TRAINING: Wednesday 26th April, 2023

[kev martin 10,506]

Rehab: Chandler, left knee heavily bandaged, Verral, k.Turner.

Light duties: Fritta, McVee, Hibbo.

Salem out early being put through his paces, joined the main group for drills.

40 players in the main group, including Salem, J.Smith, plenty of noise, fun and some competitive warm-ups and drills.

They finished up with organised goal kicking.

Salem and Spargo still running after the squad left.

Chandler finished his short session with a moderate speed, jog of the oval. 

[Jaded No More 68,974]

Spargo training fully?

[kev martin 10,506]

5 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Spargo training fully?

Lovely movement and skills, full training.

[Demonland 73,277]

36 minutes ago, kev martin said:

Lovely movement and skills, full training.

It should be noted that Spargo joined full training at last Sunday's Captain's Run but left the field near then end when they were doing drills that had a little more contact. Just because he was training doesn't necessarily mean he is fully out of concussion protocols.

[Jaded No More 68,974]

Just now, Demonland said:

It should be noted that Spargo joined full training at last Sunday's Captain's Run but left the field near then end when they were doing drills that had a little more contact. Just because he was training doesn't necessarily mean he is fully out of concussion protocols.

Standard protocol is 12 days right?

Tomorrow is 12 days since the Essendon game. Presumably if he was still not feeling 100% he wouldn't be allowed to train even a little bit. The fact that he is training fully on day 11, means he must be pretty close.

[Demonland 73,277]

1 minute ago, Jaded No More said:

Standard protocol is 12 days right?

Tomorrow is 12 days since the Essendon game. Presumably if he was still not feeling 100% he wouldn't be allowed to train even a little bit. The fact that he is training fully on day 11, means he must be pretty close.

I was surprised he was allowed to train let alone be at the club on Sunday for the Captain's Run.

[Jaded No More 68,974]

6 minutes ago, Demonland said:

I was surprised he was allowed to train let alone be at the club on Sunday for the Captain's Run.

Is the 12 days related to playing or also training?

Maybe it's just about non contact. So he can train, but can't do contact training until tomorrow?

Captains Run is not exactly high intensity. 

[Dee Zephyr 19,269]

How intense was the session @kev martin? 

[In Harmes Way 7,826]

16 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Standard protocol is 12 days right?

Tomorrow is 12 days since the Essendon game. Presumably if he was still not feeling 100% he wouldn't be allowed to train even a little bit. The fact that he is training fully on day 11, means he must be pretty close.

Goody did rule Spargs out for the game against the Roos in the post match presser on Monday night. I'd expect Spargs to be travelling to sunny QLD for a game next week (no intel, just a hunch).

[Roger Mellie 4,148]

7 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Is the 12 days related to playing or also training?

Maybe it's just about non contact. So he can train, but can't do contact training until tomorrow?

Captains Run is not exactly high intensity. 

Goody said he was still experiencing symptoms so wouldn't be considered this week.

[MrFreeze 2,001]

Good to hear Salo's progress

[DeeSpencer 26,098]

20 minutes ago, Demonland said:

I was surprised he was allowed to train let alone be at the club on Sunday for the Captain's Run.

I’m not sure the AFL’s elite concussion protocols are available but you’d think they’d match pretty closely to the community ones.

It’s pretty much rest for 1-2 days, light exercise, rest, skill session, rest, non contact team drills, rest, full training.

Even if he had a few days of symptoms early last week he could’ve progressed to a skills session by Sunday.

https://resources.afl.com.au/afl/document/2021/05/02/2b197edf-0f6f-4004-a3ee-0e0de4425de9/Return-to-Play-Following-Concussion-Checklist-Form.pdf

 

[Gorgoroth 13,144]

Goodwin said Salem was a month away. Glad they are going to take their time with him. Need him for the back half of the season. 
 

[Jaded No More 68,974]

46 minutes ago, Roger Mellie said:

Goody said he was still experiencing symptoms so wouldn't be considered this week.

The post match conference cuts out at 3:50 so I didn't hear him say that.

Very strange he is training. Maybe he felt much better today? 

[Sydee 4,572]

5 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

Goodwin said Salem was a month away. Glad they are going to take their time with him. Need him for the back half of the season. 
 

He missed the first half of last season too - shame because at his best probably our best ball user from HB

[hemingway 7,633]

2 minutes ago, Sydee said:

He missed the first half of last season too - shame because at his best probably our best ball user from HB

That’s the worry. He has missed a lot of footy, both high intensity training and matches. We need him back but we need him back all guns blazing and playing 4Q of footy. Half fit or limited game time is not what the team needs. I would rather go with a fully fit alternative defender like a Turner than a player not 100 percent ready. 

[drysdale demon 4,837]

53 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

Goodwin said Salem was a month away. Glad they are going to take their time with him. Need him for the back half of the season. 
 

He said it on last night.

[Demonland 73,277]

 

[Roost it far 8,906]

So Salem is in full training but Goodwin says he's 4 - 5 weeks away, what am I missing? I'd so love a fit Salem at HB for the last 10 weeks of the season

[deejammin' 2,374]

1 hour ago, Jaded No More said:

The post match conference cuts out at 3:50 so I didn't hear him say that.

Very strange he is training. Maybe he felt much better today? 

I had the same problem, try this:

 

[kev martin 10,506]

2 hours ago, Dee Zephyr said:

How intense was the session @kev martin? 

Good intensity, much more than the usual stretch it out runs. The drills were compact, with 4 stations, and then they all joined together for kick and run through before the goal kicking.

Best thing was the joy.

Lasted about 50 minutes 

No contact, nor anything close to sims. 

 

[IRW 1,388]

3 hours ago, kev martin said:

Lovely movement and skills, full training.

Any more hangers? 

He could coach Kossi

[kev martin 10,506]

30 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

So Salem is in full training but Goodwin says he's 4 - 5 weeks away, what am I missing? I'd so love a fit Salem at HB for the last 10 weeks of the season

Has his own warm-up program and the drills didn't have contact or anything close to 70% effort.

Loved that he is starting to run harder, is doing the resistance and change of direction work.

Edited April 26, 2023 by kev martin

[monoccular 17,612]

30 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

So Salem is in full training but Goodwin says he's 4 - 5 weeks away, what am I missing? I'd so love a fit Salem at HB for the last 10 weeks of the season

One would expect maybe 2 x ½ to ¾ games at Casey plus 2 full games before Salo gets a senior game.  That would give him still enough time to be ready for September action. 

[kev martin 10,506]

9 minutes ago, IRW said:

Any more hangers? 

He could coach Kossi

Spargo stayed firmly on the ground.

Edited April 26, 2023 by kev martin