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Things I am desperate to see:

  1. A win
  2. No injuries

Things I want to see but will forego if I get the above:

  1. Better accuracy
  2. More fluent ball movement
  3. A lesser forward half press with defenders sitting further back
  4. A reduction in our desire to have repeat stoppages in the forward 50
  5. Pickett and Brown to look a million bucks
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    I missed the boat in the pregame thread to respond to @A F, so I'll respond here.

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    Well, we went to the pockets against Geelong too, but more often than not, we seemed to go to the 25m hot spot.

    I'd love it if someone was actually able to back that up statistically. Is this data something you have access to @WheeloRatings?

    Yes, this is something I have access to. I have looked at the locations of the result of kicks inside 50 and categorised them according to distance (0-20m, 20-35m, 35m+) and corridor v pocket. To determine the corridor, I extend the centre square to the 50m arc and then draw a line from that point to the goal posts.

    Melbourne has gone to the 'hot spot' (20-35m out in the corridor) about 26% each of the time the last three matches, up from 20% for the season. We are far more likely to go to the hot spot in the third quarter.

    The last table below shows that you are more likely to turn the ball over kicking to 20+ metres out in the corridor than  kicking to the pocket, which is something that @binman has spoken about quite a bit.

    Location of Kicks Inside 50, Melbourne 2023, by Round

    Round Corridor Pocket
    0-20m 20-35m 35+ 0-20m 20-35m 35+
    1 9.4 22.6 5.7 3.8 28.3 30.2
    2 15.9 18.2 15.9 6.8 18.2 25.0
    3 6.0 28.0 8.0 4.0 28.0 26.0
    4 19.6 25.5 9.8 3.9 23.5 17.6
    5 5.0 17.5 30.0 2.5 22.5 22.5
    6 8.5 14.9 14.9 6.4 23.4 31.9
    7 17.6 9.8 21.6 3.9 21.6 25.5
    8 8.3 33.3 18.8 4.2 6.2 29.2
    9 21.4 12.5 19.6 3.6 17.9 25.0
    10 7.1 19.0 31.0 0.0 14.3 28.6
    11 12.5 18.8 22.9 4.2 22.9 18.8
    12 5.7 7.5 13.2 7.5 32.1 34.0
    13 13.2 26.4 17.0 0.0 17.0 26.4
    15 15.2 26.1 13.0 4.3 10.9 30.4
    16 9.7 25.8 14.5 3.2 21.0 25.8

    Location of Kicks Inside 50, Melbourne 2023, by Quarter

    Period Corridor Pocket
    0-20m 20-35m 35+ 0-20m 20-35m 35+
    1 11.6 15.1 13.4 4.7 24.4 30.8
    2 9.3 19.8 16.3 3.5 19.8 31.4
    3 12.4 27.8 18.0 2.6 19.1 20.1
    4 13.6 18.4 18.4 4.9 19.9 24.8

    Location of Kicks Inside 50, 2023, by Team

    Team Corridor Pocket
    0-20m 20-35m 35+ 0-20m 20-35m 35+
    St Kilda 8.0 27.8 19.4 2.0 19.8 23.0
    Essendon 10.7 26.5 19.1 4.0 18.5 21.1
    Greater Western Sydney 10.6 24.4 21.2 3.9 18.1 21.8
    North Melbourne 7.5 24.0 25.1 4.4 18.9 20.1
    Gold Coast 11.2 23.9 18.8 4.4 20.0 21.7
    Port Adelaide 9.0 23.4 23.7 3.6 17.4 22.8
    Sydney 11.7 23.3 23.3 4.6 15.4 21.6
    Fremantle 7.0 22.5 22.3 4.1 22.3 21.7
    Hawthorn 9.3 22.0 21.7 4.3 21.2 21.5
    Collingwood 12.5 21.2 17.7 5.5 16.5 26.6
    Western Bulldogs 9.9 20.6 13.8 5.7 23.3 26.8
    Adelaide 9.6 20.5 20.7 3.4 18.6 27.2
    Melbourne 11.8 20.4 16.7 3.9 20.7 26.5
    Geelong 7.4 20.2 19.9 4.0 21.0 27.4
    Carlton 9.3 19.9 16.6 5.4 20.5 28.2
    Richmond 9.4 19.7 18.6 5.6 22.9 23.8
    Brisbane 9.8 18.4 15.2 6.6 23.6 26.4
    West Coast 8.0 17.4 19.0 5.2 24.7 25.8

