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2023 AFL National Draft prospects: The next batch

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2 hours ago, samcantstandya said:

If Hawthorn take Watson and WB take Sanders then reckon we take Curtin or Caddy as he won't be there at 11. Prefer Reid but not looking likely at this stage.

Yeah I think think this is how it will play out, if we don’t trade.

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    3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    There's a significant drop in talent after the first top 5 picks imo. That's not even counting Jed Walter or Ethan Reed.

     

    So who are you leaving out of the group, Watson or Sanders? I’m assuming Watson who I hope either the Hawks or Dogs pick before us. 

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    Do any of you experts have reservations about Tasmanians given the imminent inevitable draft concessions and tweaks? 

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    On 23/10/2023 at 07:40, monoccular said:

    Do any of you experts have reservations about Tasmanians given the imminent inevitable draft concessions and tweaks? 


    I’ll pretend to be an expert & say “nope”

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    Rough early walk through in 1st round  (no inside intel like Cal)

    1- WCE. Harley Reid 

    2-*GCS Jed Walter gcs academy gift 

    3- NM Coby Mckercher 

    4- NM Zane Duursma afl gift 

    5- HAW Dan Curtin

    6- WB Nick Watson 

    7- MELB Ryley Sanders 

    8- *GCS Ethan Read gcs academy gift 

    9- GWS Caddy

    10- GEE Connor O’Sullivan

    11- *GCS Rogers gcs academy gift 

    12- ESS Darcy Wilson

    13- ADEL James Leake 

    14- MELB Caleb Windsor 

    15- Syd. Koltyn Tholstrup. 

    16- Stk Ollie Murphy

    17- ADEL Riley Hardeman 

    18- NM Arie Schoenmaker 

    19- *WB Croft father son 

    20- GWS Clay Hall

    21- NM Will Green 

    22- NM Archer Reid 

    23- *Haw Will McCabe 

    24- Coll. Harry DeMattia

    25- ADEL Mitchell Edwards

    26- STK. Archie Roberts 

    27- *GCS Will Graham gcs academy gift

    28- Carl. Charlie Edwards 

     

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    2nd round  With assumption that GCS picks now all gone 

    29- WCE Lance Collard

    30- GEE George Stevens 

    31- Carl Logan Morris 

    32- Rich. Luamon Luai

    33- BRIS Joel Freijah

    34- Ess. Tew Jiath

    35- Coll. Angus Hastie

    36- Freo. Koen Sanchez

    37- ESS. Billy Wilson

    38- WCE Nathan Philactides

    39- Bris. Will Dawson 

    40- Stk. Cooper Simpson

    41- Rich.  Zane Zakostelsky

    42- MELB. Taylor Goad

    43- GWS. Harvey Johnston

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    If we don't grab Curtin or O'Sullivan then I wouldn't be opposed to looking at this kid with pick 11. Got a fair bit to work with, will take time though because he's quite skinny.

    200cm intercept defender with an excellent left boot.

     

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    On 23/10/2023 at 07:40, monoccular said:

    Do any of you experts have reservations about Tasmanians given the imminent inevitable draft concessions and tweaks? 

    If Tas comes into the national comp in 2028. These players will be what age?  22 maybe 23?  If they are good, and I hope they all are, then I assume some form of compensation, possibly like free agency. Besides not all will want to play for Tassie, or even if they do, they won't do it all at once either. Drafting from Tas really won't be any different really than WA or any other state based player for the MFC.
    Players like Ryley Sanders have been in Melbourne this year and played for Sandringham in the Coates League.

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    Great work @spirit of norm smith

    I have been wondering if Hawks will pick Curtain with their f/s pick McCabe also being a key defender( haven’t seen him). Taking Ginnivan might mean they are less likely to take Watson I guess. 
     

    If we do go for two mids with our two top picks as you have above I hope that either Dawson or Zakostelsky slides to 42 or we move up to get them. 

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    3 minutes ago, Nascent said:

    If we don't grab Curtin or O'Sullivan then I wouldn't be opposed to looking at this kid with pick 11. Got a fair bit to work with, will take time though because he's quite skinny.

    200cm intercept defender with an excellent left boot.

    I like Arie Schoenmaker as well.... booming left boot, looks like he's got a good frame on him, and Walters, Curtin and McKercher all put pretty big wraps on him.  Paid a bit of a penalty (10 weeks) early in the season for getting on the sauce, But came back strongly in the second half of the season, and his game v Vic Metro was a bit of a stand out.

    Guess it depends on when/if recruiters see the need for a big bodied defender.  Given we have Jed Adams also on the list.

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    3rd round as clubs may start to pass or pickup some smokies or state league players. Some roughies from here that could be drafted, rookies or miss out. Hawks and Bulldogs picks lost or push back due to father son picks 

    44- Syd. Ashton Moir

    45- NM Shaun Mannagh

    46- Freo  Aiden O’Driscoll

    47- BRIS. Jack Delean

    48- BRIS  Will Brown

    49- Haw. Tarkyn O’Leary 

    50- *GWS Harvey Thomas. academy 

    51-*Syd . Caiden Cleary. academy 

    52-  WB Kane McAuliffe

    53- NM Sam Clohesy

    54- WCE. Luke Lloyd 

    55-Haw. Ry Cantwell

    56- *BRIS. Patrick Snell. academy 

    57- GWS Phoenix Gothard

    58- Freo  Kade De La Rue

    59- ESS  Tyson Sruk

    60- Haw  Lachie Hosie

     

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    4 minutes ago, Colm said:

    Great work @spirit of norm smith

    I have been wondering if Hawks will pick Curtain with their f/s pick McCabe also being a key defender( haven’t seen him). Taking Ginnivan might mean they are less likely to take Watson I guess. 
     

