Andy please disregard ‘scraggiest’ in my post 🙄 though it was the scraggiest kind of behaviour from whoever the Lions had on Trac. I think autocorrect changed it instead of showing scragged 😵‍💫

One point up, Viney clears from Centre bounce and kicks the ball  in front of goals-20 seconds left in the game. (I kid you not I’m getTing nervous just typing this) . JVR gains possession of  the ball - it looked to me  like he is about to have a shot - but instead decides to handball a little in front.  Do you think that was tactical.  Would they be instructed not to go for goal in case it’s a point and the Lions gain possession? 
 

In answer to Binman- best home and away win I’ve ever seen live. Loved the noise we all made ❤️💙❤️

Edited July 16, 20231 yr by Roostwo

In terms of amazing games I’ve seen live in no particular order:

Eagles v Demons (Round 22) in 2018

Queen’s Birthday v Pies in 2017 

QF v Carlton in 2000

EF v Saints in 2006

This game was certainly up there with the King’s Birthday game this season👍🏻

13 hours ago, OhMyDees said:

In terms of amazing games I’ve seen live in no particular order:

Eagles v Demons (Round 22) in 2018

Queen’s Birthday v Pies in 2017 

QF v Carlton in 2000

EF v Saints in 2006

This game was certainly up there with the King’s Birthday game this season👍🏻

Good list. I loved that come from behind win against the dockers too. Austin Wonaeamerri game

What do you gentlemen think about the echo chamber that is the AFL Media?

Daicos this, Daicos that, Collingwood Premiers already... Very tiring and obnoxious.

By the way, David King already said that it is Collingwood's premiership to lose, so I think he has already jinxed them. 😂

14 hours ago, OhMyDees said:

In terms of amazing games I’ve seen live in no particular order:

Eagles v Demons (Round 22) in 2018

Queen’s Birthday v Pies in 2017 

QF v Carlton in 2000

EF v Saints in 2006

This game was certainly up there with the King’s Birthday game this season👍🏻

What about v Cats EF 2018.

v Carlton last season? (Kozzys goal).

my biggest questions are about forward line structure.
 

Can we play melksham and Fritsch together?

who plays forward when all fit out of jvr, brown, McDonald and Grundy? 
 

petracca must surely play at least 50% forward after the last fortnight too. 

I saw the game as about a 50/50 split. When Brisbane were on top we looked helpless. What needs to improve for us to stop them looking so good in offense as they did in the middle of the game. Ideally we need to shorten periods of dominance to less than half the game.

1 hour ago, ElDiablo14 said:

What do you gentlemen think about the echo chamber that is the AFL Media?

Daicos this, Daicos that, Collingwood Premiers already... Very tiring and obnoxious.

By the way, David King already said that it is Collingwood's premiership to lose, so I think he has already jinxed them. 😂

I really hope he has and this is what I'm doing when I talk highly of them. 

At the game it was clear we lifted our intensity mid way through the third. It went goal for goal at the end and then we dominated the last quarter. Game over. What’s impressed me the most the last 2 weeks is the rise of the second tier mids under Viney. Can you see a spot for JJ once Oliver comes back? Has there ever been a more important goal than the one Viney kicked? Do you see Chandler making his way back into the side after his stellar first 10 games?

Sorry Andy, I’m fired up this morning & made a meal of the vmail service — 2m thing really threw — might be too late to work into the pod but I just wanted to say my bit to align to Binman’s 2023 rhetoric — which is spot-on!!!

Boy, how excited I am to have a coaching panel that’s being SMARTER in 2023 & fooling the moronic, forcibly vitriolic & reactive mainstream-media-bots w/their mediocrity & reactive mentality into having zero idea as to what MFC are building, not to mention the fact Clarry is gonna be cherry-ripe, that Slewyn has the boys super fit & more-dangerously the point — has them believing in that Aerobic excellence to the point where we sense we can beat anyone if in the game in last qtr!!! Buckley even tried to back over his verbal-faecal-matter LW saying for large part of the game he was right about MFC “fighting to make finals” despite us only being a victim to brilliance + some of the best kicking i’ve seen in 35+ years of footy! We rode it out & came home with confidence, belief & as Binman & I concur — this innate belief throughout the coaching & playing group is coming to the fore now, despite not having 2 of our absolute best & adroit players. That’s what concession can do (expected score has us +26 to expected btw)

So I’m interested in each of you opening up on how you sre taking that last 12m & if you see it being let-loose now or kept in the tool-kit? I think we brought it out earlier than we’d of liked but wow, what a show! DON’T SLEEP on fact we missed 4 PRIME opportunities earlier in qtr (Brown missed mark in square, Max miss early in qtr, Nibs miss, Roo chance at end of qtr & more) & the ONLY Lions goal was from a wrongly adjudicated free. All this against a team in-form, firing & playing their best footy (that won’t stand up in finals, as it needs to be too perfect to come thru).
 