    Location of Kicks Inside 50, 2021-2023, by Chain Result

    Result Corridor Pocket
    0-20m 20-35m 35+ 0-20m 20-35m 35+
    Score 51.7 33.9 33.2 44.7 29.3 30.0
    Stoppage 11.6 12.5 9.6 24.3 25.2 19.9
    Turnover 36.7 53.5 57.2 31.0 45.5 50.1

     

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    6 hours ago, buck_nekkid said:

    WIll be interesting to see our f50 set up.  Petty can swing there.  jack or Trac could also set up there.  Woey to play high half forward and to act as second winger. Think we are a 25% better talent pool than them, especially with their outs.  Need to smash them early and ensure both teams get the script.  Proper kicking - 35 point win,  Shizen kicking - 4 point win.

    Can't afford JV off the ball with Oliver out and Trac can't kick goals. Not sure we can cover Petty moving fwd although we certainly need another tall there. 

     
    6 minutes ago, WheeloRatings said:

    I missed the boat in the pregame thread to respond to @A F, so I'll respond here.

    Yes, this is something I have access to. I have looked at the locations of the result of kicks inside 50 and categorised them according to distance (0-20m, 20-35m, 35m+) and corridor v pocket. To determine the corridor, I extend the centre square to the 50m arc and then draw a line from that point to the goal posts.

    Melbourne has gone to the 'hot spot' (20-35m out in the corridor) about 26% each of the time the last three matches, up from 20% for the season. We are far more likely to go to the hot spot in the third quarter.

    The last table below shows that you are more likely to turn the ball over kicking to 20+ metres out in the corridor than  kicking to the pocket, which is something that @binman has spoken about quite a bit.

    Location of Kicks Inside 50, Melbourne 2023, by Round

    Round Corridor Pocket
    0-20m 20-35m 35+ 0-20m 20-35m 35+
    1 9.4 22.6 5.7 3.8 28.3 30.2
    2 15.9 18.2 15.9 6.8 18.2 25.0
    3 6.0 28.0 8.0 4.0 28.0 26.0
    4 19.6 25.5 9.8 3.9 23.5 17.6
    5 5.0 17.5 30.0 2.5 22.5 22.5
    6 8.5 14.9 14.9 6.4 23.4 31.9
    7 17.6 9.8 21.6 3.9 21.6 25.5
    8 8.3 33.3 18.8 4.2 6.2 29.2
    9 21.4 12.5 19.6 3.6 17.9 25.0
    10 7.1 19.0 31.0 0.0 14.3 28.6
    11 12.5 18.8 22.9 4.2 22.9 18.8
    12 5.7 7.5 13.2 7.5 32.1 34.0
    13 13.2 26.4 17.0 0.0 17.0 26.4
    15 15.2 26.1 13.0 4.3 10.9 30.4
    16 9.7 25.8 14.5 3.2 21.0 25.8

    Location of Kicks Inside 50, Melbourne 2023, by Quarter

    Period Corridor Pocket
    0-20m 20-35m 35+ 0-20m 20-35m 35+
    1 11.6 15.1 13.4 4.7 24.4 30.8
    2 9.3 19.8 16.3 3.5 19.8 31.4
    3 12.4 27.8 18.0 2.6 19.1 20.1
    4 13.6 18.4 18.4 4.9 19.9 24.8

