NON-MFC: Round 23, 2022

[leave it to deever 16,013]

14 hours ago, ANG13 said:

Yep all good old dee I have faith that our best is the best, just hope we can bring it the next month.  But I am certainly nervous how Sydney play against us, much more than the Cats. 

Yea....Papley, Jenny, Franklin and Warner make me nervous but I'm confident after our recent form. Besides swans just scraped home with a top 4 birth on the line so there's that.

 

[layzie 29,297]

4 minutes ago, Deestar9 said:

2 Coleman medallist’s..15 shots on goal .4 goals kicked…game over!! (& we complain about our goal kicking ) 

Most teams would dream of having one of those spearheads.

[leave it to deever 16,013]

11 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

The First Crack just showed some more incredibly damning footage for Carlton fans.

Curnow has the ball at half forward in a set play after a mark just before the Elliot go ahead goal. He has Durdin all on his own on the 50, but ignores him and goes deep where they turn it over. But that wasn't really the problem. The problem was somehow behind Curnow Carlton were outnumbered. Collingwood had Elliot and Ginnivan free.

So on the turnover, Carlton were out of position and outnumbered. Elliot kicked the goal, game over.

As they pointed out on the TV, that sort of thing just doesn't happen with sides like us or Geelong. For us, we never would have sent extra numbers into our forward 50 to try to score, and May and Lever behind the ball would have been marshalling the troops.

It's strange because even though the ladder doesn't show it....Blues are a darn good side who can play like us....win the clearances....dominate the contested balls and score quickly.

It must really hurt the last 2 losses. Not too upset for them...I just wanted the filth thumped.

Blues have some stars and will be back next year.

I hope the Pies go out in straight sets. ...so I think Cats will win.

Lions too really went from high to low with us thumping them. Not only did they lose a second chance.....Tigers match up on them well and lions will be mauled even on their home ground.

Freo to beat dogs.

Can all the South Melbourne supporters please finally accept their team sold them out and refrain from going to the game.

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[Demon17 4,624]

1 hour ago, Deestar9 said:

2 Coleman medallist’s..15 shots on goal .4 goals kicked…game over!! (& we complain about our goal kicking ) 

I didn't realise just how critcial the Blues bad kicking was until looking at the match scores in detail.  1 goal 5  to 6 goals. As you say game over.

 

 

[Spargonicus 438]

16 minutes ago, Demon17 said:

I didn't realise just how critcial the Blues bad kicking was until looking at the match scores in detail.  1 goal 5  to 6 goals. As you say game over.

 

 

Yep - they had 4 or 5 relatively easy chances to ice the game in the last 15 minutes, and botched every single one of them. Just one of those goals would have killed the Pies' momentum, especially one of the later ones. Missing goals can be such a big thing. And, look at a couple of the goals that the Pies got in the final quarter: two on the boundary from a long way out.

[Macca 16,173]

Fremantle drawing that match against the Tigers a few weeks back proved very costly in the end ... 4th spot and a double chance in fact

Ironically, if the Blues/Pies game had have finished in a draw the Pies would have dropped to 5th

All it might have taken was Durdin to kick the ball to the goal square ... any number of Blues players could have been on the scene to punch the ball through for a point

We've all had our moments though and the memories of that last quarter in the '87 Prelim final is a good example (except we had 3 or 4 chances to seal victory that day)

Anyway, more proof that a win is a better result than a draw but not forgetting that a draw is a better result than a loss ... ask Carlton 😉

Edited August 22, 2022 by Macca

[deebunked 272]

Best results week 1

Dees Pies  Lions and Freo..

Eliminate Richmond  and Bulldogs asap. Theyre both dangerous for different reasons . Tigers have very recent premiership experience and a strong forward line.

Bulldogs have Bont and 3 umpires.They did it in 2016  unlikely this year but dont take the risk.

Hate Geelong 100 fold over grubby but lucky Pies. Geelong to go out in straight sets.

 

 

Edited August 22, 2022 by deebunked

[BenJamin on Deesy St 792]

7 hours ago, MT64 said:

And similar figures against North Melbourne (who were really good back then).

Indeed. The two greatest weeks of my then 13-year-old life (followed by the worst)!

[MT64 1,110]

7 hours ago, MT64 said:

AFL members by the look. Their members not a patch on our members. They must be ex cheer squad as way back a dentist mob sponsored their cheer squad and were given massive discounts. Not sure how many took it up but a neighbour of mine did received treatment.

Spoke to neighbour today and they are still sponsoring their cheer squad. 50% off any work done.

