57 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

A lot of people seem to have missed that the umpire, who sees thousands of ‘football acts’ a week, and was the closest official to the incident, immediately reported Maynard.

The bloke whose job it is to oversee the rules was 10 metres away and reported him. That tells you everything.

I think the MRO was going to be overhauled anyway, and this will give them the impetus to do it. I’d be shocked if Christian is in that role next year. 

Can't believe Christian didn't refer it to the tribunal, he obviously can't be neutral when it has anything to do with Collingwood.

Ex-Collingwood player trying to look after his own.

Makes me sick the number of Collingwood people standing up for the thug. Buckley comes to mind. What would he be saying if Maynard played for another team?

And all of the Collingwood 'friendlies' - a fair portion of the media that have been sucking up to Collingwood for the past 12 months and continue to do so.

1 hour ago, The heart beats true said:

A lot of people seem to have missed that the umpire, who sees thousands of ‘football acts’ a week, and was the closest official to the incident, immediately reported Maynard.

The bloke whose job it is to oversee the rules was 10 metres away and reported him. That tells you everything.

I think the MRO was going to be overhauled anyway, and this will give them the impetus to do it. I’d be shocked if Christian is in that role next year. 

Yes! This is the first time that I have heard that Maynard was reported. Why has this blindingly obvious piece of evidence only been revealed now?!?!

2 hours ago, daisycutter said:

i know and it is so frustrating

but i'm old fashioned and just like a bit of truth, transparency and honesty, especially from the custodians of our game

i live in despondent hope 

Channelling my inner BBO: you mean Burwood? 😄😆🤣

@Redleg 'So despite a report on the ground by an umpire, close to the incident and the fact that a player had been knocked out for 2 minutes, with his career and health impacted, Christian attempted to whitewash the whole incident and not even have it tested by the Tribunal.'

Spiking the umpires report is the deal breaker for me, the MRO is supposed to be for incidents caught on telly. An immediate direct report by the umpire carries serious weight, the fact that the media was overlooking this with all the commentary from former 'thugs hard men', goes to some serious jury tampering. The umpire being close and with a good view is highly relevant.

Have seen some media is starting to pick up on the shoulder as a separate action to the smother.

So seriously, MC can really GAGF, don't want to hear from him again, and the MRO needs to be rejigged. 

And serious props to Laura Kane, past her 1st test in the big chair, stone killer to face down the pressure around this.

Edited September 11, 20231 yr by DEE fence
a conclusion

15 minutes ago, 3183 Dee said:

Yes! This is the first time that I have heard that Maynard was reported. Why has this blindingly obvious piece of evidence only been revealed now?!?!

it was mentioned on the broadcast, but not afterwards.

Agreed!

Sack him now!

Disgusting Collingwood bias!

I want Michael Christian's head on a [censored] plate! 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

 

I have had an enlightening read on some bikkie club up in the Hume region tonight . I am happy to transport Mr Christian to this club for his deeds this past week. 😂🔫🛵🧑‍🦼

2 hours ago, DubDee said:

Surely the MRO not being trusted with a decision and being immediately overruled should be enough for him to be sacked

Christian - for crimes against the AFL, and general incompetence, you are sentenced to 5 years out of the game. The MRO will be disbanded, to be replaced by the psychic octopus from the World Cup

Psychic octopus is sooo 2010s.

Replace him with an AI bot.

Michael Christian's position as MRO is completely untenable now, I expect him to have his desk cleaned out by the end of the week.

1 hour ago, Gawndy the Great said:

It was said on couch that he would put his job on the line and it took 5 hours of discussion to reach a compromise. 
 

I highly doubt he will be there next year. 

So he was willing to quit rather than apply a suspension? He knew how this would look so what was the compromise, the referral to the tribunal? This is just amateur hour, the fact the AFL let one buffoon control the decisions for so long is farcical, especially when he has a clear club allegiance. Now, all in football will but you mitigate that by not having a sole arbiter.

28 minutes ago, Glorious Day said:

Ex-Collingwood player trying to look after his own.

Makes me sick the number of Collingwood people standing up for the thug. Buckley comes to mind. What would he be saying if Maynard played for another team?

Can you imagine the outcry if Viney had done this to Nick Daicos?? He would be looking at 6 weeks.

1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

So he was willing to quit rather than apply a suspension? He knew how this would look so what was the compromise, the referral to the tribunal? This is just amateur hour, the fact the AFL let one buffoon control the decisions for so long is farcical, especially when he has a clear club allegiance. Now, all in football will but you mitigate that by not having a sole arbiter.

