19 minutes ago, Sydney_Demon said:

What? Let's state the actual facts here. Melbourne should have won both finals this year. The problem wasn't our game style. It was purely and simply execution (plus injuries to key players at the wrong time). If Brayshaw had played against Carlton & Collingwood (he played the first 5 minutes) we would have won. If Van Rooyen had played against Carlton we would have won. If Melksham & Petty weren't out we would have won both finals. If we had kicked remotely straight and had a decent amount of luck we would have won.

What exactly have Collingwood achieved so far? Didn't make the Grand Final last year and are in the Prelim this year when they don't deserve to be. We have absolutely nothing to learn from Collingwood's game style. Other sides have now worked them out. A good team but not a great one.  

Total BS. Melbourne aren't a soft team. We didn't lose either game because we were soft. Poor execution, yes. Lapses in concentration at key times, yes. What an idiotic comment about social work. Ben Brown clearly has chronic injury concerms and I'm happy he's making a difference to the world if he's not playing. Have his social work activities caused his inability to get on the park? NO. We play in Alice Springs for purely financial reasons. If we are there why wouldn't we support the local community?

Your " facts" are full of clairvoyant nonsense. 

They list becsuse of multiple fact...ors; the primary one was that they weren't good enough .

I agree the Pies arnt good enough either...they beat a bashed up MFC by only 7 points!!

What they did do last season was show how to attack the goal with speed ,skill and a running pattern that could provide a random player appearing free on the fat side to attack goal.

And they hold there structure and plan regardless which is why they win the  ones.

I think Brisbane has developed a more complete team and will beat GWS at the G in a couple of weeks.

Mostlt injury free pretty much like MFC in 21

If your good enough you win

Melbourne as  of now

 

4 hours ago, BDA said:

Greene plays better when the oppo try to intimidate him. Maynard will go to work on someone else

Maynard will play just  the way he plays..its a pity he and Gus arnt both Demons

4 hours ago, BDA said:

Greene plays better when the oppo try to intimidate him. Maynard will go to work on someone else

Maynard will play just  the way he plays..its a pity he and Gus arnt both Demons,ot that Viney isn't 192 cos ( that would be better

4 hours ago, BDA said:

Greene plays better when the oppo try to intimidate him. Maynard will go to work on someone else

Maynard will play just  the way he plays..its a pity he and Gus arnt both Demons,ot that Viney isn't 192 cos ( that would be better

4 hours ago, BDA said:

Greene plays better when the oppo try to intimidate him. Maynard will go to work on someone else

Maynard will play just  the way he plays..its a pity he and Gus arnt both Demons,or that Viney isn't 192 cms( that would be better)

Edited September 17, 20231 yr by IRW

The only bandwagon I am on now is our AFLW team. Couldn’t care less about the teams left. After the goings on of the last week the AFL can get [censored]!!!!!!!!!

Lions and the Giants either or will do.

6 minutes ago, Dee Viney Intervention said:

The only bandwagon I am on now is our AFLW team. Couldn’t care less about the teams left. After the goings on of the last week the AFL can get [censored]!!!!!!!!!

Agree re AFLW but would love to see the pies get beaten. I will enjoy that if it comes to pass

GWS are going to absolutely belt the Pies and most of their supporters don't even see it coming.

Can't wait to see their "oh [censored]" faces about half way through the second.

 

47 minutes ago, IRW said:

Your " facts" are full of clairvoyant nonsense. 

They list becsuse of multiple fact...ors; the primary one was that they weren't good enough .

I agree the Pies arnt good enough either...they beat a bashed up MFC by only 7 points!!

What they did do last season was show how to attack the goal with speed ,skill and a running pattern that could provide a random player appearing free on the fat side to attack goal.

And they hold there structure and plan regardless which is why they win the  ones.

I think Brisbane has developed a more complete team and will beat GWS at the G in a couple of weeks.

Mostlt injury free pretty much like MFC in 21

If your good enough you win

Melbourne as  of now

 

I totally agree Melbourne weren't good enough. I wasn't making excuses for them losing. My point was it wasn't game style that beat us. Similarly, it wasn't because we were soft. Last year people said the same thing. That our attitude was wrong. That our game style was wrong. Also absolute BS. We lost finals last year because we were banged up, couldn't run games out, and didn't put the Swans & Lions away in the first halves of our finals when we dominated. It's so easy for fans & 'experts' to re-write history based on results. Last year Geelong had the softest draw of all time for a top team (gifted 4 games by playing North and the Eagles twice) & had easy Prelim & Grand Final against teams that had effectively played their Grand Finals the week before. If Geelong had lost their Qualifying Final to Collingwood who knows who would have been Premiers? The same applied for Melbourne this year. In 2021 Melbourne had all the luck, the last 2 years it's been the opposite. Attitude isn't the issue.

38 minutes ago, Dee Viney Intervention said:

The only bandwagon I am on now is our AFLW team. Couldn’t care less about the teams left. After the goings on of the last week the AFL can get [censored]!!!!!!!!!

For the AFL it's all about the optics. Michael Christian didn't want to even cite Maynard because he felt it was a football action. He was overridden. Of course when Maynard got off the AFL didn't appeal. They got exactly what they wanted. It looks like they did the right thing by Brayshaw and are absolved from the final outcome.   