    Location of Kicks Inside 50, 2023, by Team

    Team Corridor Pocket
    0-20m 20-35m 35+ 0-20m 20-35m 35+
    St Kilda 8.0 27.8 19.4 2.0 19.8 23.0
    Essendon 10.7 26.5 19.1 4.0 18.5 21.1
    Greater Western Sydney 10.6 24.4 21.2 3.9 18.1 21.8
    North Melbourne 7.5 24.0 25.1 4.4 18.9 20.1
    Gold Coast 11.2 23.9 18.8 4.4 20.0 21.7
    Port Adelaide 9.0 23.4 23.7 3.6 17.4 22.8
    Sydney 11.7 23.3 23.3 4.6 15.4 21.6
    Fremantle 7.0 22.5 22.3 4.1 22.3 21.7
    Hawthorn 9.3 22.0 21.7 4.3 21.2 21.5
    Collingwood 12.5 21.2 17.7 5.5 16.5 26.6
    Western Bulldogs 9.9 20.6 13.8 5.7 23.3 26.8
    Adelaide 9.6 20.5 20.7 3.4 18.6 27.2
    Melbourne 11.8 20.4 16.7 3.9 20.7 26.5
    Geelong 7.4 20.2 19.9 4.0 21.0 27.4
    Carlton 9.3 19.9 16.6 5.4 20.5 28.2
    Richmond 9.4 19.7 18.6 5.6 22.9 23.8
    Brisbane 9.8 18.4 15.2 6.6 23.6 26.4
    West Coast 8.0 17.4 19.0 5.2 24.7 25.8

    Location of Kicks Inside 50, 2021-2023, by Chain Result

    Result Corridor Pocket
    0-20m 20-35m 35+ 0-20m 20-35m 35+
    Score 51.7 33.9 33.2 44.7 29.3 30.0
    Stoppage 11.6 12.5 9.6 24.3 25.2 19.9
    Turnover 36.7 53.5 57.2 31.0 45.5 50.1

     

    How much more likely though to kick a sausage from the corridor as opposed the pockets.

    It's not, imo, about having the ball, its being productive with it.

    Grand effort on your stuff . Cheers 

     

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    We'll win, but it won't cure the MFCSS pandemic in here. You must all be fun at parties.

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    2 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

    You must all be fun at parties.

    Jokes on you Clint.

    I haven’t been invited to a party in years.

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    7 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

    How much more likely though to kick a sausage from the corridor as opposed the pockets.

    It's not, imo, about having the ball, its being productive with it.

    Grand effort on your stuff . Cheers 

     

    Yes, that is true! I'd need to look at chains following a stoppage to see the eventual outcome, but yes, you are more likely to score a goal from a shot in the corridor compared to the pocket:

    Result Corridor Pocket
    0-20m 20-35m 35+ 0-20m 20-35m 35+
    Goal 79.8 58.3 48.2 53.8 42.3 36.6
    Behind 14.6 29.3 37.0 31.9 39.5 39.6
    No Score 5.6 12.4 14.8 14.3 18.2 23.7
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    9 minutes ago, WheeloRatings said:

    I missed the boat in the pregame thread to respond to @A F, so I'll respond here.

    Yes, this is something I have access to. I have looked at the locations of the result of kicks inside 50 and categorised them according to distance (0-20m, 20-35m, 35m+) and corridor v pocket. To determine the corridor, I extend the centre square to the 50m arc and then draw a line from that point to the goal posts.

    Melbourne has gone to the 'hot spot' (20-35m out in the corridor) about 26% each of the time the last three matches, up from 20% for the season. We are far more likely to go to the hot spot in the third quarter.

    The last table below shows that you are more likely to turn the ball over kicking to 20+ metres out in the corridor than  kicking to the pocket, which is something that @binman has spoken about quite a bit.

