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PREGAME: SF vs Carlton

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1 hour ago, Demons11 said:

Harmes got injured in the 2’s today 

Of course he did.

We are having a seriously good year on the injury front.

No doubt Gawn, Trac and Clarry will somehow all fall into a well this week.

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    In Grundy, Jordon, Spargo

    Out JVR, Brayshaw, Laurie

    Not much else you can do.

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    1 hour ago, Demons11 said:

    Harmes got injured in the 2’s today 

    What does this mean?

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    I'm not qualified to comment because I haven't seen the game, but my musings are:

    • If JVR gets suspended, we probably have no choice. but to keep TMac irrespective of how bad he was
    • We have to pick either Schache or Grundy to replace JVR if he gets suspended, or likely to replace TMac if JVR doesn't get suspended
    • You'd think Jordon gets Brayshaw's spot
    • I'm a long way from convinced that Laurie is good enough to be in the side and I don't think he makes a good sub. Perhaps Woey could add some pace to the side as the sub?
    • We appear to have a problem with Salem's form but the only option we had to make a change there just got concussed and can't play next week

    Any chance JVR can get away with a fine?

    If it's deemed careless and low impact he can get away with a fine.

    If it's deemed careless and medium impact then it's 1 week.

    If it's deemed intentional and medium then it's 2 weeks.

    It was an in play incident so hopefully they'll deem it careless rather than intentional.


    2 hours ago, Demons11 said:

    Harmes got injured in the 2’s today 

    What does this mean

    1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Source?

    Who impressed?

    Just got it from someone who was there watching.  We lost by a pt also but I didn’t really ask any other questions.  I also don’t know if Harmes injury was serious or not. 

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    Hard to see a better team from what is left at Casey.

    Next Friday's weather is showing as warm (24) and fine

    If Carlton I'd be including Tomlinson. Perhaps Turner if Sydney

    Forward... like the selection committee... I'm bereft of ideas

     

    Unfortunately our first half was foreshadowed by our pre-game warmup. I have never seen our players fumble, drop marks or stuff up as many kicks in that warm up in my time watching us, even when we were really rubbish! I get that it was still fairly greasy/wet at that stage but to me they just didn't seem switched on or thought it was 23c and sunny!

    Don't worry about our forward line issues. Goodwin and the team will take many learnings and work on their forward line connection. As I have heard the players say on multiple occasions, if we bring the contest and defence, the forward line will take care of itself. It's just a shame that Goodwin must have such a complicated forward line gameplan that it is taking the players the best part of 3 years now to try to understand it. Either that or his plan is to kick high to the pockets inside 50 so that we can get a stoppage. We then play 2 men back so we are undermanned in the forward line stoppage and wonder why the opposition gets it out so easy but then we get it back to do the same thing all over again. Unfortunately, we could have a forward line of Leigh Matthews, John Coleman and Tony Lockett, there is no way that plan would even let them kick goals, but hey, Goody knows best so get off his back everyone!

    I just think our whole game plan which we always hear is based on repeat forward entries is flawed. 

    No need to get a repeat entry if you kick a goal.

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    8 minutes ago, Bates Mate said:

    I just think our whole game plan which we always hear is based on repeat forward entries is flawed. 

    No need to get a repeat entry if you kick a goal.

    Correct, what we actually need is I50 effectiveness.

    Regardless of how much inside 50 we get, we must make the most of it.

    Our gameplan should be to lock the ball inside 50 and generate as many goals as possible.

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    6 hours ago, Glorious Day said:

    Out: Van Rooyen, Brayshaw, Laurie, Salem, McDonald

    In: Turner/Tomlinson, Spargo, Jordan, Grundy, Schache

    I would have no issues with this

     

    Harmes in for Laurie also

     

    B - Hibberd, May, Tomlinson

    HB - McVee, Lever, Rivers

    C - Langdon, Viney, Hunter

    HF - Chandler, Schache, Pickett

    F - Neal-Bullen, Fritsch, Grundy

    RUCK - Gawn, Oliver, Petracca

    INT - Harmes, Bowey, Sparrow, Spargo

    23rd - Jordan

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    IN: Tomlinson, Spargo, Grundy, Jordan
    OUT: Laurie (sub), Gus, Rooey, Chandler
    SUB: Hibbo

    Ineffective forward entry has been our issue for years.. Long bombing into a pack needs to stop!

    Goody's choice to play a unproven fifth gamer baffles me.. 

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    8 hours ago, leucopogon said:

    Salem definitely should be dropped. The game has well and truly passed him by unfortunately.

    Prob a bit extreme. More so to do with his pre season illness. 


    2 hours ago, Age said:

    Unfortunately our first half was foreshadowed by our pre-game warmup. I have never seen our players fumble, drop marks or stuff up as many kicks in that warm up in my time watching us, even when we were really rubbish! I get that it was still fairly greasy/wet at that stage but to me they just didn't seem switched on or thought it was 23c and sunny!

     

    I wasn't there last night (I live in WA), but your comment sparked a memory from the 2018 Prelim final vs the Eagles. I noticed this exact thing during the warm up to that game, fumbly, nervous players looked beaten before the national anthem had even been sung. 

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    We didn't play well - and lost by a goal. Fritta or Koz kick what is usually regulation for them in the last and who knows. So, let's not throw the baby out.

    Gus and I suspect JVR will go out.
    JJ in for midfield balance, Turner in. Smaller forward line, partly because we don't have much else, and partly because we have to learn how to use the ball better going in.

    Tracc more forward minutes. Possibly Spargo as Sub for Laurie who looked overwhelmed. Charlie only need 4 kicks forward to make a difference, and because he can't bomb it our players separate better for him.

    So if games go with the favourites

    We'll play The Blues next Friday

    Then Lions away the Sat after?

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    58 minutes ago, DubDee said:

    So if games go with the favourites

    We'll play The Blues next Friday

    Then Lions away the Sat after?

    Spot on!

    Or better still, we will be playing the Semi Final next Friday night and the Preliminary Final the following Saturday twilight if we make it - both time slots regardless of who our opposition is.

     

     

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    1 hour ago, DubDee said:

    So if games go with the favourites

    We'll play The Blues next Friday

    Then Lions away the Sat after?

    And then Port the week after that

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    3 hours ago, SthSea22 said:

    I would have no issues with this

     

    Harmes in for Laurie also

     

    B - Hibberd, May, Tomlinson

    HB - McVee, Lever, Rivers

    C - Langdon, Viney, Hunter

    HF - Chandler, Schache, Pickett

    F - Neal-Bullen, Fritsch, Grundy

    RUCK - Gawn, Oliver, Petracca

    INT - Harmes, Bowey, Sparrow, Spargo

    23rd - Jordan

    Too many changes

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    I think Schache has to come in. At least he’s a reliable set shot. Grundy into the side and moving Gawn forward will tempt the mids to bomb in long again. We brought Grundy in against Carlton last time and couldn’t even crack 60pts.

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    6 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Source?

    Who impressed?

    Turner got swung forward today and did very well supposedly 

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    6 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

    Turner got swung forward today and did very well supposedly 

    Who was there and where's the match report for christ's sake!!

    On my desk in 10!!

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    3 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

    Who was there and where's the match report for christ's sake!!

    On my desk in 10!!

    🤣🤣 I’ve just got a few snippets.

    Jordan played well also.  

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