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The 2023 AFL Draft Thread

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The 2023 AFL national draft will be held across two days: Monday November 20 and Tuesday November 21, with coverage of both nights beginning at 7pm (AEDT),

The first round of the draft will be held on Monday November 20, with up to 29 picks set to take place.

The rest of the draft will then take place on Tuesday November 21, with clubs expecting between 55 and 60 picks to be used this year.

The only place to watch all the draft picks as they’re announced on TV is on Fox Footy, via Channel 504 on Foxtel or Kayo Sports.

You can also follow the AFL draft live on foxfooty.com.au with analysis of every pick and every club, along with Fox Footy’s social media channels.

The 2023 AFL pre-season draft and 2023 AFL rookie draft will be held online on Wednesday November 22 from 3pm (AEDT).

HOW DOES THE AFL DRAFT WORK?

The AFL has created the Draft Value Index, which is a system that allocates a points value to the first 73 picks in the draft.

It essentially means clubs that have existing links to draftees, either via their academy or father-son eligibility, must ‘pay’ to secure these players via multiple picks and give rival clubs the chance to bid on these players.

For clubs to secure their linked talent, they must pay and match a bid by using the draft picks/points they already hold. If they don’t have enough points at the time, they can enter draft deficit, which means their hand at the following year’s draft will take a hit. If the club opts not to match, the player goes to the club who made the bid.

The best way to explain how bidding works is through an example. Tap here to find out how Brisbane matched North Melbourne’s bid last year for Lions father-son gun Will Ashcroft.

WHAT IS THE AFL DRAFT 2023 ORDER?

See below, featuring the pick, club and then the draft points attached to the selection.

Note: With live-trading, the draft order is subject to change.

