2023 NATIONAL DRAFT ORDER AND SELECTIONS

[Whispering_Jack 30,242]

This is to bookmark for the future but it currently reflects the indicative 2023 draft order if all teams finish in the same places next year as they did this year.

ROUND ONE

1. North Melbourne
2. West Coast Eagles
3. GWS Giants
4. Essendon
5. Adelaide
6. Hawthorn
7. Gold Coast Suns
8. North Melbourne
9. St Kilda
10. Carlton
11. Western Bulldogs
12. GWS Giants
13. Melbourne
14. Melbourne
15. Western Bulldogs
16. Collingwood
17. Sydney Swans
18. Geelong

ROUND TWO

19. Adelaide
20. Fremantle
21. West Coast Eagles
22. Adelaide
23. Essendon
24. Gold Coast Suns
25. Sydney Swans
26. Gold Coast Suns
27. West Coast Eagles
28. St Kilda
29. Collingwood
30.  Hawthorn
31. Richmond
32. Melbourne
33. Melbourne
34. Western Bulldogs
35. Port Adelaide
36. Sydney Swans
37. Brisbane Lions

ROUND THREE

38. North Melbourne
39. Fremantle
40. West Coast Eagles
41. GWS Giants
42. Essendon
43. Gold Coast Suns
44. Sydney Swans
45. Gold Coast Suns
46. West Coast Eagles
47. St Kilda
48. Fremantle
49. Hawthorn
50. Richmond
51. Port Adelaide
52. North Melbourne
53. Brisbane Lions
54. Gold Coast Suns
55.  Sydney Swans
56. Brisbane Lions

ROUND FOUR

57. Fremantle
58. West Coast Eagles
59. GWS Giants
60. Carlton
61. Gold Coast
62. North Melbourne
63. Gold Coast Suns
64. Port Adelaide
65. Gold Coast Suns
66. Carlton
67. Western Bulldogs
68. Richmond
69. Brisbane Lions
70. Western Bulldogs
71. GWS Giants
72. Collingwood
73. Essendon
74. Western Bulldogs

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,773]

So going off that scenario and assuming Gold Coast's academy player is a top 5 pick, I could see us doing the following:

Melbourne Trade

Pick 13 - 1,212 points

Pick 14 - 1,161 points

Pick 33 - 563 points

Gold Coast Trade

Pick 7 - 1,644 points

Pick 26 - 729 points

Future 2nd or 3rd round pick

That would give GC an extra 563 points and then we end up with pick 7, 26 & 32 for the 2023 draft.

[adonski 12,229]

Dees Pick: 1 & 18 presumably #deathride

[Elwood 3184 1,314]

Going a bit early, aren’t we?

[Whispering_Jack 30,242]

The selection order has changed over the course of the season and, now that we’re seven rounds in, we can see the effect of both ladder position and the trading of future picks:- 

ROUND ONE

1. West Coast Eagles
2. Hawthorn 
3. GWS Giants (trade with Richmond)
4. North Melbourne 
5. Melbourne (trade with Fremantle)
6. Gold Coast Suns 
7. GWS Giants
8. Sydney Swans
9. Western Bulldogs
10. Essendon
11. Adelaide 
12. Geelong 
13. Carlton 
14. North Melbourne  (trade with Port Adelaide)
15. Western Bulldogs (trade with Brisbane Lions)
16. St Kilda
17. Melbourne
18. Collingwood

ROUND TWO

19. West Coast Eagles
20. Sydney Swans  (trade with Hawthorn)
21. Richmond
22. Adelaide (trade with North Melbourne)
23. Fremantle (trade with North Melbourne*)
24. Melbourne (trade with Fremantle)
25. Gold Coast Suns (trade with Brisbane)
26. Adelaide (trade with Gold Coast)
27. Sydney Swans
28. Hawthorn (trade with Fremantle)
29. Essendon
30. Gold Coast Suns (trade with Adelaide)
31. Brisbane Lions (trade with Geelong)
32. Collingwood (trade with Carlton)
33. West Coast Eagles (trade with Port Adelaide)
34. Western Bulldogs (trade with Brisbane Lions)
35. St Kilda
36. Melbourne 
37. Port Adelaide  (trade with GWS Giants)

