On 12/06/2023 at 13:57, jnrmac said:

Ch 7 showed him sitting in the box today

There are some photos on one of the Facebook groups of Oliver running laps on the MCG after the game.

  On 12/06/2023 at 08:16, Redleg said:

David King before the game said Dees no chance and Pies will win, now after the game said he said all along Pies were ripe for the picking.

Does he listen to what he says?

Back in 2011 he said before the finals that Geelong were making up the numbers.

After he said that Geelong were primed and were always going to challenge Collingwood.

 

I stopped listening to him at that point.

 

As for the game, history won't tell how good we were; how we controlled the game for 90% time, just like the Carlton game. Anyone thinking it was a close game, other than the scoreboard, didn't watch it.

 

Oh and great to see Salo back. So very calm under whatever pressure.

  On 12/06/2023 at 12:20, binman said:

He looked gone.

I was watching him come off and it looked all the world he had dislocated his shoulder. Maybe he did!

He is a serious unit when he plays like he did today. Which is how he plays every big game.

Bugger being his opponent.

He would have had a jab, hope it is nothing too serious when it wears off. He was holding his kid on his left side during the team song which was great for a number of reasons

  On 12/06/2023 at 14:49, A F said:

I wasn't sure where to put this, so I'll put it here.

Gus started the game horribly, including being responsible for Crisp at the stoppage in D50 when Crisp goalled. 

Gus then worked himself into the game and had a couple of important clearances.

The final Collingwood goal from a D50 stoppage though, Gus is again responsible for Daicos. And like the Crisp D50 stoppage goal, Gus was left ball-watching or simply too slow.

I worry about Gus, because I'm not sure there's a position for him when we have both wings covered, Salem back in the team and Oliver back in the team.

He's a good reader of the play, but he's not quick and he's not a good user by foot either. He's wonderfully courageous, but I do wonder where he fits when/if we're at full strength.

Is it just me?

I feel the same, I can't see anything he can give to our list that we don't already have.

As you said, wings are covered.

Our half back line looks very premium with Bowey, McVee, Salem and Rivers.

What we actually need is a player in the mid-field with elite foot skills. Gus unfortunately is not an elite kick.

  On 12/06/2023 at 16:28, Uncle Fester said:

Back in 2011 he said before the finals that Geelong were making up the numbers.

After he said that Geelong were primed and were always going to challenge Collingwood.

 

I stopped listening to him at that point.

 

As for the game, history won't tell how good we were; how we controlled the game for 90% time, just like the Carlton game. Anyone thinking it was a close game, other than the scoreboard, didn't watch it.

 

Oh and great to see Salo back. So very calm under whatever pressure.

Just like young McVee.

Just finished watching the game.  Fantastic stuff.  With the exception of the first 15min, we really dominated.  Suffocated their game.  Could have won by a lot more. A few observations:

• Our pressure and toughness was incredible, all around the ground. 
• We exposed them on the rebound but could have been more damaging
• Viney immense
• Gawn's marking back
• Fritsch clearly has gears
• Love having Salem back in the team
• Backline were in all in sync
• Loved Hibberd's work - clearly refreshed for this week
• Was it Sparrow who took N Daicos out of the game?
• Darcy Moore is very impressive

Did the Dees just lay down a blueprint for beating the Pies?  Will be interesting to see where they are at the end of round 19 after playing the Crows, Suns, Dogs, Dockers and Port.

 

Edited June 12, 20231 yr by Nairobi_Demon

  On 12/06/2023 at 18:32, ElDiablo14 said:

I feel the same, I can't see anything he can give to our list that we don't already have.

As you said, wings are covered.

Our half back line looks very premium with Bowey, McVee, Salem and Rivers.

What we actually need is a player in the mid-field with elite foot skills. Gus unfortunately is not an elite kick.

When the time is right, mcvee should go thru the middle to see what he can do. Likely next season. Has speed would be suited there and give us another. And what happened to kossie having spells in the middle, he was great early in the year and helps him get into games

  On 12/06/2023 at 18:38, Nairobi_Demon said:

Just finished watching the game.  Fantastic stuff.  With the exception of the first 15min, we really dominated.  Suffocated their game.  Could have won by a lot more. A few observations:

• Our pressure and toughness was incredible, all around the game. 
• We exposed them on the rebound but could have been more damaging
• Viney immense
• Gawn's marking back
• Fritsch clearly has gears
• Love having Salem back in the team
• Backline were in all in sync
• Loved Hibberd's work - clearly refreshed for this week
• Was it Sparrow who took N Daicos out of the game?
• Darcy Moore is very impressive

Did the Dees just lay down a blueprint for beating the Pies?  Will be interesting to see where they are at the end of round 19 after playing the Crows, Suns, Dogs, Dockers and Port.

