The Bombers have put pick 4 on the trade table. I wonder if we go after it. The top 5 are meant to be quality (although you can never be 100% sure).

12 hours ago, Demonsterative said:

I love how the club place’s  higher value on the overall list vs the individual trade. 
 

Grundy is more value than Dogga in the next couple of years. 
 

Scache is like for like for Wiedeman. More upside IMO as the Weed did not suit our system and Shack can play back and is tall to compete as a ruck. 
 

Hunter provides a better midfield wing option we lacked with Jordan and Brayshaw Jordan and Brayshaw are better as other midfield options. 
 

Chandler is like for like with Bedford. 
 

We now have more variety and proven talent… and a better draft hand to play thid and next year

An overall improvement IMO

Interesting that we offered Bedford a 4 year deal. Giants must be paying overs.

1 hour ago, layzie said:

Hawks are going to be a creche. 

They want to finish bottom next year to pickup Harley Reid. A bottom ager  who could well have been No1 this year.

I was under the impression that clubs couldn't offload early picks for multiple later picks for points to get f/s nominees. Clubs could only hold the number of picks for the number of vacancies they had. How were the Bears given the green light to get rid of their 1st rounder for 2nd and 3rd rounders? They now have 7 picks in this draft to cover for Will Ashcroft (possible #1) and Jaspa Fletcher (late 1st or early 2nd). Doubt they have 7 vacancies

Having said that, we have young Brown next year and there's a #40 plus chance for NGA Riak Andrew, brother of Mac

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14 hours ago, BDA said:

Very good business overall

Hopefully the bed wetters can calm down now

So far it hasnt worked

4 hours ago, Stiff Arm said:

I was under the impression that clubs couldn't offload early picks for multiple later picks for points to get f/s nominees. Clubs could only hold the number of picks for the number of vacancies they had. How were the Bears given the green light to get rid of their 1st rounder for 2nd and 3rd rounders? They now have 7 picks in this draft to cover for Will Ashcroft (possible #1) and Jaspa Fletcher (late 1st or early 2nd). Doubt they have 7 vacancies

Having said that, we have young Brown next year and there's a #40 plus chance for NGA Riak Andrew, brother of Mac

They were the rules until 2020 and the AFL changed them to allow more picks than list spots supposedly to help during covid.  Ironically it helped just a few clubs.  Terrible situation in a supposedly equalised league.

Without going too MFCSS, you can bet that they will close that loophole when we need picks for Brown just like the NGA rule changes were the year we were due to draft Andrew Mac!   We could sure do with him now as a developing ruckman!

Edited October 13, 20222 yr by Lucifers Hero

 

4 hours ago, Theo said:

Interesting that we offered Bedford a 4 year deal. Giants must be paying overs.

Gee wiz, crazy for an 18 gamer!

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17 hours ago, Supreme_Demon said:

Thank you for this excellent analysis! 🙂👍

This really helps to paint an overall "big picture" of the Melbourne Demons' AFL list and where we sit regarding list management and draft picks.

I am going to take back my grumbling about MFC List Manager Tim Lamb (I listened to his interview with SEN Radio) regarding the Luke Jackson trade. In the end, we got the best deal that we could of due to the circumstances. Overall, we should be in a strong position for this year's draft as well as next year's draft too.

Fingers crossed we can obtain some good young recruits with draft picks 13# and 37#. 🤞

 

My only question is......will draft pick 37# end up being a pick in the late 20's or early 30's due to Brisbane banking up on draft picks so that they have enough points to obtain Father-Son pick Will Ashcroft with the number 1# pick in this year's AFL National Draft? 🤔

 

No worries mate 👍. Ashcroft, Fletcher & Davey will go before our 37. Brisbane have 34, 35 & 36, Essendon have 22. They will be gone once father sons are bid on but not sure if Davey will be bid on before 22. I have no idea if there are any good academy players from BL, GCS, GWS or Sydney that a team will bid on before 37. If not our pick will be 36 once fs bids have been matched for Ashcroft, Fletcher & Davey.

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12 minutes ago, Wilson7 said:

No worries mate 👍. Ashcroft, Fletcher & Davey will go before our 37. Brisbane have 34, 35 & 36, Essendon have 22. They will be gone once father sons are bid on but not sure if Davey will be bid on before 22. I have no idea if there are any good academy players from BL, GCS, GWS or Sydney that a team will bid on before 37. If not our pick will be 36 (if Davey gets bid on before 22) or 37 once fs bids have been matched for Ashcroft, Fletcher & Davey.

Essendon will either trade 22 up ahead of a Davey bid or out to picks in the 30/40’s is my guess. But yes, 37 won’t move far if at all 

7 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Essendon will either trade 22 up ahead of a Davey bid or out to picks in the 30/40’s is my guess. But yes, 37 won’t move far if at all 

Any idea if there are any academy players from QLD or Sydney who could be bid on before 37 DS?

I am going to throw out a left field idea for the club talk to Ryder and convince him to Join the MFC on the rookie list as backup ruck for 1 year.

32 minutes ago, Wilson7 said:

Any idea if there are any academy players from QLD or Sydney who could be bid on before 37 DS?

Brisbane have Shadow Brain. Adelaide have a father son. 

2 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Brisbane have Shadow Brain. Adelaide have a father son. 

max michaelanny 

also harry rowston is gws academy and he'll be around the mark there at 30odd

 

4 hours ago, layzie said:

Gee wiz, crazy for an 18 gamer!

Makes me very worried that we are not confident of keeping Kosi. 

1 hour ago, Jaded No More said:

Makes me very worried that we are not confident of keeping Kosi. 

don't dare talk dirty, jaded 🤢

6 hours ago, Demonland said:

 

Poor old Toby still can't get in the 22

11 minutes ago, Go the Biff said:

Poor old Toby still can't get in the 22

He’d be the sub

4 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Shadow Brain

Seriously? That name's just plain cruel

55 minutes ago, Roger Mellie said:

Seriously? That name's just plain cruel

It's actually Shadeau Brain if that helps

Freo missed out on Jeremy Sharp and I have no sympathy whatsoever!

16 hours ago, durango said:

I am going to throw out a left field idea for the club talk to Ryder and convince him to Join the MFC on the rookie list as backup ruck for 1 year.

I think he's done, and I highly doubt he'd want to come and do a pre-season and all the training just to be backup, whereas if he wanted too he'd still be no1 ruck at a few clubs.

16 hours ago, durango said:

I am going to throw out a left field idea for the club talk to Ryder and convince him to Join the MFC on the rookie list as backup ruck for 1 year.

I was thinking a similar thing with McEvoy.