It’ll be intriguing to see if SG locks away this beast-mode or will he now back us to maintain it for 6wks & Finals? My thought is that it’s prob still too early to let cat out of bag, as teams can study it & try to combat it & show other teams a “how-to” guide, risky! Will we go back to 80% beast-mode & only break-glass if needed?

May still a worry, back 100% worrying him & fwd-line for me still needs to be worked out (FWIW: Grundy will play 35% Ruck & rest fwd/bench 60/40 — alongside a fwd line of the following: BBB (the vacuum), JVR, Fritta, Melk, Kossie, Nibbs & Trac that’s the fwd line, (yes it’s 8 players as that’s how fwd/bk teams work in modern footy folks due to rotations (bench) & rotations (rotate on-field) before I get apoplectic induced nibbles from tribe) only other combo is Tommo in & Petty fwd, but that’s in-shed atm!

Keep up the great work. PS The Grundy narrative is just so moronic & delivered with false temerity that I’m at a loss to even begin to challenge it such is the lunacy & lack of common sense in some of the commentary. Grundy is NOT going anywhere, he WILL play Finals & the last 2-3 H&A games as it’s all sort of the bigger picture folks & shows the hegemony of our Club.
 

Lastly, love to know if you felt THAT coming as I did, ie you were seeing Brisbane’s fear with them locking thing a up & seemingly worried bout our firepwr & fitness knowing they couldn’t keep playing that perfect OR if — like I would of been 4y ago  — were you tossing out bubs with its dirty bath water?

 @binman How much SHOULD SG let the boys go now Ala prev yrs or does he cont to hold back until its too short a time period for clubs to react & makes it less weeks we have to keep the momentum up?

Clubs need a LOT of luck to win a flag folks so it’s no guarantee… But boy, we’re loaded & ready to explode you can take that to the bank whilst picturing a non-niggle-laden Clarry (which really we’ve never seen before with the power he has now as he’s been banged up for 3 years), absolutely flying R20 onward 🔥🔥🔥

This is a special group folks, strap in!!! Yes I’m super-positive, an antidote to Andy’s MFCSS, but like Binman - it’s for a reason.. The closer I look at data the more I #believeinthedees 2023 Campaign & relish the strategy behind it.

YET not one media person outside Kornes (who’d of thought) & likely Hoyne will see it for what it is.. a scary scary proposition to handle! Mainstream media: Instead, somehow they all jump on the cats. Which I’m certain Mr Poker-Face himself, Goody — is all the more happy with!!!

Edited July 17, 20231 yr by Nudge
Structure reset

2 minutes ago, Nudge said:

Sorry Andy, fired up this morning & made a meal of the vmail service — 2m thing really threw — and might be too late to work into the pod but I just wanted to say to @Binman especially, how excited I am to have a coaching panel that’s being SMART this year and fooling the moronic, forcibly vitriolic & reactive mainstream media with their mediocrity & reactive mentality into having literally NO IDEA what MFC are doing & building inc the fact Clarry is gonna be cherry-ripe, having the boys super fit and confident in that fitness to where they sense they can beat anyone if in the game in last qtr !!! Buckley even tried to back over his comments LW again saying for large part of the game he was right about us “fighting to make finals” despite us only being a victim to brilliance & some of the best kicking I’ve seen in 35 years of watching footy! We rode it out & came home with confidence, belief & as Binman and I concur — we’ve got this innate belief through the coaching and playing group that we can beat anyone & will, which is coming to the fore now despite not having 2 of our absolute core best 5 players.