ROUND THREE

38. West Coast Eagles
39. Sydney Swans (trade with Hawthorn)
40. Richmond
41. North Melbourne (trade with Fremantle)
42. Fremantle (trade with North Melbourne*)
43. Port Adelaide  (trade with North Melbourne)
44. Gold Coast Suns
45. GWS Giants
46. Sydney Swans
47. Hawthorn  (trade with Brisbane)
48. Essendon
49. Gold Coast Suns
50. Brisbane Lions (trade with Adelaide)
51. Fremantle (trade with Carlton)
52. West Coast Eagles (trade with Port Adelaide)
53. Brisbane Lions
54. St Kilda
55. North Melbourne (trade with Brisbane Lions)
56. Gold Coast Suns (trade with Carlton)

ROUND FOUR

57. West Coast Eagles
58. North Melbourne (trade with Fremantle)
59. Richmond
60. Fremantle (trade with North Melbourne)
61. Brisbane Lions (trade with Adelaide)
62. Gold Coast Suns
63. GWS Giants
64. Essendon (trade with Sydney Swans)
65. Western Bulldogs
66. Carlton (trade with Essendon)
67. Gold Coast Suns (trade with Adelaide)
68. Western Bulldogs (trade with Brisbane Lions)
69. Carlton 
70. Port Adelaide 
71. GWS Giants (trade with Hawthorn)
72. Gold Coast Suns (trade with St Kilda)
73. Western Bulldogs 
74. Collingwood

* compensation pick

The order will continue to change as the ladder positions change with each round.

[Fritta and Turner 4,435]

I think we should trade pick 24 for LJ and pick 23 provided they pay half his salary (and mum agrees)

[alpha33 322]

Wait till the Tassie team comes into the competition. Then you’ll see a real mess.

[whatwhat say what 22,783]

6 minutes ago, alpha33 said:

Wait till the Tassie team comes into the competition. Then you’ll see a real mess.

2027 at the earliest

which means the likeliest earliest draft that they'd have a discernible effect on would be the 2025

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,773]

4 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

2027 at the earliest

which means the likeliest earliest draft that they'd have a discernible effect on would be the 2025

This is why it may be better if we use 4-5 picks this year to further bolster our list than go all in on getting the number 1 pick

[Whispering_Jack 30,242]

Bringing you up to date:

 

ROUND ONE

 

1. West Coast Eagles

2. North Melbourne 
3. Hawthorn 

4. Carlton 

5. GWS Giants 
6. Sydney Swans

7. GWS Giants 

8. Melbourne 

9. Gold Coast Suns 

10. Geelong 

11. Adelaide 

12. Western Bulldogs 

13.Essendon 

14. St Kilda

15. Melbourne

16. Western Bulldogs 

17. North Melbourne 

18. Collingwood

 

ROUND TWO

 

19. West Coast Eagles
20. Adelaide 
21. Fremantle 
22. Sydney Swans
23. Collingwood
24. Adelaide 
25. Sydney Swans
26. Richmond 
27. Melbourne
28. Gold Coast Suns 
29. Brisbane Lions
30. Gold Coast Suns 
31. Hawthorn 
32. Essendon 
33. St Kilda
34. Melbourne
35. Western Bulldogs 
36. West Coast Eagles
37. Port Adelaide  

 

ROUND THREE 

 

38. West Coast Eagles
39. North Melbourne 
40. Fremantle 
41. Sydney Swans
42. Fremantle 
43. GWS Giants 
44. Sydney Swans
45. Richmond 
46. Port Adelaide  
47. Gold Coast Suns 
48. Brisbane Lions
49. Gold Coast Suns 
50. Hawthorn 
51. Essendon 
52. St Kilda
53. North Melbourne 
54. Brisbane Lions
55. West Coast Eagles
56. Gold Coast Suns 

 

ROUND FOUR

 

57. West Coast Eagles
58. Fremantle 
59. North Melbourne 
60. Carlton 
61. GWS Giants 
62. Essendon 
63. Richmond 
64. Brisbane Lions
65. Gold Coast Suns 
66. Western Bulldogs 
67. Gold Coast Suns 
68. Western Bulldogs 
69. Carlton 
70. Gold Coast Suns 

71. Western Bulldogs 
72. GWS Giants 
73. Port Adelaide  
74. Collingwood

 

ROUND FIVE

 

75. West Coast Eagles 

76. North Melbourne 

77. Hawthorn 

78. Carlton 

79. GWS Giants 

80. Sydney Swans 

81. Richmond 

82. Fremantle 

83. Gold Coast Suns 

84. Geelong 

85. Adelaide 

86. Western Bulldogs 

87. Essendon 

88. St Kilda

89. Melbourne 

90. Brisbane Lions

91. Port Adelaide  

92. Collingwood 

 

* compensation pick

 

The order will continue to change as the ladder positions change with each round.