Round 1

1. West Coast Eagles

2. North Melbourne

3. North Melbourne (Ben McKay compensation)

4. Hawthorn

5. Western Bulldogs (via Gold Coast Suns)

6. Melbourne (via Fremantle)

7. GWS Giants (via Richmond)

8. Geelong

9. Essendon

10. Adelaide Crows

11. Melbourne (via Gold Coast and Western Bulldogs)

12. Sydney Swans

13. St Kilda

14. Adelaide Crows (via Gold Coast and Melbourne)

15. North Melbourne (via Port Adelaide)

16. GWS Giants

17. North Melbourne (via Carlton)

18. North Melbourne (via Gold Coast and Western Bulldogs)

19. Collingwood

20. Adelaide Crows (Tom Doedee compensation)

21. St Kilda (Jade Gresham compensation)

22. Carlton (via North Melbourne, from AFL assistance package)

Round 2

23. West Coast Eagles

24. Gold Coast Suns (via Adelaide and North Melbourne)

25. Geelong (via Port Adelaide, Fremantle and North Melbourne, from AFL assistance package)

26. Gold Coast Suns (via Carlton, North Melbourne, Sydney and Hawthorn)

27. Gold Coast Suns (via Adelaide, originally a Gold Coast pick)

28. Carlton (via Gold Coast, Melbourne and Fremantle)

29. Richmond

30. Brisbane Lions (via Geelong)

31. Essendon

32. Gold Coast Suns (via Adelaide)

33. Collingwood (via Hawthorn and Western Bulldogs)

34. Fremantle (via Collingwood and Sydney)

35. Essendon (via St Kilda)

36. Gold Coast Suns (via Melbourne)

37. West Coast Eagles (via Port Adelaide)

38. Gold Coast Suns (via GWS)

39. Brisbane Lions (via Hawthorn, Collingwood and Carlton)

40. St Kilda (via Western Bulldogs and Brisbane)

41. Richmond (via Port Adelaide and Collingwood)

42. Melbourne (James Jordon compensation)

43. GWS Giants (Matt Flynn compensation)

Round 3

44. Hawthorn (via West Coast)

45. Sydney Swans (via North Melbourne)

46. Fremantle (via North Melbourne, from AFL assistance package)

47. Hawthorn (via Brisbane, Melbourne, Sydney, originally a Hawthorn pick)

48. Western Bulldogs (via Gold Coast)

49. Hawthorn (via Richmond, Port Adelaide and Fremantle)

50. Western Bulldogs (via Port Adelaide and Richmond)

51. Brisbane Lions (via Geelong)

52. Western Bulldogs (via Essendon)

53. Western Bulldogs (via Gold Coast and Adelaide)

54. Brisbane Lions (via Hawthorn and Western Bulldogs)

55. Sydney Swans

56. Western Bulldogs (via St Kilda)

57. North Melbourne (via Melbourne)

58. West Coast Eagles (via Port Adelaide)

59. GWS Giants

60. Fremantle (via Carlton)

61. Essendon (via Hawthorn and Brisbane Lions)

62. Hawthorn (via Gold Coast and Collingwood)

Round 4

63. Hawthorn (via West Coast Eagles)

64. Fremantle (via North Melbourne)

65. Richmond (via North Melbourne and Hawthorn)

66. Gold Coast Suns

67. Brisbane Lions (via Fremantle)

68. Richmond

69. Western Bulldogs (via Geelong)

70. Carlton (via Essendon)

71. Gold Coast Suns (via Adelaide)

72. Western Bulldogs

73. Port Adelaide (via Essendon and Sydney)

74. Gold Coast Suns (via St Kilda)

75. Western Bulldogs (via Melbourne)

76. Geelong (via Port Adelaide)

77. GWS Giants

78. Carlton

79. GWS Giants (via Brisbane)

80. Collingwood

Round 5

81. West Coast Eagles

82. North Melbourne

83. Hawthorn

84. Gold Coast Suns

85. Fremantle

86. Richmond

87. Geelong

88. Essendon

89. Adelaide Crows

90. Western Bulldogs

91. Sydney Swans

92. St Kilda

93. Melbourne

94. Geelong (via Port Adelaide)

95. GWS Giants

96. Carlton

97. Brisbane Lions

98. Collingwood

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    2024 DRAFT PICKS TRADED (after 2023 trade period)

    Adelaide Crows

    IN: Round 2 (Melbourne)

    OUT: Nil

    Brisbane Lions

    IN: Round 4 (Hawthorn)

    OUT: Round 2 (Gold Coast)

    Carlton

    IN: Round 4 (Fremantle), Round 4 (Gold Coast Suns), Round 4 (Western Bulldogs)

    OUT: Round 3 (St Kilda), Round 4 (Port Adelaide)

    Collingwood

    IN: Round 2 (Hawthorn), Round 3 (Hawthorn)

    OUT: Round 1 (Fremantle), Round 2 (Hawthorn), Round 4 (Essendon)

    Essendon

    IN: Round 4 (Collingwood)

    OUT: Round 3 (Gold Coast), Round 4 (Port Adelaide)

    Fremantle

    IN: Round 1 (Collingwood), Round 1 (Port Adelaide), Round 2 (St Kilda), Round 4 (St Kilda)

    OUT: Round 2 (Richmond), Round 4 (Carlton)

    Geelong

    IN: Nil

    OUT: Nil

    Gold Coast Suns

    IN: Round 1 (Western Bulldogs), End of Round 1 (second North Melbourne assistance), Round 2 (Brisbane), Round 3 (Essendon)

    OUT: Round 3 (Western Bulldogs), Round 4 (Carlton)

    GWS Giants

    IN: Nil

    OUT: Nil

    Hawthorn

    IN: Round 2 (Collingwood)

    OUT: Round 2 (Collingwood), Round 3 (Collingwood), Round 4 (Brisbane)

    Melbourne

    IN: Round 2 (Sydney), Round 3 (Western Bulldogs)

    OUT: Round 2 (Adelaide), Round 3 (St Kilda)

