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3 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Really? 

Best 22’s are never entirely settled and we bought in Bowser only weeks from finals in 2021 for instance.

 

Because we lost Hunt to injury.

This is an entirely different issue. 

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We need a change to the assistant coaches at the end of the season. Bring in some fresh ideas. The midfield and forwardline especially is not working.    Goodwin is a good off field coach. Play

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Reckon there’s a very very long thread on here already called something like ‘is Goodwin the right guy?’

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Roost it far Redleg

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22 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

We’re paying for the list decisions made in order to win the flag and the list inaction the last 2 years.

Tomlinson was a panic job post 2019 to get a wing. BBB a desperation move to win a flag, it worked, but it really hurts now! Recontracting T Mc. Trading up in the mess of the 2020 draft and taking Laurie now seems a costly mistake!

We traded up to get Holmes but Geelong then took the Tiges pick in front of ours

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11 minutes ago, A F said:

The thing is, let's say one area of the ground goes through the roof in the second half of the year, we win the flag, and the players all credit it with that assistant etc etc.

You're saying, nup, I have an arbitrary 3-5 year rule that assistants must move on, sorry, I know you helped us win two flags in three years and there was a second place finish in there too, but it's off you pop.

You can't be making those sorts of decisions at this stage. Let's give it a month and if nothing has changed, by all means, let's consider these sorts of decisions then.

Recontracting of assistants is done by August I believe so you might actually have to make calls on moving anyone on  sooner rather than later. Not saying we should be doing that though.

Otherwise unless there’s some drastic mid season game plan or personnel shifts that completely change the side I’d say any improvements were down to sustained excellence over years and the players, not short term decisions.

If Yze and Chaplin are going to be senior coaches they need to know more than one area of the ground. If they can’t be flexible they won’t make it in the top jobs.

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6 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

We traded up to get Holmes but Geelong then took the Tiges pick in front of ours

I suspect so too but the result is the same. A gamble of early trades that have been successful but can’t always work. 

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7 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Because we lost Hunt to injury.

This is an entirely different issue. 

Yes, but Bowser stayed in once Hunt was healthy. 

I suspect McVee comes under pressure purely as Gus might have to go back if they stick with Hunter. And I think Chandler is now under the pump.

Otherwise is there doubt on this side being our first picked? 

FB: Hibberd May Bowey?
HB: Rivers Lever Salem
C; Langdon Petracca Hunter
HF: Spargo Petty ANB
FF: Pickett JVR Fritsch
Foll: Gawn Oliver Viney
Int: Grundy Sparrow Gus
Q?: McVee, Chandler, JJ?

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6 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

I suspect so too but the result is the same. A gamble of early trades that have been successful but can’t always work. 

This year should be a strong draft for us and if we can come up with a smart trade or 2 we’ll be back in the game. We need some run and some forward power. 

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9 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Recontracting of assistants is done by August I believe so you might actually have to make calls on moving anyone on  sooner rather than later. Not saying we should be doing that though.

Otherwise unless there’s some drastic mid season game plan or personnel shifts that completely change the side I’d say any improvements were down to sustained excellence over years and the players, not short term decisions.

If Yze and Chaplin are going to be senior coaches they need to know more than one area of the ground. If they can’t be flexible they won’t make it in the top jobs.

Are you suggesting that Yze and Chaplin stay but take different areas of the ground?

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1 minute ago, Roost it far said:

This year should be a strong draft for us and if we can come up with a smart trade or 2 we’ll be back in the game. We need some run and some forward power. 

We're also still in the game...

We're top 4 FFS at Round 11 with the best percentage in the league. Anyone would think we're on the cusp of the 8.

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1 minute ago, DeeSpencer said:

Yes, but Bowser stayed in once Hunt was healthy. 

I suspect McVee comes under pressure purely as Gus might have to go back if they stick with Hunter. And I think Chandler is now under the pump.

Otherwise is there doubt on this side being our first picked? 

FB: Hibberd May Bowey?
HB: Rivers Lever Salem
C; Langdon Petracca Hunter
HF: Spargo Petty ANB
FF: Pickett JVR Fritsch
Foll: Gawn Oliver Viney
Int: Grundy Sparrow Gus
Q?: McVee, Chandler, JJ?

It’s a strong line up

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Are you suggesting that Yze and Chaplin stay but take different areas of the ground?

Correct. Yze played all 3 areas as a player, he can surely offer up new ideas.

Similarly if Chappy can do such great work with our key backs he must have tips for our key forwards. And I think our backline needs a rev up to play with more run and attack

Plus with the cap rising I’d really like to add someone from a different club who can bring new ideas and shed light on tactics to beat us.

Something more than last years change of Mark Williams taking on goal kicking.

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I’m a firm believer that it’s really the coaching team not the head coach that dictates success. 

Hardwick was seen my many as a horrible coach until Balme and Gale brought in an A+ assistant coach team.

Goodwin was a struggling junior coach until we brought in a good team around him. 

I honestly doubt Fly would be the coach he is if Collingwood had not given him a swag of A grade assistant coaches.

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Didn't take a minute to realise this post is laughable. Stupid. Geelong lost again. Sack Scott.

Well Scott has them playing finals and top 4 year in year out. The way things are looking today we may struggle to make the 8. If this becomes another wasted year... How are we going to feel about the whole thing?

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