Farewell Luke Jackson

[BDA]

It’ll be 13 and their future first. Can’t see how freo trade into the top 10. 
if we end up with Grundy, 13 and a f1 in exchange for Jackson and 2 round pick I think on balance that’s an ok outcome.

In terms of freo and Peter bellend I’ll be joyfully death riding freo first rounder. I can’t think of anything more satisfying that watching them tank next year. I won’t be surprised if they miss finals and we end up with a top 10 pick anyways. 

Edited October 6, 2022 by BDA

[adonski]

5 minutes ago, BDA said:

It’ll be 13 and their future first. Can’t see how freo trade into the top 10. 
if we end up with Grundy, 13 and a f1 in exchange for Jackson and 2 round pick I think on balance that’s an ok outcome.

In terms of freo and Peter bellend I’ll be joyfully death riding freo first rounder. I can’t think of anyone more satisfying that watching them tank next year. I won’t be surprised if they miss finals and we end up with a top 10 pick anyways. 

I'd be heavily pushing for Norf's 2023 2nd rounder (probably pick 19?) to be included 

Edited October 6, 2022 by adonski

[Nascent]

Have we surpassed the length of the Hogan thread yet?

[layzie]

3 minutes ago, Nascent said:

Have we surpassed the length of the Hogan thread yet?

Feels like it. Was that the one where the biscuits discussion came about during the lull in trade period?

[Nascent]

7 minutes ago, layzie said:

Feels like it. Was that the one where the biscuits discussion came about during the lull in trade period?

That sounds vaguely familiar. Just checked and the page count on Hogan currently stands at 484 

[SA Red n Blue]

1 hour ago, mo64 said:

Did Luke or his mum say "no"? 

Would have been mummy. Jackson doesn’t have a set & wouldn’t be able to speak his own mind.

[layzie]

3 minutes ago, Nascent said:

That sounds vaguely familiar. Just checked and the page count on Hogan currently stands at 484 

We got some work to do!

[Mickey]

Honestly, Freo can GAGF. They've been courting Luke for ages, and now just expect us to accept unders. Get stuffed

[Bang Bang Bang]

Freo are douchebags. This is eerily similar to what happened with Hogan in 2018. We wanted two early first rounders, Freo wouldn't budge. We ended up accepting "unders" of pick 6 (May) and 23 (Sparrow). May alone helped get us a flag and Sparrow looks like he'll be a 150 gamer. Freo got two dud years out of Hogan then offloaded him to GWS for a fourth rounder - and now he's rediscovering his best form again with the Giants. Hope the karma bus hits them again. Would be great if they tanked it next year and that future first became a top 5 pick. 

Edited October 6, 2022 by Bang Bang Bang

[Pates]

I’m so over Freo being twats about this, they know they are getting a future superstar, possibly 200+ game legend but what they are putting up is saying “meh he’s alright”. Pull you’re F-ing fingers out and do a proper deal that’s befitting the deal they have put in front of LJ. 

I know this is irrational but I’m at a point where I’d rather him go to WC for nothing than end up at Freo with them being such fI0gs about it. 

Offer up next years 2nd rounder and I’ll take the deal, I wish (I would hope) we did some research on their list to try to find players that we could poach for this deal to happen. Is there no Melbourne born players on their list that we could get them to hand over as a deal finaliser?

Edited October 6, 2022 by Pates

[BDA]

In all honesty what leverage do we have? Hope Peter Bellend does the right the thing and pays fair compensation? Good luck with that

[daisycutter]

8 minutes ago, layzie said:

We got some work to do!

attaboy, layzie 🥊

[dazzledavey36]

Who's going to cave in first....

[layzie]

Could be the hardest brain buster we've dealt with at the trade table yet..

[Gawndy the Great]

11 minutes ago, Mickey said:

Honestly, Freo can GAGF. They've been courting Luke for ages, and now just expect us to accept unders. Get stuffed

Luke just has to threaten to resign with MFC. The fact that he is mingling with the Freo players already is just unprofessional.

He should have stayed here until the deal was signed and be seen getting photographed with documents in hand leaving MFC HQ.

The guy is a peanut and despite his best intention is just as responsible for contributing to this colossal f up of a situation. 

Hope Viney runs straight through him at the centre bounce.