    Location of Kicks Inside 50, Melbourne 2023, by Round

    Round Corridor Pocket
    0-20m 20-35m 35+ 0-20m 20-35m 35+
    1 9.4 22.6 5.7 3.8 28.3 30.2
    2 15.9 18.2 15.9 6.8 18.2 25.0
    3 6.0 28.0 8.0 4.0 28.0 26.0
    4 19.6 25.5 9.8 3.9 23.5 17.6
    5 5.0 17.5 30.0 2.5 22.5 22.5
    6 8.5 14.9 14.9 6.4 23.4 31.9
    7 17.6 9.8 21.6 3.9 21.6 25.5
    8 8.3 33.3 18.8 4.2 6.2 29.2
    9 21.4 12.5 19.6 3.6 17.9 25.0
    10 7.1 19.0 31.0 0.0 14.3 28.6
    11 12.5 18.8 22.9 4.2 22.9 18.8
    12 5.7 7.5 13.2 7.5 32.1 34.0
    13 13.2 26.4 17.0 0.0 17.0 26.4
    15 15.2 26.1 13.0 4.3 10.9 30.4
    16 9.7 25.8 14.5 3.2 21.0 25.8

    Location of Kicks Inside 50, Melbourne 2023, by Quarter

    Period Corridor Pocket
    0-20m 20-35m 35+ 0-20m 20-35m 35+
    1 11.6 15.1 13.4 4.7 24.4 30.8
    2 9.3 19.8 16.3 3.5 19.8 31.4
    3 12.4 27.8 18.0 2.6 19.1 20.1
    4 13.6 18.4 18.4 4.9 19.9 24.8

    Location of Kicks Inside 50, 2023, by Team

    Team Corridor Pocket
    0-20m 20-35m 35+ 0-20m 20-35m 35+
    St Kilda 8.0 27.8 19.4 2.0 19.8 23.0
    Essendon 10.7 26.5 19.1 4.0 18.5 21.1
    Greater Western Sydney 10.6 24.4 21.2 3.9 18.1 21.8
    North Melbourne 7.5 24.0 25.1 4.4 18.9 20.1
    Gold Coast 11.2 23.9 18.8 4.4 20.0 21.7
    Port Adelaide 9.0 23.4 23.7 3.6 17.4 22.8
    Sydney 11.7 23.3 23.3 4.6 15.4 21.6
    Fremantle 7.0 22.5 22.3 4.1 22.3 21.7
    Hawthorn 9.3 22.0 21.7 4.3 21.2 21.5
    Collingwood 12.5 21.2 17.7 5.5 16.5 26.6
    Western Bulldogs 9.9 20.6 13.8 5.7 23.3 26.8
    Adelaide 9.6 20.5 20.7 3.4 18.6 27.2
    Melbourne 11.8 20.4 16.7 3.9 20.7 26.5
    Geelong 7.4 20.2 19.9 4.0 21.0 27.4
    Carlton 9.3 19.9 16.6 5.4 20.5 28.2
    Richmond 9.4 19.7 18.6 5.6 22.9 23.8
    Brisbane 9.8 18.4 15.2 6.6 23.6 26.4
    West Coast 8.0 17.4 19.0 5.2 24.7 25.8

    Location of Kicks Inside 50, 2021-2023, by Chain Result

    Result Corridor Pocket
    0-20m 20-35m 35+ 0-20m 20-35m 35+
    Score 51.7 33.9 33.2 44.7 29.3 30.0
    Stoppage 11.6 12.5 9.6 24.3 25.2 19.9
    Turnover 36.7 53.5 57.2 31.0 45.5 50.1

     

    Fascinating data wheello.

    Contradicts somewhat the idea that out inaccuracy is caused by our entries ie that we are having heaps of difficult shots becuase we have been kicking to the pockets more

    An interesting stat from the last 4 games is the percentage of shots from the pocket but from 35 meters plus. It is those shots that are the most likely to miss the shots.

    There has been a slight increase it seems from our season average of such shots in the last 4 games.

    I think in part that could be explained by tow interacted elements:

    • we are not moving the ball at speed and so are not creating free players inside 50 
    • our territory and inside 50 dominance means the ball is trapped in our front half a lot, which creates a super congested forward area 9and few free players to spot up) and shots from near the 50 metre arc from intercepts marks from dump clearing kicks from oppo defenders 

    When we start moving the  ball quicker i expect there will be less kicks from the pockets and 35 plus metres out.