    North Melbourne

    IN: Nil

    OUT: End of Round 1 (first, Sydney), End of Round 1 (second, Gold Coast)

    Port Adelaide

    IN: Round 4 (Essendon), Round 4 (Carlton)

    OUT: Round 1 (Fremantle), Round 4 (Richmond)

    Richmond

    IN: Round 2 (Fremantle), Round 4 (Port Adelaide)

    OUT: Nil

    St Kilda

    IN: Round 3 (Carlton), Round 3 (Melbourne)

    OUT: Round 2 (Fremantle), Round 4 (Fremantle)

    Sydney Swans

    IN: End of Round 1 (first North Melbourne assistance)

    OUT: Round 2 (Melbourne)

    West Coast Eagles

    IN: Nil

    OUT: Nil

    Western Bulldogs

    IN: Round 3 (Gold Coast)

    OUT: Round 1 (Gold Coast), Round 3 (Melbourne), Round 4 (Carlton)

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    AFL DRAFT VALUE INDEX POINTS VALUES

    Pick 1: 3000 points

    Pick 2: 2517

    Pick 3: 2234

    Pick 4: 2034

    Pick 5: 1878

    Pick 6: 1751

    Pick 7: 1644

    Pick 8: 1551

    Pick 9: 1469

    Pick 10: 1395

    Pick 11: 1329

    Pick 12: 1268

    Pick 13: 1212

    Pick 14: 1161

    Pick 15: 1112

    Pick 16: 1067

    Pick 17: 1025

    Pick 18: 985

    Pick 19: 948

    Pick 20: 912

    Pick 21: 878

    Pick 22: 845

    Pick 23: 815

    Pick 24: 785

    Pick 25: 756

    Pick 26: 729

    Pick 27: 703

    Pick 28: 677

    Pick 29: 653

    Pick 30: 629

    Pick 31: 606

    Pick 32: 584

    Pick 33: 563

    Pick 34: 542

    Pick 35: 522

    Pick 36: 502

    Pick 37: 483

    Pick 38: 465

    Pick 39: 446

    Pick 40: 429

    Pick 41: 412

    Pick 42: 395

    Pick 43: 378

    Pick 44: 362

    Pick 45: 347

    Pick 46: 331

    Pick 47: 316

    Pick 48: 302

    Pick 49: 287

    Pick 50: 273

    Pick 51: 259

    Pick 52: 246

    Pick 53: 233

    Pick 54: 220

    Pick 55: 207

    Pick 56: 194

    Pick 57: 182

    Pick 58: 170

    Pick 59: 158

    Pick 60: 146

    Pick 61: 135

    Pick 62: 123

    Pick 63: 112

    Pick 64: 101

    Pick 65: 90

    Pick 66: 80

    Pick 67: 69

    Pick 68: 59

    Pick 69: 49

    Pick 70: 39

    Pick 71: 29

    Pick 72: 19

    Pick 73: 9

    Picks 74 and onwards: 0

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    Just looking at the graphic really reinforces two things:

    NM absolutely snowed the AFL and

    WC need more high picks; 1, 23, 37 wont cut it for a rebuild.  They must be dirty on NM and will have the hand out next year. A very bad precedent reminiscent of GC (who through the academy are getting yet another leg up.)

    Also Adelaide must be well placed to move up the order.

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    6 minutes ago, Robbie57 said:

    WC need more high picks; 1, 23, 37 wont cut it for a rebuild.

    Normally I'd agree with you but Reid is supposed to be a generational player that'll do wonders for their rebuild.

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    If anyone slides back it will be Geelong.  They have pick 8, 25 and then 70s, and are expected to use four to five picks.  Can see an offer from Adelaide or us swaying them. 

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    7 minutes ago, Robbie57 said:

    Just looking at the graphic really reinforces two things:

    NM absolutely snowed the AFL and

    WC need more high picks; 1, 23, 37 wont cut it for a rebuild.  They must be dirty on NM and will have the hand out next year. A very bad precedent reminiscent of GC (who through the academy are getting yet another leg up.)