It is has been accepted fact around ethics for awhile now that even a perception of a conflict of interest is as much a concern as an actual conflict of interest, that he doesn't get that is a serious red flag.  

1 hour ago, Earl Hood said:

I think the fact Laura Kane’s name is included in the statement is telling and add to that it took hours, until after the nightly News opportunities for a decision to be announced. I suspect Laura put up a very strong and long argument for the decision against significant opposition from the usual old guard. 

yes, it got explained on fc tonight in so much detail it couldn't have been guesswork

gill, dill, and laura forced it, though whether their motives were pure or just optics was unclear

what a hopeless, compromised lot.

13 minutes ago, DEE fence said:

it was mentioned on the broadcast, but not afterwards.

Not in the match report on the AFL app either

16 minutes ago, DEE fence said:

@Redleg 'So despite a report on the ground by an umpire, close to the incident and the fact that a player had been knocked out for 2 minutes, with his career and health impacted, Christian attempted to whitewash the whole incident and not even have it tested by the Tribunal.'

Spiking the umpires report is the deal breaker for me, the MRO is supposed to be for incidents caught on telly. An immediate direct report by the umpire carries serious weight, the fact that the media was overlooking this with all the commentary from former 'thugs hard men', goes to some serious jury tampering. The umpire being close and with a good view is highly relevant.

Have seen some media is starting to pick up on the shoulder as a separate action to the smother.

So seriously, MC can really GAGF, don't want to hear from him again, and the MRO needs to be rejigged. 

And serious props to Laura Kane, past her 1st test in the big chair, stone killer to face down the pressure around this.

Yes, Laura is a breath of fresh air

And Christian putting his own job on the line is weird.  What was he worried about?

Is he that biased towards Collingwood and if so, how on earth can he hold such an important position for so long?  Bizarre

Caro mentioned that Gil & Dillon wanted the case to go straight to the tribunal as well

9 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

It was said on couch that he would put his job on the line and it took 5 hours of discussion to reach a compromise. 
 

I highly doubt he will be there next year. 

What compromise is there? It’s not some political legislation negotiation. That’s bizarre. 

To allow just one individual to wield so much power reeks of bad governance in the first place. The AFL board needs to be held accountable for allowing this to happen.

9 hours ago, 3183 Dee said:

Yes! This is the first time that I have heard that Maynard was reported. Why has this blindingly obvious piece of evidence only been revealed now?!?!

Because it was unhelpful to the Pies       ( footy act ) media narrative.

Contrast this incident with the Hunter suspension, where Hunter just stood still and Butters went low, sliding into his hip and the Tribunal said he should have jumped out of the way and then Butters continued on playing, to get 43 possies, in the best game of his life.

It’s like a scratch compared to a nuclear blast and people are actually suggesting the scratch was worse.

Edited September 11, 20231 yr by Redleg

12 hours ago, Red and Bluebeard said:

Channelling my inner BBO: you mean Burwood? 😄😆🤣

If you were really channeling your inner BBO you’d say Borewood 😁 

Imagine if May crashed into a Nick Daicos calibre player and knocked him out cold well after kicking the ball.

Christian would  go ballistic.

Severe impact High Contact. Straight to the tribunal for May.

Maynard?   "errrr   nothing to answer for ". Next case  JVR youre a Melb player, 1 week.  f  you.

Edited September 12, 20231 yr by Deebauched

14 hours ago, Earl Hood said:

 I suspect Laura put up a very strong and long argument for the decision against significant opposition from the usual old guard. 

No coincidence she is a lawyer.

And leaving the legal dimension aside, as football manager she knows that the white noise of ex footballers and media that only care about numbers (viewers, listeners, clicks, mentions etc etc) is a dangerous furphy in terms of the future of the game.

The 'optics' on this could not be worse. Particularly given the success of the Matildas at the world cup and the buzz they will generate at the Paris Olympics.

How many parents of young boys and girls will want their kids to play a sport that gives short thrift to serious head trauma?

Kane has earned my respect that's for sure (not that i didn't respect her before).

He's no Christian, fancy not referring this to the tribunal, should have fallen on his Sword the second Laura came off the top turn buckle and stamped her authority.

Complete biase shown toward his former club.

AFL step in and sack the sorry💩.

 

Edited September 12, 20231 yr by YesitwasaWin4theAges

@Demonland please end this account

23 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

I vote nobody responds to the Collingwood supporter (above). 

 

6 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

@Demonland please end this account

Please use the report feature in the future rather than quote the post.

Causes more work for the mods to have to delete extra posts.