    On the data for the last four rounds, it is important to consider how wet it was in the cats and giants games. 

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    20 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

    We'll win, but it won't cure the MFCSS pandemic in here. You must all be fun at parties.

    I’m awesome at parties

    Dees by 42

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    10 minutes ago, binman said:

    Fascinating data wheello.

    Contradicts somewhat the idea that out inaccuracy is caused by our entries ie that we are having heaps of difficult shots becuase we have been kicking to the pockets more

    An interesting stat from the last 4 games is the percentage of shots from the pocket but from 35 meters plus. It is those shots that are the most likely to miss the shots.

    There has been a slight increase it seems from our season average of such shots in the last 4 games.

    I think in part that could be explained by tow interacted elements:

    • we are not moving the ball at speed and so are not creating free players inside 50 
    • our territory and inside 50 dominance means the ball is trapped in our front half a lot, which creates a super congested forward area 9and few free players to spot up) and shots from near the 50 metre arc from intercepts marks from dump clearing kicks from oppo defenders 

    When we start moving the  ball quicker i expect there will be less kicks from the pockets and 35 plus metres out.

    On the data for the last four rounds, it is important to consider how wet it was in the cats and giants games. 

    Rubbish...  it simply predicts two things really..  you may retain the ball more in a pocket...and youre far more likely to score in the corridor. 

    Pleased dont offef up the falacy that greater retention = scoring.

    This is the greatest furphy of all...

    Its about efficiency and accuracy.

    You may not have ir as much where youd like it...but youll score higher.

    Stangely the game is about the latter not the former. 

    The best teams over history are the ones that dont stuff around.

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    19 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

    We'll win, but it won't cure the MFCSS pandemic in here. You must all be fun at parties.

    I'm interstate, don't own a television so I rely on the GameDay threads to see how the matches go and I swear I'm back in the Neeld era every week.

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    11 minutes ago, binman said:

    Fascinating data wheello.

    Contradicts somewhat the idea that out inaccuracy is caused by our entries ie that we are having heaps of difficult shots becuase we have been kicking to the pockets more

    An interesting stat from the last 4 games is the percentage of shots from the pocket but from 35 meters plus. It is those shots that are the most likely to miss the shots.

    There has been a slight increase it seems from our season average of such shots in the last 4 games.

    I think in part that could be explained by tow interacted elements:

    • we are not moving the ball at speed and so are not creating free players inside 50 
    • our territory and inside 50 dominance means the ball is trapped in our front half a lot, which creates a super congested forward area 9and few free players to spot up) and shots from near the 50 metre arc from intercepts marks from dump clearing kicks from oppo defenders 

    When we start moving the  ball quicker i expect there will be less kicks from the pockets and 35 plus metres out.

    On the data for the last four rounds, it is important to consider how wet it was in the cats and giants games. 

    Sorry I should clarify that those figures relate to where we're kicking to when we're going inside 50, but not necessarily resulting in a shot at goal.

    Here are the locations of our shots at goal by round.

    Shots at goal location, Melbourne 2023, by Round

    Round Corridor Pocket
    0-20m 20-35m 35+ 0-20m 20-35m 35+
    1 16.7 10.0 20.0 10.0 20.0 23.3
    2 28.6 4.8 14.3 0.0 9.5 42.9
    3 3.0 30.3 18.2 6.1 9.1 33.3
    4 12.5 21.9 25.0 6.2 12.5 21.9
    5 4.0 8.0 28.0 4.0 12.0 44.0
    6 11.5 19.2 15.4 0.0 7.7 46.2
    7 13.3 13.3 23.3 6.7 16.7 26.7
    8 7.7 15.4 34.6 3.8 15.4 23.1
    9 10.3 24.1 27.6 0.0 10.3 27.6
    10 13.0 17.4 30.4 8.7 13.0 17.4
    11 0.0 11.5 42.3 7.7 15.4 23.1
    12 11.1 0.0 22.2 7.4 25.9 33.3
    13 3.6 7.1 32.1 7.1 7.1 42.9
    15 22.7 27.3 4.5 0.0 22.7 22.7
    16 7.7 15.4 26.9 7.7 26.9 15.4
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    2 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

    Rubbish...  it simply predicts two things really..  you may retain the ball more in a pocket...and youre far more likely to score in the corridor. 