[Older demon 2,741]

Thanks Whispering! The order may change but the impact on the points will still be in the same ball park. Our pick 8 & 15 is 2633 points which roughly is a bit more than pick 2 or 3 it may go down a little depending on Freoi

[Whispering_Jack 30,242]

The current draft order from Zero Hanger.

[RyanD 290]

If Kangers get a draft compensation for Ben McKay (800k salary = Pick 6), does that mean if we get squeezed back a selection this year? or would that apply to next year? 

[Jibroni 5,004]

5 minutes ago, RyanD said:

If Kangers get a draft compensation for Ben McKay (800k salary = Pick 6), does that mean if we get squeezed back a selection this year? or would that apply to next year? 

It would be this years draft. It is no different to when Frawley left and we ended up with Brayshaw.

[Deebauched 1,220]

According to Perth media Harley Reid was recently seen inspecting the Eagles training facility . Apparently he was ovet there with the Vic team and got BOG.

[drdrake 3,178]

Pick 15 and 24 straight to Gold Coast for pick 6, then decide whether pick 5 and 6 go to West Coast for 1 and 19, add in second round pick as well.

Gold Coast needs points not early picks.

Pick 1, 19 and Brown be a pretty good get

Edited July 11, 2023 by drdrake

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

42 minutes ago, drdrake said:

Pick 15 and 24 straight to Gold Coast for pick 6, then decide whether pick 5 and 6 go to West Coast for 1 and 19, add in second round pick as well.

Gold Coast needs points not early picks.

Pick 1, 19 and Brown be a pretty good get

Put yourself in GC shoes and i reckon they'd want their current pick + the academies as a starting point so Pick 6 for 15,24 (even though they benefit in points) will be a hard sell, but it is the most logical. 

Taking 5,6 for 1,19 puts WC at a negative points wise. They'd do it for pick 1 alone, but we'd need to offer up another pick (34 wont cut it) for pick 19 coming back. 

The only spanner in the works is if they get pick 4 from Sydney for Barass. This can play both ways - if they get Pick 4 ( i personally dont think Barass is worth it), we lose all leverage and cant use Curtain as a negotiating tactic - assuming he is available at 5 as Norf are now lacking serious defensive KPD with McKay on the way out and Logue out for 2024 with an ACL. Will WC be happy with 1,4 (potentially getting Reid and Curtain) or will they be better placed going for 4,5,6 (still getting Curtain but possibly two other guns). Its easy for us to say the latter as they'll get an extra gun and we get Reid. For me they cant go wrong with either, but an extra player probably helps them rebound sooner. 

If we dont get Reid but end up with 5,6 all is not lost either. I just have a feeling that Reid will take the path of Rowell as opposed to Daicos so going all in for Reid is a bit risky. But what do i know.

[Colm 2,166]

Gold Coast will 100% trade their first round pick that will be anywhere from pick 4-10. Problem is we won’t be the only ones after it and others may value it higher and/or have Breyer hand to trade with. 
Take the dogs for instance they currently have picks 12 and 16. They also have a father son pick that’s rated late in the first round.  They could easily split their second and then go to the Suns with pick 12 plus another good pick that they get from splitting 16. 
 

GWS have 7 and 9 and good easily spit the second to have a strong hand to offer the Suns. 
 

Sydney is also one to watch, I expect them to rise up the ladder from their current position and they have a very good academy player of their own coming through that played very well over the weekend. They have Hawks 2nd and third round picks as well as their own. If their academy player( Cleary) end up being valued around the same as first pick then they will be keen to move up. 

[drdrake 3,178]

The clubs aren't going to let GC walk away with their Academy players and another top 6 pick.

I don't think the club will go after the no 1 pick, we have options to do so if they want to but I reckon we would be happy with 2 top 10 picks plus Brown later in the draft

[biggestred 5,108]

i wonder if wce would take a few picks for oscar allen....