[mmwd6]

11 minutes ago, Bang Bang Bang said:

Freo are douchebags. This is eerily similar to what happened with Hogan in 2018. We wanted two early first rounders, Freo wouldn't budge. We ended up accepting "unders" of pick 6 (May) and 23 (Sparrow). May alone helped get us a flag and Sparrow looks like he'll be a 150 gamer. Freo got two dud years out of Hogan then offloaded him to GWS for a fourth rounder - and now he's rediscovering his best form again with the Giants. Hope the karma bus hits them again. Would be great if they tanked it next year and that future first became a top 5 pick. 

We could've held Hogan to his contract though so it's different. There was an element of us wanting to get rid of him. 

[mmwd6]

11 minutes ago, BDA said:

In all honesty what leverage do we have? Hope Peter Bellend does the right the thing and pays fair compensation? Good luck with that

That's the thing. We've got nothing to stand on here. WC haven't put up an offer to us, they haven't even convined LJ to join them. 

If this trade gets done it's going to be us who cave, because we're not going to let him walk to the PSD for nothing. 

Everyone knew he wanted to go home last year. He should have requested his trade then right after his grand final performance where his value was at its highest. Fremanlte had pick 6, 8, and 19 last year. 

[Little Goffy]

Honestly, I'd be comfortable with slightly 'unders' compared to what many people are anticipating.

2022 and 2023 first round draft picks, some salary cap offload which will help a lot in future, and a good mood all round.

Fremantly will give him a fairly long contract on big money at the end of which he'll ask to be traded back to us in 5 or 6 year's time when Gawn retires.

[Pates]

1 minute ago, mmwd6 said:

That's the thing. We've got nothing to stand on here. WC haven't put up an offer to us, they haven't even convined LJ to join them. 

If this trade gets done it's going to be us who cave, because we're not going to let him walk to the PSD for nothing. 

Everyone knew he wanted to go home last year. He should have requested his trade then right after his grand final performance where his value was at its highest. Fremanlte had pick 6, 8, and 19 last year. 

It’s a fair point, again you can only hope that the club spoke with him to see what he was thinking. Now let’s keep in mind this is a very young man still working out who he is but if he had an inkling that he would want to go home it seems massive own goal on our end not to push the deal then and there. 

I don’t any Melbourne fans would’ve begrudged it as well as we still would’ve been riding the premiership highs. 

[BDA]

3 minutes ago, mmwd6 said:

Fremanlte had pick 6, 8, and 19 last year. 

They had Cerra as well. He would have been included in the deal for sure

[fr_ap]

4 minutes ago, Pates said:

It’s a fair point, again you can only hope that the club spoke with him to see what he was thinking. Now let’s keep in mind this is a very young man still working out who he is but if he had an inkling that he would want to go home it seems massive own goal on our end not to push the deal then and there. 

I don’t any Melbourne fans would’ve begrudged it as well as we still would’ve been riding the premiership highs. 

Jacko would have said very little to us directly. The agents are the mouthpieces so as to deliberately obfuscate true intentions

Honestly it's not as simple as looking the bloke in the eye - it's all very guarded

[layzie]

14 minutes ago, mmwd6 said:

That's the thing. We've got nothing to stand on here. WC haven't put up an offer to us, they haven't even convined LJ to join them. 

If this trade gets done it's going to be us who cave, because we're not going to let him walk to the PSD for nothing. 

Everyone knew he wanted to go home last year. He should have requested his trade then right after his grand final performance where his value was at its highest. Fremanlte had pick 6, 8, and 19 last year. 

Yeah much more to play with last year. Cerra as well.

[Matt]

I still think the trade may end up being Freo's 13, Freo's 2023 1st and North's 2023 2nd. Then we might try to flip 13 and North's 2023 2nd, to go up the order.

Edited October 6, 2022 by Matt

[deespicable me]

8 minutes ago, BDA said:

They had Cerra as well. He would have been included in the deal for sure

Yes but if we just got everything we wanted we'd all be barracking for Geelong. 

There is solace in the fact that Freo have and probably will never win a flag.

[mmwd6]

13 minutes ago, Pates said:

It’s a fair point, again you can only hope that the club spoke with him to see what he was thinking. Now let’s keep in mind this is a very young man still working out who he is but if he had an inkling that he would want to go home it seems massive own goal on our end not to push the deal then and there. 

I don’t any Melbourne fans would’ve begrudged it as well as we still would’ve been riding the premiership highs. 

Him only signing 1 year after his initial contract was a red flag. Almost all draftees sign 2.