    Pleased dont offef up the falacy that greater retention = scoring.

    This is the greatest furphy of all...

    Its about efficiency and accuracy.

    You may not have ir as much where youd like it...but youll score higher.

    Stangely the game is about the latter not the former. 

    The best teams over history are the ones that dont stuff around.

    What the hell is this?

    Are you responding to the right post?

    Or have you really misinterpreted and/or misrepresented what i wrote so wildly?

    Note: i don't really care which of the above it is, but if the latter save your legs, as i'm not going to go to the effort to explain why you have got it so wrong. 

    Will we win today?

    YES!

    Why? Because we have to. Otherwise I will remove my TV from the wall and throw it out the window.

    Bartender, pour me another drink!

    SN34 

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    4 minutes ago, WheeloRatings said:

    Sorry I should clarify that those figures relate to where we're kicking to when we're going inside 50, but not necessarily resulting in a shot at goal.

    Here are the locations of our shots at goal by round.

    Shots at goal location, Melbourne 2023, by Round

    Round Corridor Pocket
    0-20m 20-35m 35+ 0-20m 20-35m 35+
    1 16.7 10.0 20.0 10.0 20.0 23.3
    2 28.6 4.8 14.3 0.0 9.5 42.9
    3 3.0 30.3 18.2 6.1 9.1 33.3
    4 12.5 21.9 25.0 6.2 12.5 21.9
    5 4.0 8.0 28.0 4.0 12.0 44.0
    6 11.5 19.2 15.4 0.0 7.7 46.2
    7 13.3 13.3 23.3 6.7 16.7 26.7
    8 7.7 15.4 34.6 3.8 15.4 23.1
    9 10.3 24.1 27.6 0.0 10.3 27.6
    10 13.0 17.4 30.4 8.7 13.0 17.4
    11 0.0 11.5 42.3 7.7 15.4 23.1
    12 11.1 0.0 22.2 7.4 25.9 33.3
    13 3.6 7.1 32.1 7.1 7.1 42.9
    15 22.7 27.3 4.5 0.0 22.7 22.7
    16 7.7 15.4 26.9 7.7 26.9 15.4

    Ta.

    Doesn't change the analysis that there is only slight increase in the percentage of shots from the pockets in the last 4 games over our season average, and that therefore our inaccuracy in the last few weeks can't be explained by us taking a lot more difficult shots. 

    In fact, the the cats game we had the second highest percentage of shots from dead in front 20-35 meters of any game his season (only behind the 30.3% of shots from from the corridor 20-35 meters in our mauling of the Swans in round 3)

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    3 hours ago, binman said:

    All top deck usually. Or at least top deck behind each goal.

    Each goal we get I will be singing loud and strong

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    Ticket question - I just tried to purchase 2 member upgrade tickets then and nothing seems available.  I imagine my daughter and I should be able to show our home & away membership at the gate and sit in general admission.  Surely it is not a sell out?  

    2 minutes ago, Newport34 said:

    Will we win today?

    YES!

    Why? Because we have to. Otherwise I will remove my TV from the wall and throw it out the window.

    Bartender, pour me another drink!

    SN34 

    Pace yourself newie

    I’m going tonight, rarely go to Marvel because it’s a siht hole plain and simple. However the viewing from level 2 is exceptional and a friend got the tickets. People who think we’ll lose simply looking at the last 2 weeks might want to take a peek at our oppositions last 2 matches. The Saints are truly ordinary. We on the other hand are more than handy. Really looking forward to tonight. 
    Go Dee’s, unleash hell upon the Saints.

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    Most important game of the season to date IMO - we really need a win here otherwise too 4 looks extremely unlikely 


    28 minutes ago, binman said:

    What the hell is this?

    Are you responding to the right post?