[BangBnagBang 695]

4 hours ago, RyanD said:

If Kangers get a draft compensation for Ben McKay (800k salary = Pick 6), does that mean if we get squeezed back a selection this year? or would that apply to next year? 

No one is paying Ben McKay 800K

[Whispering_Jack 30,242]

The order after the home and away series: 

ROUND ONE
 
1. West Coast Eagles 
2. North Melbourne 
3. Hawthorn 
4. Gold Coast Suns 
5. Melbourne 
6. GWS Giants 
7. Geelong 
8. Essendon 
9. Adelaide 
10. Western Bulldogs 
11. Sydney Swans 
12. GWS Giants 
13. St Kilda 
14. Carlton 
15. Melbourne 
16. North Melbourne 
17. Western Bulldogs 
18. Collingwood
 
ROUND TWO
 
19. West Coast Eagles
20. Adelaide 
21. Fremantle 
22. Sydney Swans 
23. Adelaide 
24. Melbourne 
25. Richmond 
26. Brisbane Lions 
27. Essendon 
28. Gold Coast Suns 
29. Hawthorn 
30. Sydney Swans 
31. Gold Coast Suns 
32. St. Kilda 
33. Collingwood 
34. Melbourne 
35. West Coast Eagles 
36. Western Bulldogs 
37. Port Adelaide  
 
ROUND THREE 
 
38. West Coast Eagles 
39.  North Melbourne 
40. Fremantle 
41. Sydney Swans 
42. Gold Coast Suns 
43. Port Adelaide 
44. Richmond 
45. Brisbane Lions 
46. Essendon 
47. Gold Coast Suns 
48. Hawthorn 
49. Sydney Swans 
50. GWS Giants 
51. St Kilda 
52. Fremantle 
53. North Melbourne 
54. West Coast Eagles 
55. Brisbane Lions 
56. Gold Coast Suns 

ROUND FOUR
 
57. West Coast Eagles 
58. Fremantle 
59. North Melbourne 
60. Gold Coast Suns 
61. Brisbane Lions 
62. Richmond 
63. Western Bulldogs 
64. Carlton 
65. Gold Coast Suns 
66. Western Bulldogs 
67. Essendon 
68. GWS Giants 
69. Gold Coast Suns 
70. Carlton 
71. Western Bulldogs 
72. Port Adelaide  
73. GWS Giants 
74. Collingwood
 
ROUND FIVE
 
75. West Coast Eagles 
76. North Melbourne 
77. Hawthorn 
78. Gold Coast Suns
79. Fremantle 
80. Richmond 
81. Geelong 
82. Essendon 
83. Adelaide 
84. Western Bulldogs 
85. Sydney Swans 
86. GWS Giants 
87. St Kilda 
88. Carlton 
89. Melbourne 
90. Port Adelaide 
91. Brisbane Lions
92. Collingwood 
 
The order will continue to change as the ladder positions change during the finals series.

[Blistering 541]

So we can take it that Picks 5 and 24 are locked In because Freo are out of business for the rest of the year while Picks 15, 34 and 89 can fluctuate depending on what we do during the finals series.

[Its Time for Another 4,225]

On 8/28/2023 at 8:45 PM, Whispering_Jack said:

The order after the home and away series: 

ROUND ONE
 
1. West Coast Eagles 
2. North Melbourne 
3. Hawthorn 
4. Gold Coast Suns 
5. Melbourne 
6. GWS Giants 
7. Geelong 
8. Essendon 
9. Adelaide 
10. Western Bulldogs 
11. Sydney Swans 
12. GWS Giants 
13. St Kilda 
14. Carlton 
15. Melbourne 
16. North Melbourne 
17. Western Bulldogs 
18. Collingwood
 
ROUND TWO
 
19. West Coast Eagles
20. Adelaide 
21. Fremantle 
22. Sydney Swans 
23. Adelaide 
24. Melbourne 
25. Richmond 
26. Brisbane Lions 
27. Essendon 
28. Gold Coast Suns 
29. Hawthorn 
30. Sydney Swans 
31. Gold Coast Suns 
32. St. Kilda 
33. Collingwood 
34. Melbourne 
35. West Coast Eagles 
36. Western Bulldogs 
37. Port Adelaide  
 
