Nascent 9,345 Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 Seems we have another talented NGA player coming through with the Dandenong Stingrays this season. Named 2nd best on ground against the Ranges last Saturday with 30 touches and described by Cal Twomey as a talented and skilfull prospect in the below article. https://www.afl.com.au/news/735813/why-essendon-could-miss-out-on-exciting-next-gen-talent-anthony-munkara We would have to hope a bid falls outside of pick 40 otherwise he will go the way of Mac Andrew and straight to the club that selects him. Haven't been able to find out too much more on him except that he's 181cm tall. Looks like he predominantly plays as a defender. 2 Quote
DistrACTION Jackson 10,753 Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 Not being able to pick a player inside the top 40 is one of the more ridiculous drafting rules they brought in. I can kind of understand the top 20 to an extent, but there is just no incentive to put any time or effort into the players if you lose access to them. 14 Quote
Grimes Times 1,278 Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 https://www.aflsoutheast.com.au/dreams-come-true-in-diversity-cup/ A little bit of a mention here 1 Quote
Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,681 Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 12 minutes ago, Action Jackson said: Not being able to pick a player inside the top 40 is one of the more ridiculous drafting rules they brought in. I can kind of understand the top 20 to an extent, but there is just no incentive to put any time or effort into the players if you lose access to them. Was about to say exact same thing, top 20 is perfectly understandable (or first round), top 40 seems to be an attempt to destroy the acadamies 5 Quote
Nascent 9,345 Posted April 5, 2022 Author Posted April 5, 2022 31 minutes ago, Action Jackson said: Not being able to pick a player inside the top 40 is one of the more ridiculous drafting rules they brought in. I can kind of understand the top 20 to an extent, but there is just no incentive to put any time or effort into the players if you lose access to them. Agreed. Should have only been restricted to first round then perhaps heavier cost to match early in the second (more so than it is currently) with it scaling down as the draft progresses. Meanwhile the Northern academies are untouched under the current system. Go figure. 1 1 2 Quote
daisycutter 30,021 Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 (edited) personally i think the father/son and all academies priority picks should be changed make all the club for academies be more responsible for development activities (monitored and measured) scrap all point discounts (getting priority is enough of an incentive) all clubs to get priority (f/s or academy) but at the full points value bid (i.e. no discounts) limit the number of priority picks in any year to 1 maybe not allow for future points to be used for priority picks (not sure on this one) or set a maximum future points limit Edited April 5, 2022 by daisycutter 5 Quote
Guest Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 I say we draft him based on his name alone. It’s uber-Melbourne! Quote
daisycutter 30,021 Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 37 minutes ago, Colin B. Flaubert said: I say we draft him based on his name alone. It’s uber-Melbourne! rochford devenish-meares says hi 🤣 1 Quote
Willmoy1947 4,261 Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 Lot of my rellies Devenish and Greta.. 1 Quote
DistrACTION Jackson 10,753 Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Nascent said: Agreed. Should have only been restricted to first round then perhaps heavier cost to match early in the second (more so than it is currently) with it scaling down as the draft progresses. Meanwhile the Northern academies are untouched under the current system. Go figure. Yeah agreed. Not sure why there should be any scaling for father son and academies? You already have access to them, why also get it at a reduced cost than others would pay. Doesn't make sense. Quote
deelusions from afar 1,894 Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 Is a hyphenated surname a criteria for our NGA? 1 1 Quote
ManDee 7,395 Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 17 minutes ago, willmoy said: Lot of my rellies Devenish and Greta.. Nothing at Greta other than a footy ground and a church. Apparently one of only seven footy grounds in Australia with no town attached. 1 2 Quote
Nascent 9,345 Posted April 5, 2022 Author Posted April 5, 2022 24 minutes ago, Action Jackson said: Yeah agreed. Not sure why there should be any scaling for father son and academies? You already have access to them, why also get it at a reduced cost than others would pay. Doesn't make sense. Yeah you're probably right re scaling. I was more proposing removing discounts and more or less have the cost in line with the draft points system they have in place. 1 Quote