So I’m interested in each of you blokes opening up on how you take that last 15m & if you see it being maintained or kept in the tool-kit? I think we brought it out earlier than we’d of liked but boy what a show! DO NOT SLEEP on fact we missed 4 PRIME opportunities earlier in qtr (Brown missed mark in square, Max miss early in qtr, Roo goal at end of qtr & more) and ONLY Brisbane goal was from a wrongly adjudicated free kick. All this against a team in-form, firing & playing their best footy (that won’t stand up in finals, as it needs to be too perfect to come thru). Will we try and out that beast-mode away or will be now back ourselves to maintain for 6wks? My thought is that it’s prob still too early for teams to study it & try to combat it so we will go back to 80% beast-mode only but to know we have that gear ready to go is just AWESOME!!!

YET not one media person outside Kornes (who’s of thought) & likely Hoyne will see it for what it is.. a scary scary proposition to handle!

May still a worry, back 100% worrying him & fwd-line for me still needs to be worked out (FWIW: Grundy will play 35% Ruck & rest fwd/bench 60/40 — alongside a fwd line of the following: BBB (the vacuum), JVR, Fritta, Melk, Kossie, Nibbs & Trac that’s the fwd line, (yes it’s 8 players as that’s how fwd/bk teams work in modern footy folks due to rotations (bench) & rotations (rotate on-field) before I get nibbles from the chirpy ones 😂) only other possible combo is Tommo in & Petty fwd but that’s in-shed atm.

Keep up the great work. PS The Grundy narrative is just so moronic I’m at a loss to even begin to challenge it such is the lunacy & lack of common sense in some of the commentary. Grundy is NOT going anywhere, he WILL play Finals & the last 2-3 H&A games it’s all sort of the bigger picture folks.

Love your thoughts on above guys, inc if you felt it coming like I did or if — like I prev would of been 4yrs ago  — you were seeing Brisbane’s fear of our run and fitness knowing they couldn’t keep playing that well — And how much does Goody let the boys go now Ala prev yrs or does he cont to hold back until its too short a time period for clubs to react & makes it less weeks we have to keep the momentum up?

You need a LOT of luck to win a flag folks so it’s no guarantee… BUT boy, we’re loaded & ready take that to the bank & picture a non-niggled Clarry which really we’ve never seen before with the power he has now! He’s been banged up for 3 years, just watch him fly R20 onward 🔥🔥🔥

This is a special group folks, strap in!!! Yes I’m super positive, but like Binman - it’s for a reason as the closer I look at data the more I continue to #believeinthedees

Instead, somehow they all jump on the cats 

I got them and will work them in. I didn't know there was a 2 minute voicemail limit. Do you want me to use the voicemails or this post or both? Is there anything new here that wasn't in the voicemails?

1 minute ago, Demonland said:

I got them and will work them in. I didn't know there was a 2 minute voicemail limit. Do you want me to use the voicemails or this post or both? Is there anything new here that wasn't in the voicemails?

If you wanna work em in, go for — I just didn’t wanna create too much work for you mate! Some new content so both may have a place  (re moving fwd & team structure yep. Repeat is more in the vibe than the content I think but I trust you implicitly & this defer 😎 

16 minutes ago, Nudge said:

If you wanna work em in, go for — I just didn’t wanna create too much work for you mate! Some new content so both may have a place  (re moving fwd & team structure yep. Repeat is more in the vibe than the content I think but I trust you implicitly & this defer 😎 

I’ll edit out anything repeated from My post to make your life easier, how’s that? (Which I’ve now done)

Edited July 17, 20231 yr by Nudge
Edit notification for Andy

q for @binman - what does he have against "holy grail"?!??

i take it he's more of a the jaws of life kinda fella over ghost nation, but surely human frailty is numero uno?

kiss my art his go-to for p&d?

On 7/16/2023 at 8:51 AM, demosaw said:

Love the pod! ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️. An amazing win, Max, Trac, Viney personified incredible effort, skill belief and leadership. We were clean and on early, raced to 4 goal lead and looked like we would run away. Brisbane (clearly a good side) eroded that lead by half-time before getting out to 28 points themselves several times. How did this 50 point swing happen and what do we need to improve in this middle period?

Agree with that I would like to know your comments on how it was so easy in 2nd, 3rd quarters for Brisbane to cut through our defence to score, and so difficult in the other quarters? 

Fantastic and important win. I’d be curious for the panels thoughts on why and where we struggled in the third quarter. It seems we were beaten in the middle of the ground, were unable to move it forward and that we were only able to swing the momentum when Petracca moved to the middle late in the quarter. 

