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13 minutes ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

Adelaide’s Ben was on our list but didn’t play a game

I'm not doubting: was it before or after his Adelaide stint?

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    Ditterich. Twice import, once export

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    Ben Hart was only 17 when he debuted with Adelaide, so I don't reckon he could have been on our list before that.

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    1 hour ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

    Adelaide’s Ben was on our list but didn’t play a game

    Really?

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    4 minutes ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

    No, was wrong 

    You ask my wife: I'm NEVER wrong!

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    2 hours ago, Demonstone said:

    Neither of these played for another VFL team after leaving Melbourne, which I understood to be the qualifier for @Monbon's team.

    well donny played for wa rep side and stuart played for tassy including a win over the vfl. not too shoddy.

    and btw the thread intro says nothing about vfl only/ they look like high profile exports to me.

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    2 hours ago, Winners at last said:

    Perhaps ask my ex wife. Apparently she knows everything!

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    On 4/21/2023 at 8:41 PM, Monbon said:

    Backs: Walsh   Frawley   Hughes

    Half Backs: McLean   Rivers  Spalding

    Centres: Alves   Wells  Lovell

    Half Forwards: Pyke  Hogan  Watts

    Forwards: Farmer    Jakovich    Healey

    Rucks: Jolly, Barassi, Elshaugh

    Bench: Thompson, Dyson, Keenan, Byrne, Charles

     

    Love the topic Monbon but:

    Scott Thompson was far better than a bench player in this side.

    I think Spalding was a better CFH than Hogan and if memory serves me correctly, Earl played in 2 Grand Final sides, including a premership with Carlton in a dominant year.  I like Jessy, but I don't think he's delivered on his potential.  Conversely, while he was arguably a less talented player, Earl squeezed every bit of potential out of himself and was a valuable contributor and performer for two teams right up there at the pointy end of team performance.

    Again nothing particularly against Walsh, but Nathan Bassett was a better player.

    Always loved Martin Pike.  What a beast.  And how many players around in the modern era could claim to have played in 3 different teams and 4 premerships.  If the chips had fallen differently, he could possibly have played in Premierships with the MFC in the early/mid 90s, which was bursting with talent, but just couldn't put it together consistently enough and/or keep it all out on the park long enough to capitalize on it.

     

    Regardless of them being amoung the elites or not, I'm actually generally really enjoying see some of our recient departures like Sauce, Hunt and Jessie in particular get a game and oppertunity to perform at the top level.  I've no real love or hate for Jackson and who knows if he'll be another that got away, but I'll never view him with the same kind of distain as that rat $cully, who despite all the tickets he had on himself, never really justified the huge price he accepted from that scum Sheedy and the goons at the AFL.

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    Surely Brad Miller deserves a mention: far more intimidating than Hogan at CHF and with a rather nice ex wife as well!

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    1 hour ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

    Always loved Martin Pike.  What a beast.  And how many players around in the modern era could claim to have played in 3 different teams and 4 premerships. 

    Pikey actually played for four clubs - us, Fitzroy (swapped for Martin Seecamp), North and Brisbane.

    Just on Nathan Bassett - very good player, but didn't play a senior game with us due to injuries.

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    2 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

    Love the topic Monbon but:

    Scott Thompson was far better than a bench player in this side.

    I think Spalding was a better CFH than Hogan and if memory serves me correctly, Earl played in 2 Grand Final sides, including a premership with Carlton in a dominant year.  I like Jessy, but I don't think he's delivered on his potential.  Conversely, while he was arguably a less talented player, Earl squeezed every bit of potential out of himself and was a valuable contributor and performer for two teams right up there at the pointy end of team performance.

    Again nothing particularly against Walsh, but Nathan Bassett was a better player.

    Always loved Martin Pike.  What a beast.  And how many players around in the modern era could claim to have played in 3 different teams and 4 premerships.  If the chips had fallen differently, he could possibly have played in Premierships with the MFC in the early/mid 90s, which was bursting with talent, but just couldn't put it together consistently enough and/or keep it all out on the park long enough to capitalize on it.

     

    Regardless of them being amoung the elites or not, I'm actually generally really enjoying see some of our recient departures like Sauce, Hunt and Jessie in particular get a game and oppertunity to perform at the top level.  I've no real love or hate for Jackson and who knows if he'll be another that got away, but I'll never view him with the same kind of distain as that rat $cully, who despite all the tickets he had on himself, never really justified the huge price he accepted from that scum Sheedy and the goons at the AFL.