DistrACTION Jackson 10,753 Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Nascent said: Yeah you're probably right re scaling. I was more proposing removing discounts and more or less have the cost in line with the draft points system they have in place. Oh yeah that's what I meant, just think I explained it incorrectly. I meant the discount applied to the scaling points, not sure why you need it. 1 Quote
Willmoy1947 4,261 Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 33 minutes ago, ManDee said: Nothing at Greta other than a footy ground and a church. Apparently one of only seven footy grounds in Australia with no town attached. Horsemen, saddlers, brumby hunters and coppers. Quote
Nascent 9,345 Posted April 5, 2022 Author Posted April 5, 2022 25 minutes ago, Action Jackson said: Oh yeah that's what I meant, just think I explained it incorrectly. I meant the discount applied to the scaling points, not sure why you need it. Nah it was me that explained myself poorly. Early days for Finn but good start to the season. One to keep track of during the season. Quote
MrFreeze 2,055 Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 19 hours ago, daisycutter said: personally i think the father/son and all academies priority picks should be changed make all the club for academies be more responsible for development activities (monitored and measured) scrap all point discounts (getting priority is enough of an incentive) all clubs to get priority (f/s or academy) but at the full points value bid (i.e. no discounts) limit the number of priority picks in any year to 1 maybe not allow for future points to be used for priority picks (not sure on this one) or set a maximum future points limit We made a lot of our trades exploiting the points system. Don't think clubs would be willing accept round 2 and 3 bundled picks for 1st rounders without the point system. Quote
daisycutter 30,021 Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, MrFreeze said: We made a lot of our trades exploiting the points system. Don't think clubs would be willing accept round 2 and 3 bundled picks for 1st rounders without the point system. i think you misunderstood i was only saying stop the points discount, not the points system itself hope that clarifies it 1 Quote
whatwhat say what 23,880 Posted April 6, 2022 Posted April 6, 2022 they've completely removed the benefits to the clubs of having an nga by making no players available inside the top 40 picks - these days, that's nearly 3/4 of the draft picks used! surely it should just be round 1, if any 1 Quote
pineapple dee 2,892 Posted April 6, 2022 Posted April 6, 2022 23 hours ago, Colin B. Flaubert said: I say we draft him based on his name alone. It’s uber-Melbourne! Neal- Bullen, Featherstone-Hough, Emile -Brennan, Bring on the double barrel names !! Quote
Whispering_Jack 31,368 Posted April 7, 2022 Posted April 7, 2022 Melbourne did manage to draft an NGA player last year in Andy Moniz-Wakefield who is showing a little bit at Casey but I feel the rule that prevents clubs from matching bids on their own NGAs up to pick #40 is unreasonable and prohibitive to the investment involved in the system. Hopefully, the AFL will see the light and reconsider the situation. In the meantime, these are Rookie Me Central’s notes on Finn:- Scouting Notes: 2022 NAB League Boys – Round 1 “#13 Finn Emile-Brennan Playing out of the backline, Brennan provided plenty of spark with his aggressive ball use and confidence with ball in hand, taking on opponents and showing brilliant composure when under pressure. Emile-Brennan won some impressive ground level balls and spun out of tackles immediately, keeping his hands free to deliver to runners. The real highlight of Emile-Brennan’s game was some of his kicking, whilst some attempted long kicks went astray, his kicking at short-medium distances was superb, getting penetration on the ball to have it move quickly to his target, but having them delivered just softly enough so the kick wasn’t difficult to hold.” 9 Quote
Nascent 9,345 Posted April 10, 2022 Author Posted April 10, 2022 (edited) Named 3rd best on for Dandenong in their win over the Lions academy. Very early days but if he keeps this form up he might be out of reach for us. Edited April 10, 2022 by Nascent Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,680 Posted April 10, 2022 Posted April 10, 2022 Agree. Tell the kid to settle down. He is a good prospect and would like him in red and blue. Quote
darkhorse72 1,943 Posted April 10, 2022 Posted April 10, 2022 Wasn't it top 20 last year, why would and when did that change? Top 40 is pretty much the whole draft for most teams nowadays. Quote
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