Edited September 17, 20231 yr by Sydney_Demon

2 hours ago, MoeSyzlak said:

Amazing what good kicking can do. Although they missed a few as well overall they have some elite kicks in Kelly, Whitfield etc. 

 

Seems the easiest way to open the game up these days. We are terrible at it 

16 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Can't help but be super impressed with the way they go about it. Putting Port to the sword and they genuinely look like a premiership contender in my opinion. 

They should absolutely dare to dream because they play a brand that is well equipped on the big stage.

I mean watching Jesse Hogan in itself makes me depressed but I'm bloody happy for him and hope he gets success.

Toby Green, Josh Kelly and Lachie Whitfield are genuine stars of the competition 

They're my go to team for the finals.

 

+1 I jumped out of my seat when Jesse took that hanger. Very happy for the big fella

17 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Can't help but be super impressed with the way they go about it. Putting Port to the sword and they genuinely look like a premiership contender in my opinion. 

They should absolutely dare to dream because they play a brand that is well equipped on the big stage.

I mean watching Jesse Hogan in itself makes me depressed but I'm bloody happy for him and hope he gets success.

Toby Green, Josh Kelly and Lachie Whitfield are genuine stars of the competition 

They're my go to team for the finals.

 

You better damn believe it.

They ride in waves and make our decision making with ball in hand look like kindergarten.

Love watching this team, come on dubs go all the way. Brisbane v GWS Grand Final would wipe away about 70% of the hurt this year. 

To answer OPs question directly, I’d support the devil himself if it means the filth, their supporters, Howe and Maynard are denied a flag. 

I’m supporting anyone playing Pies or Blues!!

17 hours ago, John Demonic said:

Collingwood v GWS. Eddie McGuire or Donald Trump. I'm genuinely confused who to barrack for now

Let’s take a look at the reactions following the tribunal's verdict…

Eddie Mcguire: “Justice has been done”.

Donald Trump: “Think of that: from within is worse than without.”

I'm in agreement with Donald Trump in this instance.

I was really enjoying watching the GWS vs PA game last night. Now I want GWS to knock Collingwood out of the finals series; I believe they will. However, after the GF, I’ll immediately view GWS as our primary enemy and Carlton as our 2ncondary enemy for our team. These two teams will be the main hurdles between us and the flag next year. We have a significant challenge ahead of us.

4 hours ago, Sydney_Demon said:

I totally agree Melbourne weren't good enough. I wasn't making excuses for them losing. My point was it wasn't game style that beat us. Similarly, it wasn't because we were soft. Last year people said the same thing. That our attitude was wrong. That our game style was wrong. Also absolute BS. We lost finals last year because we were banged up, couldn't run games out, and didn't put the Swans & Lions away in the first halves of our finals when we dominated. It's so easy for fans & 'experts' to re-write history based on results. Last year Geelong had the softest draw of all time for a top team (gifted 4 games by playing North and the Eagles twice) & had easy Prelim & Grand Final against teams that had effectively played their Grand Finals the week before. If Geelong had lost their Qualifying Final to Collingwood who knows who would have been Premiers? The same applied for Melbourne this year. In 2021 Melbourne had all the luck, the last 2 years it's been the opposite. Attitude isn't the issue.

For the AFL it's all about the optics. Michael Christian didn't want to even cite Maynard because he felt it was a football action. He was overridden. Of course when Maynard got off the AFL didn't appeal. They got exactly what they wanted. It looks like they did the right thing by Brayshaw and are absolved from the final outcome.   

I'd suggest their game plan is actually  the problem and it has been exposed .

The defence is supreme which keeps them in the games. 

There was meant to be a tweak in the early season but it went back to the habitual bash and hoof it long and high pretty quick .

Why didn't the FD put their foot down?

I haven't questioned the players effort,courage or commitment. 

Edited September 17, 20231 yr by IRW

I rarely bet on football , or at all, but I put a portion of my meagre resources on GWS, yesterday. To beat port , $2.20, and to win flag , $13.00.

So, showing a profit and riding for free on GF.

I'm not backing them against pies. GWS will win and that will be sweet enough. So sweet. I'm dreaming of it. Might go to game.

Go Orange Team!!

6 hours ago, Deebauched said:

MFC have to shutdown all this social work nonesense. Ben Brown spent most of the season hanging with children. Hes the highest paid social worker in Australia on 650k ?

Shutdown Alice Springs and all that feel good nonesense that goes with it.

 

 

 

I know who I’d like to shutdown right about now.

To the “everyone’s entitled to their opinion” brigade… the above Ben Brown comments, are they fair enough? How dare anyone question what BBB does with his time! Shame on you, Deebauched. 

It would be so Toby Greene to kick 5 goals, win them the game and get himself suspended for the GF after 2 years of being on his best behaviour.

15 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

It would be so Toby Greene to kick 5 goals, win them the game and get himself suspended for the GF after 2 years of being on his best behaviour.

This.

We are destined for a Grand Final week tribunal headline, destined. 

21 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

It would be so Toby Greene to kick 5 goals, win them the game and get himself suspended for the GF after 2 years of being on his best behaviour.

as long as it's a "football act" he should be fine

or a split second non-conscious decision

will be fun watching the tribunal and appeal board, but

Reckon it's ripe for the Lions taking. They should belt a banged up Blues and will beat Pies or Giants in GF.