAdam available, he was meant to help fix all this nonsense in the forward line and where is he?  Anyone know anything about his current situation and when he might be back?

Read our website article there.

i am not telling so go to our website!!!  

D/L is not the B end for club news. How many times do D/Lers need to be told! 

[MrFreeze 1,858]

9 hours ago, 12345_54321 said:

Kicked 30.22 at VFL level last year in 18 games. 

Reading comments from Brisbane supporters, they did not stress about this guy leaving. Seemed like a not quite right player - similar to Schache, but he has not had much of a chance at the upper level at this point. 

[58er 6,000]

15 hours ago, Roost it far said:

Achilles is cooked

You are not supposed to guess or post non facts suggesting issues on this site without evidence RIF especially as you are not even in The vicinity of the players. Ie another area of AUS. 
Fact or your opinion from afar RIF?. 

[Roost it far 7,427]

1 minute ago, 58er said:

You are not supposed to guess or post non facts suggesting issues on this site without evidence RIF especially as you are not even in The vicinity of the players. Ie another area of AUS. 
Fact or your opinion from afar RIF?. 

Fairly well known he has issues with his Achilles 

[dee-tox 4,835]

19 hours ago, Demon Dynasty said:

 

Gadzooks!  Will we ever fix this!??

Simon should allocate at least one entire training session every week to ensure we are NOT doing this.

Even if it means moving Stafford aside and taking over the whole session.

Isn't the nature of modern footy that forward lines are crowded?

[58er 6,000]

11 hours ago, kev martin said:

When I have seen McAdam previously in rehab, he doesn't seem happy. He runs without contentment or intensity. Perhaps it is getting to him. Hope we are wrong and missing from the main group and the other rehabbers is genuine. 

I can imagine being on the couch  or in a yoga position (stretching), for a couple of weeks so the 'nerve' issue causing hammy distress resolves. 

Training away for the group? 

Does seem fishy.

We need his skill base and him in full training mode.

In the article or someone noticed that Matty Whelan our indigenous officer was absent also from training. Thinking a link up there. 

But with his injury and  relationship  issues history with Burgess at Crows he has now had 3 different leg/ tissue injuries in pre season with us. 

At his age of 28/29 it’s not a great base to fitness for an AFL player. Granted heist be frustrated but is he his own worst enemy? 

Now  WCW has had chats and posted that he is very happy here but he might be but can’t really say anything ross as he gets injuries often I guess. Sad to see and hope he can get well asap snd get his chance to shine right us.!

[Clintosaurus 7,572]

39 minutes ago, MrFreeze said:

Reading comments from Brisbane supporters, they did not stress about this guy leaving. Seemed like a not quite right player - similar to Schache, but he has not had much of a chance at the upper level at this point. 

Bit hard to get a look in when there is Hipwood and Daniher, and Big O never seems to be injured. They also have Henry Smith who is highly regarded but also can't crack it for a game and is now in his fourth year on the list. Can't keep everyone.

[MrFreeze 1,858]

3 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

Bit hard to get a look in when there is Hipwood and Daniher, and Big O never seems to be injured. They also have Henry Smith who is highly regarded but also can't crack it for a game and is now in his fourth year on the list. Can't keep everyone.

I agree, but i also thought similarly with Schache as he was competing with very talented key forward/rucks at Brisbane and the Bulldogs.  I hear Fullarton is better at ground level, and plays 'small', not as key position player. 

[MoeSyzlak 652]

15 hours ago, Nascent said:

Unpopular opinion on here it seems but I hope they persist with Laurie, at least for a few more games. Kid has skill, is one of our best by hands and when he gets his confidence up he should sharpen up those kicking skills and help our delivery inside forward 50.

In my view he appears to be a confidence player and doesn't believe he belongs yet. Doesn't help when langdon runs across his kicking line, smothering the kick and then scolds him for it, nor would it help when he was clearly ignored by Salem while he was 20 metres in the clear inside 50. Out of the 6 games he's played he's been sub or subbed out 5 times.

He will want to start showing some serious improvement however and I don't think a forward line can include all of Him, Chandler, Anb, Pickett and Spargo with McAdam to come. Up to him to start taking these chances otherwise he'll be in strife come the end of the year. 

 

Agree re skill. But if you don’t have the competitive drive and aggressive instinct I’m afraid he’ll never really make it. 
 

See Schache, tall and exquisitely skilled for a big man but just doesn’t have the drive. 

[Redleg 40,228]

23 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

Bit hard to get a look in when there is Hipwood and Daniher, and Big O never seems to be injured. They also have Henry Smith who is highly regarded but also can't crack it for a game and is now in his fourth year on the list. Can't keep everyone.

They have or had Darcy Fort as well.