    Also Adelaide must be well placed to move up the order.

    North have been absolutely kissed on the d*ck. Massive overcompensation. They've already got a very stacked young midfield that just needs time to mature. LDU, Sympkin, T Thomas, Sheezel, Wardlaw, Philips, Powell is the makings of an elite midfield. Add in another 5 picks within the first 20 in this draft and anything less than a premiership in 5-6 years time must be considered an outright failure. Similar stacked young list to GWS and Gold Coast, both who have failed and are now losing the advantage they were handed.

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    2 nights of this, only in the AFL.

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    6 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

    North have been absolutely kissed on the d*ck. Massive overcompensation. They've already got a very stacked young midfield that just needs time to mature. LDU, Sympkin, T Thomas, Sheezel, Wardlaw, Philips, Powell is the makings of an elite midfield. Add in another 5 picks within the first 20 in this draft and anything less than a premiership in 5-6 years time must be considered an outright failure. Similar stacked young list to GWS and Gold Coast, both who have failed and are now losing the advantage they were handed.

    And like GWS, they'll have a salary cap issue when the list is about to mature and pay dividends, so will have to let some of the key players go. I'd say in about 4-5 years time when the new draftees are about to sign the next contract, 1-2 of their stars will be offered a massive contract, which either Norf meet and cause more issues, or let the player go for more draft picks. 

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    30 minutes ago, Jibroni said:

    2 nights of this, only in the AFL.

    0f course, theyre clowns who take their instructions from corporate media. Keep the plebs on the hook over two nights not just one. 

    Round Zero and Gather Round are just another turn off. Totally unnecessary.

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    53 minutes ago, Jibroni said:

    2 nights of this, only in the AFL.

    at least it doesn't seem like we need to tune into Night 2.

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    57 minutes ago, Jibroni said:

    2 nights of this, only in the AFL.

    Or the NFL, or potentially a lot of other leagues.

    The old format was just reading out names. If you want a similar experience just Google the draft when it’s done.

    They haven’t nailed the format yet but more time to discuss picks is a good thing.

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    26 minutes ago, Deebauched said:

    0f course, theyre clowns who take their instructions from corporate media. Keep the plebs on the hook over two nights not just one. 

    Round Zero and Gather Round are just another turn off. Totally unnecessary.

    Actually do we have any picks in the opening round  (round zero) of the draft? Surely we get one for playing in the opening round?   

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    47 minutes ago, roy11 said:

    at least it doesn't seem like we need to tune into Night 2.

    Does anyone other than those close to the kids potentially being drafted or absolute diehard football nuts? It's essentially a bunch of no-name kids with a lowish chance of making a long term AFL career. No idea why it's an "event" worthy of live media coverage.

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    NFL is 3 days but they do have 32 picks on day 1, 70 or so on day 2 and 150+ on day 3. Plus it is an event the public can attend and is in a different city every year. And Draft Day is one of the great sports movies.

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    don’t think there’s ever been a more open top 10. usually it’s locked solid for weeks

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    I know the TV coverage starts at 7pm, but what time is the actual first pick made?  Is it 7.30?

    (No desire to sit through all the waffle before the interesting stuff happens.)

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    I think the draft is like watching paint dry.

    They sit there and basically create drama for drama's sake.

    I would not allow any club the time they take to make a pick, gets boring to watch.

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    No proofreading on that tweet.

    First I've seen Adelaide linked to Caddy.

     

     

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    Anyone have access to the sun? They have a live late-mail article and headline suggests a deal for Curtin could involve 3-clubs...

    Edit: could be junk q&a style blog with suggestions from fans

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    2 minutes ago, Nascent said:

    Anyone have access to the sun? They have a live late-mail article and headline suggests a deal for Curtin could involve 3-clubs...

    Edit: could be junk q&a style blog with suggestions from fans

     

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