[Deecisive 1,658]

The blue's only played one quarter out of the four, so were both lucky to be so close, and unlucky to lose. Mason Cox using his knee into players sides at the bounce when a player is to me a reportable offense. it is not just a free kick, you can do someone an injury doing that when the opposition player is not ready.

I do worry about collingwoods style of play their run, overlap and run and carry that is where we have been vulnerable to all year long. We need to have far better defensive pressure and chasing to stop the overlap, whether that is collingwood, geelong, or whoever. They all know that is our weakness.

[sue 8,463]

Did anyone in the media focus on Cox's knee jab? No discussion/video clip?

[Macca 16,173]

The Pies play a very attacking style and that style can lead to turnovers and being scored against ... but they are quite good at pressuring opposition midfielders forcing them wide which can lead to inconsequential inside 50 forays for the opposition

Often eventuating in an out of bounds 45m - 25m out from goal as compared to their own players on the end of a pass in or around the hot spot in a 1 on 1 (when they venture forward)

If there was a stat on dynamic inside 50's I suspect the Pies would be right up there

And they wouldn't have an abundance of inconsequential inside 50 forays themselves

That's the eye test though so others might disagree

Edited August 22, 2022 by Macca

[Smokey 4,146]

Very good lol 
 

 

[layzie 29,297]

On 8/21/2022 at 6:19 PM, BDA said:

And Jamie Elliot is a class player. Balls of steel. Despite playing for the pies I can't hate him and Pendlebury

In the words of HB Meyers from Mongrel Punt:

"One of the best small forwards that plays tall the game has seen" 

[DEE fence 4,535]

23 hours ago, Sideshow Bob said:

It's kinda weird.

I actually feel bad for Carlton supporters. They were as crap as us for longer than us. I can't believe that I'm going to say this - they actually deserved finals this year. 

Not being rude, but are you old enough to remember Elliot and Kernahan ? When I was young I thought Jezza, Fitzpatrick and Doull were gods, badly wished Rattan was playing for us and jealous as hell of Kouta, but between the 1st two names I mentioned and being patronized during the 80s and 90s by Carlton supporters... cannot agree

[Demonland 65,965]

 

[Deepfreeze 165]

1976 Karma.

We had to beat Collingwood last game and rely on Carlton (top of ladder and hot favourites) to beat the Dogs and we would make finals.

We got the job done on Collingwood, but Carlton Drew with the Dogs so we missed out.

At the time, I took solace in that we cemented Collingwoods first wooden spoon. Carlton finished top and went out in straight sets 6-0, 6-0.

So what happened to them past 2 weeks is somewhat satisfying. Although, I suppose would've been nice having Collingwood play Richmond in an Elim and knock one of them out.

[Demonland 65,965]

[Bitter but optimistic 21,399]

4 minutes ago, Demonland said:

That's a terrific picture - certainly worth a thousand words.

It would simultaneously make a Carlscum supporter cry and confuse the [censored] out of a filth supporter!

 

[bobby1554 1,146]

18 hours ago, Demonland said:

 

Interesting article in The Age today about Collingwood. Quoted both Maynard and Pendlebury saying they had the belief they can win when behind late in games, they actually train for those scenarios. Glad I read this. It tells me they may subconsciously switch off during periods of a game. You won't win finals if you do that

[FarNorthernD 5,848]

6 minutes ago, bobby1554 said:

Interesting article in The Age today about Collingwood. Quoted both Maynard and Pendlebury saying they had the belief they can win when behind late in games, they actually train for those scenarios. Glad I read this. It tells me they may subconsciously switch off during periods of a game. You won't win finals if you do that

That’s an interesting point. If subconsciously you think you can always come back from being behind, this will inevitably come back to bite you, particularly in a final. 

[BW511 2,269]

22 minutes ago, FarNorthernD said:

That’s an interesting point. If subconsciously you think you can always come back from being behind, this will inevitably come back to bite you, particularly in a final. 

And the H&A version of Melbourne is a different calibre to the finals version, good luck

[layzie 29,297]

1 hour ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

That's a terrific picture - certainly worth a thousand words.

It would simultaneously make a Carlscum supporter cry and confuse the [censored] out of a filth supporter!

 

I was going to say the same thing! Imagine getting caught photographed with a cup that isn't yours! 

[Demonland 65,965]

 

[jnrmac 19,205]

2 hours ago, FarNorthernD said:

That’s an interesting point. If subconsciously you think you can always come back from being behind, this will inevitably come back to bite you, particularly in a final. 

That subconscious works both ways, Any team that gets ahead of the Pies wont take their foot off the gas