 

l felt the blueprint was laid as well - which is not to be confused, thankfully, with Schwabs red and blue print

  On 12/06/2023 at 15:50, binman said:

Seriously?

All of those players meet your definition of elite kicks?

And you don't rate Salem, bowey, hunter, fritter and mcvee as elite kicks?

Not even one of them?

No, I mean seriously, are you serious? 

Don't even mention Hunter.

If it was up to @DeeSpencer Hunter would be currently at Casey.

Just shows how completely out of touch he is with the game and current team dynamic. Hunter was absolutely enormous yesterday and has been great pick up this year.

 

 

Based on yesterday the backline is fixed, now for the forward line

Might have been mentioned already, but yesterday was Tomlinson best game for the club. I thought behind Viney and Salo, he was our best. 
If we can see him continue to build, he will be critical to our success.

I am a Fritsch defender now as he has lifted his defensive intensity enough to help the press. But he is frustrating me with when and how he engages in marking contests. There was one down the city end that he just had to engage the opponent and let JVR run at it and take an easy mark. Instead he had his own fly and it led to a rushed behind from memory. He did that a few times. 

We don’t have the luxury of him not knowing his very niche role anymore. He is our best forward, but not our gorilla. He could be our number one target, but only depending on march ups, he could be played out of the square but he also could be a decoy - that is the life of a medium sized forward with elite nous and skills around goal.

Offensively, he needs to take charge down there and that includes giving up his own opportunities to get others their opportunities. What he did at times on Moore was fantastic and a tactical win for Goodwin, but we will need to be ruthless in the future.

  On 12/06/2023 at 20:40, SPC said:

Might have been mentioned already, but yesterday was Tomlinson best game for the club. I thought behind Viney and Salo, he was our best. 
If we can see him continue to build, he will be critical to our success.

I don’t disagree but let’s just keep in mind how fickle sport can be. If Smith is preferred to petty up forward - that is it for Tomlinson.

  On 12/06/2023 at 11:38, Gawndy the Great said:

I missed out today unfortunately but what was the balance of supporters? It felt like we were there with some numbers as the noise from the Pies supporters wasn’t as loud as I thought it would be on tv. 

It was probably 60-40 Collingwood's way. Maybe 65-35.

  On 12/06/2023 at 20:57, praha said:

It was probably 60-40 Collingwood's way. Maybe 65-35.

Yeah, I reckon 10k Melbourne supporters didn’t come coz they thought we’d lose, and the mean old Pies supporters will yell at them. Boo hoo.

Its our ground isn’t it?

  On 12/06/2023 at 13:39, DeelightfulPlay said:

Just a fun little photo from tonight's game, from the MFC gallery 😊🙏

  On 12/06/2023 at 12:57, Little Goffy said:

Somebody buy this man an ornithopter.

I had to google what an ornithopter actually was. 

Biggest takeaway was we had a game plan that held up against theirs. One that shd be able to be replicated in finals. Executed it super well too. 

  On 12/06/2023 at 18:32, ElDiablo14 said:

I feel the same, I can't see anything he can give to our list that we don't already have.

As you said, wings are covered.

Our half back line looks very premium with Bowey, McVee, Salem and Rivers.

What we actually need is a player in the mid-field with elite foot skills. Gus unfortunately is not an elite kick.

Could Salo play midfield?

  On 12/06/2023 at 21:29, leave it to deever said:

Could Salo play midfield?

Leave him exactly where he is. 

How nice to have a replay to be excited about watching.

  On 12/06/2023 at 15:30, A F said:

But you tend to lean back on your kicks when you're fatigued, so it's interlinked.

The other thing notable was that when reading the AFL ap at half time, it said our 3 goals had all come from 40-50m, while four of Collingwood's five goals had come from 15-30m out. That obviously makes a huge difference with accuracy. 

But this is a ball movement thing that I'd suggest is also linked to fatigue. We go wider and we're happier to go wider during the middle part of the year, and then I suspect we'll start to go more central at the back end of the year.

I noticed right from the start we generally worked harder into the corridor today. It felt good!

  On 12/06/2023 at 21:30, beelzebub said:

Leave him exactly where he is. 

Salo was supreme yesterday.  He's missed a lot of footy and I think a lot of us forgot how important he is. 

Edited June 12, 20231 yr by leave it to deever