ROUND THREE 
 
38. West Coast Eagles 
39.  North Melbourne 
40. Fremantle 
41. Sydney Swans 
42. Gold Coast Suns 
43. Port Adelaide 
44. Richmond 
45. Brisbane Lions 
46. Essendon 
47. Gold Coast Suns 
48. Hawthorn 
49. Sydney Swans 
50. GWS Giants 
51. St Kilda 
52. Fremantle 
53. North Melbourne 
54. West Coast Eagles 
55. Brisbane Lions 
56. Gold Coast Suns 

ROUND FOUR
 
57. West Coast Eagles 
58. Fremantle 
59. North Melbourne 
60. Gold Coast Suns 
61. Brisbane Lions 
62. Richmond 
63. Western Bulldogs 
64. Carlton 
65. Gold Coast Suns 
66. Western Bulldogs 
67. Essendon 
68. GWS Giants 
69. Gold Coast Suns 
70. Carlton 
71. Western Bulldogs 
72. Port Adelaide  
73. GWS Giants 
74. Collingwood
 
ROUND FIVE
 
75. West Coast Eagles 
76. North Melbourne 
77. Hawthorn 
78. Gold Coast Suns
79. Fremantle 
80. Richmond 
81. Geelong 
82. Essendon 
83. Adelaide 
84. Western Bulldogs 
85. Sydney Swans 
86. GWS Giants 
87. St Kilda 
88. Carlton 
89. Melbourne 
90. Port Adelaide 
91. Brisbane Lions
92. Collingwood 
 
The order will continue to change as the ladder positions change during the finals series.

WJ thanks for this. Can I suggest that you pin this as the first post and update it as teams are eliminated in the finals so we don't have to keep wading through the whole board to get to the latest version. 

[Whispering_Jack 30,242]

The order after the first week of the 2023 finals series:-

ROUND ONE 

1. West Coast Eagles 
2. North Melbourne 
3. Hawthorn 
4. Gold Coast Suns 
5. Melbourne 
6. GWS Giants 
7. Geelong 
8. Essendon 
9. Adelaide 
10. Western Bulldogs 
11. Sydney Swans 
12. St Kilda
13. GWS Giants
14. Carlton 
15. Melbourne 
16. North Melbourne 
17. Western Bulldogs 
18. Collingwood

ROUND TWO 

19. West Coast Eagles
20. Adelaide 
21. Fremantle 
22. Sydney Swans 
23. Adelaide 
24. Melbourne 
25. Richmond 
26. Brisbane Lions 
27. Essendon 
28. Gold Coast Suns 
29. Hawthorn 
30. Sydney Swans 
31. St Kilda
32. Gold Coast Suns
33. Collingwood 
34. Melbourne 
35. West Coast Eagles 
36. Western Bulldogs 
37. Port Adelaide  

ROUND THREE 

38. West Coast Eagles 
39.  North Melbourne 
40. Fremantle 
41. Sydney Swans 
42. Gold Coast Suns 
43. Port Adelaide 
44. Richmond 
45. Brisbane Lions 
46. Essendon 
47. Gold Coast Suns 
48. Hawthorn 
49. Sydney Swans 
50. St Kilda
51. GWS Giants
52. Fremantle 
53. North Melbourne 
54. West Coast Eagles 
55. Brisbane Lions 
56. Gold Coast Suns 

ROUND FOUR 

57. West Coast Eagles 
58. Fremantle 
59. North Melbourne 
60. Gold Coast Suns 
61. Brisbane Lions 
62. Richmond 
63. Western Bulldogs 
64. Carlton 
65. Gold Coast Suns 
66. Western Bulldogs 
67. Essendon 
68. Gold Coast Suns
69. GWS Giants
70. Carlton 
71. Western Bulldogs 
72. Port Adelaide  
73. GWS Giants 
74. Collingwood 

ROUND FIVE 

75. West Coast Eagles 
76. North Melbourne 
77. Hawthorn 
78. Gold Coast Suns
79. Fremantle 
80. Richmond 
81. Geelong 
82. Essendon 
83. Adelaide 
84. Western Bulldogs 
85. Sydney Swans 
86. St Kilda
87. GWS Giants
88. Carlton 
89. Melbourne 
90. Port Adelaide 
91. Brisbane Lions
92. Collingwood  

The order will continue to change as the ladder positions change during the finals series.