    Agree with you on most points. I had to fit Spalding in, but methinks maybe you underestimate Hogan's performances - most in an ordinary side:

    Set to debut in Round 1, 2014, Hogan's senior career was stalled when it was revealed that he had stress fractures in his back shortly before the season started. Despite initial predictions that he would only miss a few weeks he was placed on the long-term injury list on May 1.

    He returned for one Casey game late in the year but did not make his senior debut until Round 1 the following year. Hogan effortlessly stepped into senior football the next year, kicking 44 goals despite Melbourne having another low scoring season and winning the Rising Star award.

    In an improved side in 2016 he produced close to the same numbers as his debut year, but struggled late in the season after a fast start. He then had a troubled 2017, suspended early in the season before losing his father to cancer and then being diagnosed with the disease himself and undergoing surgery. He returned later in the year, suffered a broken collarbone, returned again then injured his hamstring in the last game of the year.

    He had a more successful 2018 campaign, playing 20 games and kicking 47 goals before a foot injury ended his season after Round 21.  He kicked 152 goals in 71 games and as you read above, severe injuries hardly helped his cause.

    With regard to Thompson, I'll play the 'just because they're named on the bench doesn't mean they won't start in the opening 18'...Have a look at the side as published yesterday...Chandler on the Half Back Flank...

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    Emerg: Gary Baker. B&F winner and at his best, at least as good as Jolly and Keenan.

    (Yes, I know he came from Foot-is-Grey.)

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    On 4/22/2023 at 12:52 PM, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

    Adelaide’s Ben was on our list but didn’t play a game

    Definitely Nathan Bassett. I don't even think Hart was drafted, he was just added to Adelaide's list in their early days.

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    1 hour ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

    Emerg: Gary Baker. B&F winner and at his best, at least as good as Jolly and Keenan.

    (Yes, I know he came from Foot-is-Grey.)

    Nobody loved G.Baker as a player more than yours Truly. Jolly was forced to play number 2 to Jeff White, went to Sydney, Collingwood, played in premiership sides for both and played 237 games all up. 

    Also, Gary Baker only played 5 games for Sydney when he left after 1981 - his knees were rooned, as they say. I recall some of his best work was his marking ability, especially when he played Back against the resting opposition Ruck Forward.

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    Players who went to other clubs and won a flag.

    I hope this is the first Demonland post ever to mention Horrie Drane.

    Player Clubs Years
    Vin Gardiner Carlton 1908, 1915
    Horrie Drane South Melbourne 1909
    Ted Wade South Melbourne 1909
    Vernon Hazel Essendon 1911
    Bill Daly South Melbourne 1918
    Lou Riley Collingwood 1935-1936
    Peter McLean Carlton 1968
    Peter Keenan North Melbourne 1977
    Stan Alves North Melbourne 1977
    Greg Wells Carlton 1981
    Michael Byrne Hawthorn 1983
    Tony Elshaug Essendon 1985
    Earl Spalding Carlton 1995
    Clay Sampson Adelaide 1997
    Martin Pike North Melbourne
    Brisbane Lions     		1999
    2001-2003
    Matthew Bishop Port Adelaide 2004
    Darren Jolly Sydney
    Collingwood     		2005
    2010
    Steven Armstrong West Coast 2006
    James Frawley Hawthorn 2015
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    On 4/21/2023 at 5:41 PM, Monbon said:

    Backs: Walsh   Frawley   Hughes

    Half Backs: McLean   Rivers  Spalding

    Centres: Alves   Wells  Lovell

    Half Forwards: Pyke  Hogan  Watts

    Forwards: Farmer    Jakovich    Healey

    Rucks: Jolly, Barassi, Elshaugh

    Bench: Thompson, Dyson, Keenan, Byrne, Charles

     

     

    Scott Thompson a number of levels higher than elshaugh who was good player

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    25 minutes ago, Supermercado said:

    I hope this is the first Demonland post ever to mention Horrie Drane.

    I believe that @old dee was guttered when he left Melbourne.

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    I’ve seen no mention of Ricky Petterd! I remember him almost winning a game for us against Collingwood in the dark old days. He almost took a mark in front of goal in the last seconds of the game but was blinded by the sun and the ball dropped out of his hands: we were just a couple of points down at the time. I’m not certain but I seem to remember him banging the ground with his fists in utter frustration afterwards.

    Also famous for having his life saved by doctors at the ground after suffering a collapsed lung during a game. If I remember correctly the doctors took a bit of a gamble and punctured his lung with a sharp instrument enabling it to re inflate*.

    Ended up playing a few games with Richmond.

     

    *Apparently the doctors were nervous wrecks afterwards!

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