1 hour ago, rufus said:

Possibly very lucky to be up in the year that the GF and big finals were played away from the MCG. We might well have seen an epic pant[censored] if we had have played a huge final on the MCG if there was a hostile crowd involved. Think it suited us very well to be very far away in 21.

That’s possibly the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever read 

Adding to my earlier post, since the flag in 2021, our best players have declined and our lesser lights have not improved. 
 

if everyone around us gets better (they have) I think we are about where we deserve to be. Better than some, not as good as the best

King on 360 on the money our culture has slipped & watching Gawn go off @ 3/4 time reinforced this. Will be a waste of talent if they all end up as only 1 x premiership, also need to questing Goody & coaching as appears no plan B 

 

I disagree with the hysterical commentary in this thread. We lost because we missed several easy shots on goal. The players played hard and well. We missed Clayton Oliver and Harrison Perry. That is all. 

1 hour ago, The heart beats true said:

This place is nuts today!

Let’s all talk down when we won the Premiership! That is actually insane.

Agree. That’s just dumb. And we backed it up last year, finishing the home and away in 2nd. Poor in finals, yes, but still were leading both finals at various stages. It’s not all doom and gloom, and to suggest our GF win was a fluke is pure nonsense. However, the coaching needs to be put on notice. We need to reinvent aspects of our game. We are being worked out. We have no levers left to pull. 
 

side note, how many midfield attendances for Pickett today? What happened to that plan? 

8 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

That’s possibly the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever read 

You don't read much do you.

Just now, Fork 'em said:

You don't read much do you.

It was pretty ridiculous and I don’t tend to read ridiculous things. I skim this site for a handful of the more thoughtful posters to make up for my blabbering 😂

44 minutes ago, —coach— said:

No idea but at the moment we have the best Demons list I’ve seen I’m my lifetime and for whatever reason we are not getting the best out of them. The boys all credit the hub for bringing them closer which played a role in them winning a premiership. Look how tight the Collingwood boys are, we could use a little of that.

So we have a list ( thoroughly agree )

And cant play to its potential... 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

I wonder  why ... ( actually.....i dont )

Shame this isnt EPL..... in a way....

You could realistically drop 8 players from today.

But rhe truth is there is nobody in the wings.

We lack depth.

I was at the match.

There was never a moment that I thought we'd win. I've seen the movie too many times.

At least I had a nice lunch, and a few drinks, so the day wasn't a total loss.

4 minutes ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

Agree. That’s just dumb. And we backed it up last year, finishing the home and away in 2nd. Poor in finals, yes, but still were leading both finals at various stages. It’s not all doom and gloom, and to suggest our GF win was a fluke is pure nonsense. However, the coaching needs to be put on notice. We need to reinvent aspects of our game. We are being worked out. We have no levers left to pull. 
 

side note, how many midfield attendances for Pickett today? What happened to that plan? 

Because he is not a midfielder...

Just now, demon3165 said:

Because he is not a midfielder...

Seemed to do well in Rd1

5 minutes ago, BW511 said:

Adding to my earlier post, since the flag in 2021, our best players have declined and our lesser lights have not improved.

if everyone around us gets better (they have) I think we are about where we deserve to be. Better than some, not as good as the best

Herein lies the problem @BW511.

Outside of Chandler, Sparrow, Hibba and Petty, not one player has maintained their form, or improved as a footballer, from where they were at the end of 2021. In fact, a fare number have gone backwards. And I have no idea why this is so.

1 hour ago, nedleg said:

Two words: Anthony Burgess. 
 

Was he in The Little Rascals?

20 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

I believe the pies would have beaten the cats, the swans played their grand final the week before, but that's for another day, but tell me where we have  improved from 2021?

2021, we were simply brilliant. You surely can't expect us to replicate that again...?

The threepeat Hawks, Richmond with their flags, they were very similar to us in most of their years. They got it done in the second half of the season and in finals.

3 minutes ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

Seemed to do well in Rd1

lmfao round 1 there we have it he's a midfielder what round are we in now if he was going to be so good t it he would have big midfield time, but does not.

1 hour ago, The heart beats true said:

This place is nuts today!

Let’s all talk down when we won the Premiership! That is actually insane.

It's almost the final frontier to play it down.

2 hours ago, demon3165 said:

Suggest you watch again, JVR does a lot of hard work, but you cannot expect a young player to be a main target when the pill is kicked on top of ones head and always in packs, as for Kossie he is not a midfielder because he does not have the tank nor the body and he does not play that way, forward line player with some great skills but he is not used well.

The only was JVR can stop the frequency of '...pills on top of one's head...' is to bite the bullet, occasionally, and lead out into the wider and shallower areas of the forward line - pick a space or one freed of player movement, signal to your feeder roughly where to place it, run like buggery to receive or tap on, kick the goal or have another deep forward ape your endeavour. Make the play ... not wait to receive!

3 minutes ago, A F said:

2021, we were simply brilliant. You surely can't expect us to replicate that again...?

The threepeat Hawks, Richmond with their flags, they were very similar to us in most of their years. They got it done in the second half of the season and in finals.

I'm just hoping we get it right in the back end. Still time to turn it round and hopefully some other teams have their slip ups.

10 minutes ago, Demonsone said:

King on 360 on the money our culture has slipped & watching Gawn go off @ 3/4 time reinforced this. Will be a waste of talent if they all end up as only 1 x premiership, also need to questing Goody & coaching as appears no plan B 

 

There is some truth to this from what I see, and some of our selfless attitude has faded. Selfish play today cost us, twice in a marking contest close to goal when 2 players went for the same ball and spoilt each other. Happy to point downfield and get someone else to cover a free player than do the gut running to cover. Freo showed us up with their transfer and side run.

Poor finishing in front of goal killed us, how many out on the full did we kick and sometimes we had to stop and wait because we didn't gut run to make the play. Dropped marks in critical spots and times also crueller us.

It is a team game and whilst some individuals are out of form the whole collective is not doin the team thing IMO

3 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

lmfao round 1 there we have it he's a midfielder what round are we in now if he was going to be so good t it he would have big midfield time, but does not.

Is that English? I am merely asking why he hasn’t been used there more often? He was all preseason and in Rd 1, and it all looked good. Got suspended and never saw him in there again. 

Not sure if it has been mentioned, cause I haven’t read every post.. but how bad was JVR taking a mark 45 out and Petracca pleading to him to pass it as we had players free forward and he wouldn’t turn around.. then proceeded to kick a point. Die by the sword.

Just now, layzie said:

It's almost the final frontier to play it down.

It's not talking it down, sides get into the right space right time, again the dogs were thought to be able to do it again but didn't, but they got stuck into thinking will do it again easy, but tell me where have we improved from 21? please tell me i'm all ears?

2 hours ago, layzie said:

But hang on, aren't we the highest scoring team in the comp?

Can't wait for someone to bring that little gem of wisdom up. 

And bringing this up does what exactly?

Some miserable twats on this site. You’d think we’d just lost a final or something.🤡

1 minute ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

Is that English? I am merely asking why he hasn’t been used there more often? He was all preseason and in Rd 1, and it all looked good. Got suspended and never saw him in there again. 

Because he is not a midfielder, no tank no body size, he has pace, some tricks but that's it he should be played deep with room to lead and run onto a pill that's his strength.