    Or have you really misinterpreted and/or misrepresented what i wrote so wildly?

    Note: i don't really care which of the above it is, but if the latter save your legs, as i'm not going to go to the effort to explain why you have got it so wrong. 

    You dont like being challenged eh.

    Go back and read again. Its not that complicated though you love to make everything exactly that.

    Or not.. 

     

    So tonight Neal Bullen and kozzie need to lift.

    Trac needs to convert those shots into goals. A player if his standard should do better.

    Also excited to see what Taj can do

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    4 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

    I got $10 tickets thru the Demon Army which is level 1 wing, for those not wanting to sit on the top level. Also good cause to support our friend @WalkingCivilWar 😉
    (It’s for the seat only you still need a ticket or membership to get in)

    I’m glad you got those tickets, especially through us. St Kilda is usually generous with the number of tickets they allow us but not so today for whatever reason. 🤷‍♀️ 

     

     

    9 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

    I’m glad you got those tickets, especially through us. St Kilda is usually generous with the number of tickets they allow us but not so today for whatever reason. 🤷‍♀️ 

    I would have taken up this offer had I known! I brought a reserved seat for $60.

    It’s an 8 point game as winner goes a game clear in fourth, so we need to win tonight. Saints have some bad outs so no excuses if we lose.

    Looking forward to seeing young Woe and hope he shows a bit of dash and skill.

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      Good evening, Demon fans and welcome back to the Demonland Podcast ... it’s time to discuss this week’s game against the Blues. Will the Demons celebrate Clayton Oliver’s 200th game with a victory? We have a number of callers waiting on line … Leopold Bloom: Carlton and Melbourne are both out of finals contention with six wins and eleven losses, and are undoubtedly the two most underwhelming and disappointing teams of 2025. Both had high expectations at the start of participating and advancing deep into the finals, but instead, they have consistently underperformed and disappointed themselves and their supporters throughout the year. However, I am inclined to give the Demons the benefit of the doubt, as they have made some progress in addressing their issues after a disastrous start. In contrast, the Blues are struggling across the board and do not appear to be making any notable improvements. They are regressing, and a significant loss is looming on Saturday night. Max Gawn in the ruck will be huge and the Demon midfield have a point to prove after lowering their colours in so many close calls.

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    • REPORT: North Melbourne

      I suppose that I should apologise for the title of this piece, but the temptation to go with it was far too great. The memory of how North Melbourne tore Melbourne apart at the seams earlier in the season and the way in which it set the scene for the club’s demise so early in the piece has been weighing heavily upon all of us. This game was a must-win from the club’s perspective, and the team’s response was overwhelming. The 36 point win over Alastair Clarkson’s Kangaroos at the MCG on Sunday was indeed — roovenge of the highest order!

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    • CASEY: Werribee

      The Casey Demons remain in contention for a VFL finals berth following a comprehensive 76-point victory over the Werribee Tigers at Whitten Oval last night. The caveat to the performance is that the once mighty Tigers have been raided of many key players and are now a shadow of the premiership-winning team from last season. The team suffered a blow before the game when veteran Tom McDonald was withdrawn for senior duty to cover for Steven May who is ill.  However, after conceding the first goal of the game, Casey was dominant from ten minutes in until the very end and despite some early errors and inaccuracy, they managed to warm to the task of dismantling the Tigers with precision, particularly after half time when the nominally home side provided them with minimal resistance.

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    • PREGAME: Carlton

      The Demons return to the MCG as the the visiting team on Saturday night to take on the Blues who are under siege after 4 straight losses. Who comes in and who goes out?

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    • PODCAST: North Melbourne

      The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 14th July @ 8:00pm. Join Binman & I as we dissect the Dees glorious win over the Kangaroos at the MCG.
      Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show.
      Listen LIVE: https://demonland.com/

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    • POSTGAME: North Melbourne

      The Demons are finally back at the MCG and finally back on the winners list as they continually chipped away at a spirited Kangaroos side eventually breaking their backs and opening the floodgates to run out winners by 6 goals.

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