    If we do go for two mids with our two top picks as you have above I hope that either Dawson or Zakostelsky slides to 42 or we move up to get them. 

    We might just miss Zakostelsky. Would be a bonus pickup if he’s available and we use our pick. 

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    Our 1st pick in my opinion will be out of in order of probability: Sanders, Caddy, Watson, O'Sullivan.

    2nd Pick in order of probability: Murphy, Tholstrup, Leake, Shoenmaker.

    Our 1st pick is effectively pick 8 and our2nd pick is effectively pick 15 given Academy and F/S likely bids.

    There is maybe the usual surprise pick in the top 8 opening up extra 'touted' pick at our turn. The is sure to be 2 or 3 bolters/surprises in the top 15 opening up 2 or 3 of the 'touted' players to pick from.

    This draft will be very interesting.

    Read that we are interested in Leake (along with cats and saints) and that he could be a top 10 bolter. Shoenmaker in the same article is said to be another bolter maybe in the late teens.

    Would not be surprised if we surprise pick at the draft.

     

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    4 hours ago, Ouch! said:

    I like Arie Schoenmaker as well.... booming left boot, looks like he's got a good frame on him, and Walters, Curtin and McKercher all put pretty big wraps on him.  Paid a bit of a penalty (10 weeks) early in the season for getting on the sauce, But came back strongly in the second half of the season, and his game v Vic Metro was a bit of a stand out.

    Guess it depends on when/if recruiters see the need for a big bodied defender.  Given we have Jed Adams also on the list.

    Plays very similar to Steven May.

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    19 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Plays very similar to Steven May.

    Yep thats what I thought to.... although I think May might be a bit quicker. Shoenmaker has a much more fluid kicking action than O'Sullivan as well, if I had a criticism of what I have seen, he has an awkward ball drop.

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    With leake and Windsor allegedly bolting into top 10 contention, is it possible that O'Sullivan slides through to pick 11?

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    21 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

    We might just miss Zakostelsky. Would be a bonus pickup if he’s available and we use our pick. 

    St Kilda are keen on him, think they may jump before Richmond.

    Upside is huge, didn’t make Claremont Colts squad in 2022 and certainly worked hard, grew and just improved through the year. Caught the attention of WA talent and earned a spot in the 18s a couple of games in playing as KPD.

    I saw him play an Ammo’s Colts scratch match North Beach vs Trinity Aquinas at the start of the year and whilst the athleticism was there there were quite a few basics needing work. To see where he ended up by the end of the season is a credit to him and could be just the beginning of a path of development which could lead to a decent return for the club who takes the chance 

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    21 hours ago, Ouch! said:

    I like Arie Schoenmaker as well.... booming left boot, looks like he's got a good frame on him, and Walters, Curtin and McKercher all put pretty big wraps on him.  Paid a bit of a penalty (10 weeks) early in the season for getting on the sauce, But came back strongly in the second half of the season, and his game v Vic Metro was a bit of a stand out.

    Guess it depends on when/if recruiters see the need for a big bodied defender.  Given we have Jed Adams also on the list.

    Yes I quite like the little I have seen of Schoenmaker, just looks like that big competitive type who will transition well to AFL level. Also with a penetration in his left foot gives you some nice options 

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    19 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

    Yes I quite like the little I have seen of Schoenmaker, just looks like that big competitive type who will transition well to AFL level. Also with a penetration in his left foot gives you some nice options 

    He genuienly looks like a Steven May clone. Same body size. Long kick. Think he's probably a better kick than May. Whether he can defend like May I don't know.

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    May has always been very strong 1-1 contested player. Either at full back or full forward in his younger days. Schoenmaker has similar traits perhaps with more run and kicks a drop punt without effort 60 metres.  

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    On 26/10/2023 at 14:50, spirit of norm smith said:

    3rd round as clubs may start to pass or pickup some smokies or state league players. Some roughies from here that could be drafted, rookies or miss out. Hawks and Bulldogs picks lost or push back due to father son picks 

    44- Syd. Ashton Moir

    45- NM Shaun Mannagh

    46- Freo  Aiden O’Driscoll

    47- BRIS. Jack Delean

    48- BRIS  Will Brown

    49- Haw. Tarkyn O’Leary 

    50- *GWS Harvey Thomas. academy 

    51-*Syd . Caiden Cleary. academy 

    52-  WB Kane McAuliffe

    53- NM Sam Clohesy

    54- WCE. Luke Lloyd 

    55-Haw. Ry Cantwell

    56- *BRIS. Patrick Snell. academy 

    57- GWS Phoenix Gothard

    58- Freo  Kade De La Rue

    59- ESS  Tyson Sruk

    60- Haw  Lachie Hosie

     

    You have done a solid job with the top 60. Well done!  Its not easy to do.

    Edited by DeeLicous

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    On 26/10/2023 at 13:09, spirit of norm smith said:

    2nd round  With assumption that GCS picks now all gone 

    29- WCE Lance Collard

    30- GEE George Stevens 

    31- Carl Logan Morris 

    32- Rich. Luamon Luai

    33- BRIS Joel Freijah

    34- Ess. Tew Jiath

    35- Coll. Angus Hastie

    36- Freo. Koen Sanchez

    37- ESS. Billy Wilson

    38- WCE Nathan Philactides

    39- Bris. Will Dawson 

    40- Stk. Cooper Simpson

    41- Rich.  Zane Zakostelsky

    42- MELB. Taylor Goad

    43- GWS. Harvey Johnston

    https://www.afl.com.au/news/1059261
    Luamon Lual… I think he’ll go around 30-33…he’s a great youngster and he’s run and run and energy will be an asset wherever he goes. Plays like Wilmot/Quaynor.  Gets it and runs.  

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