On 14/04/2023 at 22:31, Redleg said:

Too many Suns players refused to fight it out. Mabior Chol standing while his opponent ran away from him, after getting the ball while Chol watched,as an example.

Run that game out and they could have won it. Very disappointing. 

...and wouldn't hit up the ball. Continually wanted to get the easy one over the back.

They really are struggling to get a consistent effort.

As for Freo...unless something changes they look like a bottom 6 team.

  On 14/04/2023 at 10:36, layzie said:

Richmond were always overrated.

Certainly before this season started 

  On 14/04/2023 at 22:48, BDA said:

He was very poor last night. Didn;t contest at all. No second effort. Poor body language waving his hands in the air ala Jesse Hogan. If he was a teammate of mine i would have given him some direct feedback post-game.

And i should have said, Ben King wasn't much better.

The fact is that Freo were 4 goals down late in the 3rd quarter against probably the unfittest team in the comp who couldn’t run the game out. I found it amusing they were carrying on when they got the win, they won’t win too many if they keep playing like that.

And isn’t the Norwood oval just as pretty as a postcard picture?

  On 14/04/2023 at 23:06, BDA said:

And i should have said, Ben King wasn't much better.

At least he has a bit of an excuse...but he really might as well not been there.

Apart from one mark I'm not sure he did anything else.

  On 14/04/2023 at 23:27, In Harmes Way said:

unfittest team in the comp who couldn’t run the game out.

They really are struggling...can't use the youth excuse anymore.

Enough of their players have been in the system for a while now.

I think the issue is the work is being left to too few.

A lot of lazy footballers.

Not sure what GC saw in Mac Andrew to draft him so high.

I wonder if we would have taken him if he got through to our first pick.

The AFL need to get Hardwick to GC next year. He's done at Richmond and they're heading down the Hawthorn route under him, but he could make a difference at the Suns.  I don't like him but then I don't like Clarkson or Lyon either and they are improving their new clubs.

Longmire would be even better but why would he leave the young Swans who are on the rise?

I don't think Simpson and Hinkley have a hard enough edge to fix what's wrong up there.

  On 14/04/2023 at 23:43, old55 said:

The AFL need to get Hardwick to GC next year. He's done at Richmond and they're heading down the Hawthorn route under him, but he could make a difference at the Suns.  I don't like him but then I don't like Clarkson or Lyon either and they are improving their new clubs.

Longmire would be even better but why would he leave the young Swans who are on the rise?

I don't think Simpson and Hinkley have a hard enough edge to fix what's wrong up there.

I agree. Hardwick or Buckley are the only true options for Gold Coast in my opinion. If poor old Yze went there he'd be chewed up and spat out.

  On 14/04/2023 at 23:35, rjay said:

Not sure what GC saw in Mac Andrew to draft him so high.

I wonder if we would have taken him if he got through to our first pick.

You’re sitting at the draft table in 2021 and you have a choice at pick 19 -

Andrew or van Rooyen.

What’s your choice?

  On 14/04/2023 at 23:50, MadAsHell said:

I agree. Hardwick or Buckley are the only true options for Gold Coast in my opinion. If poor old Yze went there he'd be chewed up and spat out.

Buckley is too smart to get back into coaching I think.

Anyway sorry to all for derailing the deathride. May it roll again next week.

Rawhide!

 

Edited April 15, 20232 yr by old55

after 5 rounds, i had flagmantle having a 4-1 record 

so to have them sitting 2-3 is a win imo

tough run upcoming

  On 15/04/2023 at 00:20, whatwhat say what said:

after 5 rounds, i had flagmantle having a 4-1 record 

so to have them sitting 2-3 is a win imo

tough run upcoming

And they barely got those two wins.

Overall Freo's display has been underwhelming to say the least.

  On 14/04/2023 at 22:54, rjay said:

...and wouldn't hit up the ball. Continually wanted to get the easy one over the back.

They really are struggling to get a consistent effort.

As for Freo...unless something changes they look like a bottom 6 team.

Agree. They were ordinary, just beating an ordinary team, with plenty of passengers.

Is it just me, or has Rowell gone backwards? I saw him have no effect at all on the game.

  On 15/04/2023 at 00:32, Redleg said:

Agree. They were ordinary, just beating an ordinary team, with plenty of passengers.

Is it just me, or has Rowell gone backwards? I saw him have no effect at all on the game.

No, not just you. I was saying the same with regard to Rowell to someone this morning.

He's not a big mid (similar size to Viney I would guess but Vin has much more mongrel) and the shoulder injuries seem to have set him back.

Not sure whether he will realise the promise of his early games.

Both him and O'Meara came into the game with such a blaze of glory but have become so run of the mill.

I guess that's why it's dangerous to heap expectations on a young player...Hogan and Daniher also come to mind.

  On 14/04/2023 at 23:43, old55 said:

The AFL need to get Hardwick to GC next year.

Could they tempt Chris Scott?

  On 15/04/2023 at 00:42, rjay said:

No, not just you. I was saying the same with regard to Rowell to someone this morning.

He's not a big mid (similar size to Viney I would guess but Vin has much more mongrel) and the shoulder injuries seem to have set him back.

Not sure whether he will realise the promise of his early games.

Both him and O'Meara came into the game with such a blaze of glory but have become so run of the mill.

I guess that's why it's dangerous to heap expectations on a young player...Hogan and Daniher also come to mind.

If Witts plays they win that game.

  On 15/04/2023 at 00:50, Redleg said:

If Witts plays they win that game.

no doubt about that...

  On 14/04/2023 at 23:35, rjay said:

Not sure what GC saw in Mac Andrew to draft him so high.

I wonder if we would have taken him if he got through to our first pick.

His bro comes up in this year's draft. I believe he's in our academy, but not sure. We have 4 picks in the first 2 rounds, so maybe!

  On 15/04/2023 at 00:50, Redleg said:

If Witts plays they win that game.

Did you think Jackson spent much time on ball?

It appeared to me they wanted to use the advantage they had with Darcy.

Be interested in the stats for his time on ball and centre bounce appearances.

  On 15/04/2023 at 01:58, rjay said:

Did you think Jackson spent much time on ball?

It appeared to me they wanted to use the advantage they had with Darcy.

Be interested in the stats for his time on ball and centre bounce appearances.

I think Darcy was more on the ball than LJ and you are probably right, that they saw it as an advantage against a 2nd gamer.

  On 14/04/2023 at 22:48, BDA said:

He was very poor last night. Didn;t contest at all. No second effort. Poor body language waving his hands in the air ala Jesse Hogan. If he was a teammate of mine i would have given him some direct feedback post-game.

Feedback of this type?

  On 14/04/2023 at 10:36, layzie said:

Richmond were always overrated.

Amazing how many media ‘experts’ were talking up a Richmond renaissance in the preseason. Even after we belted them in a practice game, you had Whately carding on about it being like racehorse training and that Richmond were holding back and letting their stable mate show their hand. Complete nonsense 

  On 14/04/2023 at 23:57, old55 said:

Buckley is too smart to get back into coaching I think.

Anyway sorry to all for derailing the deathride. May it roll again next week.

Rawhide!

 

Ah Gil Favor, Rowdy Yates, Wishbone and Mushy.

Good show.

Hardwick would be good for them and maybe getting away from Victoria, with his new partner, would be good for him as well.

Edited April 15, 20232 yr by Redleg

Last night was disgusting and despicable from the Suns.