Edited July 17, 20231 yr by Nairobi_Demon

Afternoon boys. What a weekend. Dees win, freo lose and Essendon embarrassed! 

Before I get to my point, 

Binman - your rant last week over comments made my David King and Nathan Buckley was music to my ears. Every weeks these peanuts in the media make ridiculous click bate comments and are never ever held accountable. Jeez it winds me up and I absolutely feel your pain. 

Speaking of the media, a lot being said that the Grundy / Gawn experiment hasn’t worked and some even saying Grundy will be at another club next year which is just hilarious.

In my humble, Grundy was brought in to share the ruck load as big Maxy was clearly burnt out towards the end of last year, and also in case of an injury to max, we’d still have an All Australian ruckman in the team - as was the case in round 2 against Brisbane. 

This year Max has a partner in crime to help him out meaning he’s stayed fresher and ready to explode in the final third of the season. Exhibit A Friday night. 

Whether Grundy can develop as a forward only time will tell, can’t see it personally but a least it will keep the pressure on brown and JVR to perform each week.  I can see Grundy coming back into the team in a few weeks time to give Maxy a chop out again just before finals.

Over to you lads for your thoughts.

Edited post for Andy: (Final, pls ignore prev post, I’d delete it if I could but work meant I had to stop & start edit which made it almost unreadable 😞)

I just wanted to say my bit to align to Binman’s 2023 rhetoric — which is spot-on!!!

Boy, I’m so charged to have a coaching panel that’s being SMARTER in 2023 & fooling the moronic, forcibly vitriolic & reactive mainstream-media-bots w/their mediocrity & reactive mentality into having zero idea as to what MFC are building, not to mention the fact Clarry is gonna be cherry-ripe, that Selwyn has the boys super fit & more-dangerously the point — has them believing in that Aerobic excellence to the point where we sense we can beat anyone if in the game in last qtr!!! Buckley even tried to back over his verbal-faecal-matter LW saying for large part of the game he was right about MFC “fighting to make finals” despite us only being a victim to brilliance + some of the best kicking i’ve seen in 35+ years of footy! We rode it out & came home with confidence, belief & as Binman & I concur — this innate belief throughout the coaching & playing group is coming to the fore now, despite not having 2 of our absolute best & adroit players. That’s what concession can do (expected score has us +26 to expected btw)

So I’m interested in each of you opening up on how you sre taking that last 12m & if you see it being let-loose now or kept in the tool-kit? I think we brought it out earlier than we’d of liked but wow, what a show! DON’T SLEEP on fact we missed 4 PRIME opportunities earlier in qtr (Brown missed mark in square, Max miss early in qtr, Nibs miss, Roo chance at end of qtr & more) & the ONLY Lions goal was from a wrongly adjudicated free. All this against a team in-form, firing & playing their best footy (that won’t stand up in finals, as it needs to be too perfect to come thru).
 

It’ll be intriguing to see if SG locks away this beast-mode or will he now back us to maintain it for 6wks & Finals? My thought is that it’s prob still too early to let cat out of bag, as teams can study it & try to combat it & show other teams a “how-to” guide, risky! Will we go back to 80% beast-mode & only break-glass if needed?

May still a worry, back 100% worrying him & fwd-line for me still needs to be worked out (FWIW: Grundy will play 35% Ruck & rest fwd/bench 60/40 — alongside a fwd line of the following: BBB (the vacuum), JVR, Fritta, Melk, Kossie, Nibbs & Trac that’s the fwd line, (yes it’s 8 players as that’s how fwd/bk teams work in modern footy folks due to rotations (bench) & rotations (rotate on-field) before I get apoplectic induced nibbles from tribe) only other combo is Tommo in & Petty fwd, but that’s in-shed atm!

Keep up the great work. PS The Grundy narrative is just so moronic & delivered with false temerity that I’m at a loss to even begin to challenge it such is the lunacy & lack of common sense in some of the commentary. Grundy is NOT going anywhere, he WILL play Finals & the last 2-3 H&A games as it’s all sort of the bigger picture folks & shows the hegemony of our Club.
 

Lastly, love to know if you felt THAT coming as I did, ie you were seeing Brisbane’s fear with them locking thing a up & seemingly worried bout our firepwr & fitness knowing they couldn’t keep playing that perfect OR if — like I would of been 4y ago  — were you tossing out bubs with its dirty bath water?

 @binman How much SHOULD SG let the boys go now Ala prev yrs or does he cont to hold back until its too short a time period for clubs to react & makes it less weeks we have to keep the momentum up? I’m sure you’ll unpack what this beast-mode looked like but to see our normal DNA in there, w/just those small —yet beautiful & largely unseen prior to now —adjustments of: creating more space in the hit-zone (where we either mark or create stoppage) w/some late, smartly held leading patterns that don’t rely on blocks ergo aren’t obvious, added urgency on Ball-carrier to be on move (w/run by bball, Shepard for man coming to contest w/speed etc that’s clearly instructed to BURST once they control loose-ball, break-lines thru halfway to d50 & look for 15-20m hit up thats designed to get deeper entry @speed etc etc — This Is what I’ve been waiting for & we got it in spades. That stuff isn’t instinct, it’s practiced & it verifies loads of pre-season focus, that’s the exciting part —- it means it’s been clearly HELD-BACK!!!

Clubs need a LOT of luck to win a flag folks so it’s no guarantee… But boy, we’re loaded & ready to explode you can take that to the bank whilst picturing a non-niggle-laden Clarry (which really we’ve never seen before with the power he has now as he’s been banged up for 3 years), absolutely flying R20 onward 🔥🔥🔥

This is a special group guys, so strap in!!! Yes I’m super-positive, an antidote to Andy’s MFCSS, but like Binman - it’s for a reason.. The closer I look at data the more I #believeinthedees 2023 Campaign & relish the strategy behind it.

Yet not one media-bot outside Kornes (who’d of thought) & likely Hoyne will see it for what it is.. a scary scary proposition to handle! Mainstream media: Instead, somehow they all jump on the cats. Which I’m certain Mr Poker-Face himself, Goody — is all the more happy with!!!

Edited July 17, 20231 yr by Nudge
Apologies.

Gents, is everyone looking at the Grundy situation wrong. This time last year gawn was cooked, we get bundled out of finals with gawn looking very tired. Fast forward to 23 and we witness that game from gawn, and we are looking at finals with AFLs #1 ruck fit and firing and a top 4 finish.

Should we stop looking at it as a dual ruck set-up, and more of a support act (albeit quite an expensive investment), and a view to a replacement for gawn in 3-4 years where we will still have trac/oliver prime and the next tier coming through.

There's been a lot of comments about who the most important player on this team is and the consensus seems to be either May or Oliver but is there any one as influential as a firing Max Gawn? 

1. Gawn was able to play how he did because of Grundy’s efforts through the year. Agree?

2. Will BBB make it to finals with his dodgy knees? He seems to start games on fire then fade, possibly for physical reasons. If he doesn’t make it then it would have to be Grundy or Schache because we need the tall.

3. Will Melksham be the unlucky one come September if Fritsch comes good in time?

4. When Pig is healthy how can he fit back in? Even if Petty is out injured he must be replaced by a tall - Tommo. Thoughts?

5. Should Damian Barrett be blown up? Metaphorically of course. So predictable that he (and others) ignore the win and talk about our “disrespect” of Grundy.

As always look forward to the great Pod.

Wondering if you and the panel could analyse where Fremantle is at in terms of their final position to determine where the Luke Jackson draft picks land?

 I put the question to Siri and she replied, “I am not in a position to answer that question.” So much for artificial intelligence.

2 hours ago, Nudge said:

Sorry Andy, I’m fired up this morning & made a meal of the vmail service — 2m thing really threw — might be too late to work into the pod but I just wanted to say my bit to align to Binman’s 2023 rhetoric — which is spot-on!!!

Boy, how excited I am to have a coaching panel that’s being SMARTER in 2023 & fooling the moronic, forcibly vitriolic & reactive mainstream-media-bots w/their mediocrity & reactive mentality into having zero idea as to what MFC are building, not to mention the fact Clarry is gonna be cherry-ripe, that Slewyn has the boys super fit & more-dangerously the point — has them believing in that Aerobic excellence to the point where we sense we can beat anyone if in the game in last qtr!!! Buckley even tried to back over his verbal-faecal-matter LW saying for large part of the game he was right about MFC “fighting to make finals” despite us only being a victim to brilliance + some of the best kicking i’ve seen in 35+ years of footy! We rode it out & came home with confidence, belief & as Binman & I concur — this innate belief throughout the coaching & playing group is coming to the fore now, despite not having 2 of our absolute best & adroit players. That’s what concession can do (expected score has us +26 to expected btw)

So I’m interested in each of you opening up on how you sre taking that last 12m & if you see it being let-loose now or kept in the tool-kit? I think we brought it out earlier than we’d of liked but wow, what a show! DON’T SLEEP on fact we missed 4 PRIME opportunities earlier in qtr (Brown missed mark in square, Max miss early in qtr, Nibs miss, Roo chance at end of qtr & more) & the ONLY Lions goal was from a wrongly adjudicated free. All this against a team in-form, firing & playing their best footy (that won’t stand up in finals, as it needs to be too perfect to come thru).
 

It’ll be intriguing to see if SG locks away this beast-mode or will he now back us to maintain it for 6wks & Finals? My thought is that it’s prob still too early to let cat out of bag, as teams can study it & try to combat it & show other teams a “how-to” guide, risky! Will we go back to 80% beast-mode & only break-glass if needed?

May still a worry, back 100% worrying him & fwd-line for me still needs to be worked out (FWIW: Grundy will play 35% Ruck & rest fwd/bench 60/40 — alongside a fwd line of the following: BBB (the vacuum), JVR, Fritta, Melk, Kossie, Nibbs & Trac that’s the fwd line, (yes it’s 8 players as that’s how fwd/bk teams work in modern footy folks due to rotations (bench) & rotations (rotate on-field) before I get apoplectic induced nibbles from tribe) only other combo is Tommo in & Petty fwd, but that’s in-shed atm!

Keep up the great work. PS The Grundy narrative is just so moronic & delivered with false temerity that I’m at a loss to even begin to challenge it such is the lunacy & lack of common sense in some of the commentary. Grundy is NOT going anywhere, he WILL play Finals & the last 2-3 H&A games as it’s all sort of the bigger picture folks & shows the hegemony of our Club.
 

Lastly, love to know if you felt THAT coming as I did, ie you were seeing Brisbane’s fear with them locking thing a up & seemingly worried bout our firepwr & fitness knowing they couldn’t keep playing that perfect OR if — like I would of been 4y ago  — were you tossing out bubs with its dirty bath water?

 @binman How much SHOULD SG let the boys go now Ala prev yrs or does he cont to hold back until its too short a time period for clubs to react & makes it less weeks we have to keep the momentum up?

Clubs need a LOT of luck to win a flag folks so it’s no guarantee… But boy, we’re loaded & ready to explode you can take that to the bank whilst picturing a non-niggle-laden Clarry (which really we’ve never seen before with the power he has now as he’s been banged up for 3 years), absolutely flying R20 onward 🔥🔥🔥

This is a special group folks, strap in!!! Yes I’m super-positive, an antidote to Andy’s MFCSS, but like Binman - it’s for a reason.. The closer I look at data the more I #believeinthedees 2023 Campaign & relish the strategy behind it.

YET not one media person outside Kornes (who’d of thought) & likely Hoyne will see it for what it is.. a scary scary proposition to handle! Mainstream media: Instead, somehow they all jump on the cats. Which I’m certain Mr Poker-Face himself, Goody — is all the more happy with!!!

Agree with all of this

for the first 15 mins or so brisbane could not penetrate our zone, but once they 'worked it out' they sliced through with relative ease, until the final 15 mins

what changed?

What an amazing come from behind performance Friday night.

George - was our overrunning the Bears in the final quarter vindication of, or result of, our loading?  Were we just so much fitter than they were to run out the whole game.  Of course some in the MSM suggest that they just took it as a win and stepped off the accelerator, which I think is disrespectful to our performance.

It will be interesting IF Fritta gets back this year; also TMcD.  Where will they fit, and who wilt hey displace?  I was very impressed with JVR's contributions, despite being goalless.  His back up ruck work was very important and contributed at at least one goal.

Can any of you envisage Bowey going to a HFF especially if Hibberd gets back - someone will need to vacate a defensive spot.  IMVHO he could fill the Spargo role, +++.  Good kick, good one on one and wins quite a lot of ball.  Thoughts.

Edited July 17, 20231 yr by monoccular