On 25/07/2022 at 09:18, WalkingCivilWar said:

Wouldn’t wanna get in anywhere with him, willmoy. Yep, big ol’ bunch of NOPE right there. 🙅🏼‍♂️

I did invite you to a night out at Hooters WCW - and you knocked me back..  

Well ... you won't get those opportunities too often!

  On 25/07/2022 at 10:42, picket fence said:

Cue Uncle Bitter, er Uncle can you introduce this young Buck, to some fine young ladies from Beautiful Downtown Romsey??

Of course you would be expected to Chaperon!!!!😍

Well .... I do have a couple of phone numbers picket!    ( the same ones I gave to you actually)

  On 25/07/2022 at 10:20, mo64 said:

Then why doesn't every Victorian kid that wants to come home, say they are open to go to the club that has the most draft capital to offer. These deals are orchestrated well in advance.

And who knows, Jackson may be like Buddy and end up at the club that no one suspected. I haven't been told he's going to Freo.

Well if he lands at Eagles we get pick 2 and maybe a player. That just about guarantees  us a key forward in the draft.

  On 25/07/2022 at 10:58, Redleg said:

Well if he lands at Eagles we get pick 2 and maybe a player. That just about guarantees  us a key forward in the draft.

I don't think WC can trade that pick this year?

  On 25/07/2022 at 11:04, dazzledavey36 said:

I don't think WC can trade that pick this year?

They can with AFL permission - which would be almost a foregone conclusion.

  On 25/07/2022 at 10:48, Bitter but optimistic said:

I did invite you to a night out at Hooters WCW - and you knocked me back..  

Well ... you won't get those opportunities too often!

Is that a promise?!?

  On 25/07/2022 at 10:42, Bitter but optimistic said:

Don't involve me in your nauseating  mawkishness WCW !!

You should be thanking your lucky stars that I’d deign to involve you in anything. 🤨

  On 25/07/2022 at 11:54, WalkingCivilWar said:

Is that a promise?!?

Bah !!!! Foolishness!! 

Most Sheilas would kill for a night out with Uncle Bitter!!

  On 25/07/2022 at 12:07, Bitter but optimistic said:

Bah !!!! Foolishness!! 

Most Sheilas would kill for a night out with Uncle Bitter!!

Just calling women “sheilas” might explain why Uncle Bitter only gets a night out with Uncle Bitter. 

Surely West Coast can still feature in all this?

  On 25/07/2022 at 01:51, gregdemon said:

and may v langton verbal      May should shut up given his clangers lately       not to mention he has cost us top four with behavior and  mistakes  and missing games

When was that?

Weight of the world on his shoulders now 

  On 25/07/2022 at 12:35, layzie said:

Surely West Coast can still feature in all this?

I don’t understand why it is not even been spoken of. His reason is to return to WA. Like Cerra tried to get to us he was more than happy to go to Carlton when it was obvious we couldn’t trade with Freo. 

If we cannot reach a suitable agreement with Freo, then we pick up the phone to Eagles and ask for pick 2/3 and call it a day. 

I think the fact that LJ wants to leave and that staying in Melbourne is not an option has lessened what we will get for him. 

  On 25/07/2022 at 13:51, CYB said:

I don’t understand why it is not even been spoken of. His reason is to return to WA. Like Cerra tried to get to us he was more than happy to go to Carlton when it was obvious we couldn’t trade with Freo. 

If we cannot reach a suitable agreement with Freo, then we pick up the phone to Eagles and ask for pick 2/3 and call it a day. 

I think the fact that LJ wants to leave and that staying in Melbourne is not an option has lessened what we will get for him. 

Cake and eating it is the metaphor

Money, Premiership and home all delivered by Freo

Why do the hard yards with WCE

We have been so outplayed here it is starting to become laughable

Funny thing is that he may end up at WCE by default

I am still hopeful Luke Jackson will sign a 2 or 3 year contract to win another Premiership with the Demons. Why leave when you have the chance to win another Premiership or more? I under home sickness is a factor but what about loyalty to your team mates?

However, the longer this drags on the less likely this will happen and he will return to Perth. If we are to lose Luke Jackson to either West Coast or Fremantle we need to be fairly compensated.

This means either a good quality player and a first round draft pick or 2 first round draft picks. Remember, it cost us 2 first round draft picks to Adelaide to get Jake Lever so I see that as being the ideal trade deal for us to ask for from either Fremantle or West Coast.

My take on all this Luke Jackson rubbish.

I honestly don't think Luke Jackson is worth more than 600k per yr at the maximum until he proves himself as a consistent player. He is 20 years old and the entitlement is beyond me. Have some balls and take a look at your situation you [censored] [censored]! 

In saying that we do not know the real reason he may want to go home, but let's assume there is nothing urgent such as an ill family member who he'd want to be around.

- He was drafted into a premiership winning team, unlike Freo who have not proven themselves yet, they could absolutely crap it in the finals. He could win another premiership possibly even a third at Melbourne.

- He is being mentored by possibly the best Ruckman in the modern era in Max Gawn. He clearly won't learn the same from a 24 year old Darcy and certainly has so much more to learn from Max.

- If he signs for only an additional 2 years his best years between 22-30yrs old are still in front of him. I mean come on have some perspective, you can take your $1M per year then, I mean he bought a [censored] house at age 20, money is in abundance here.

- From what I've heard and seen he has a good group of friends surrounding him in Melbourne not the least of which are his bloody awesome teammates. So why leave now?

- Moving clubs this early could potentially disrupt his development and career. Idk how it is in football but to me it seems you want some continuity as an AFL player, especially at such a young age and the connection he has built with the club at this point will have been wasted. He needs to remain in this uninterrupted environment until he has some more years under his belt.

With all that said, I'm sure enough of his mentors, managers and advisors with their heads screwed on have pointed out all of these very reasonable takes on his situation and to be frank if he still decides to bail on success at one very good Club for a premature return to home you can't help the kid. Disappointing to say the least.

Edited July 25, 20222 yr by Deenooos_

Scott Thompson 

Jeff Farmer 

Jesse Hogan 

And potentially Luke Jackson 

do the Dees have trouble retaining our interstate talent? 
 

Hoping Jackson stays but if not, let’s reset, demand 2 x 1st rounders ( get Aaron Cadman and Brayden George) and then get a 2nd Ruck/Fwd (like Haydn McLean) on less than 1/2 the money. 

Thanks to all those with their bloviating judgements and negative psychoanalysis. 

I now understand, with more clarity, why someone would want to leave…

  On 25/07/2022 at 21:29, spirit of norm smith said:

Scott Thompson 

Jeff Farmer 

Jesse Hogan 

And potentially Luke Jackson 

do the Dees have trouble retaining our interstate talent? 
 

Hoping Jackson stays but if not, let’s reset, demand 2 x 1st rounders ( get Aaron Cadman and Brayden George) and then get a 2nd Ruck/Fwd (like Haydn McLean) on less than 1/2 the money. 

No. In fact I think this comment is a bit of an overreaction SONS.

In the 21 year period since Farmer has left we've lost, as you pointed out, 3 other players to back home.

I think if anything that's a fantastic strike rate compared to the likes of Fremantle, Brisbane, GWS and Gold Coast.

Cadman would be the dream get for me.

  On 25/07/2022 at 21:29, spirit of norm smith said:

Scott Thompson 

Jeff Farmer 

Jesse Hogan 

And potentially Luke Jackson 

do the Dees have trouble retaining our interstate talent? 
 

Hoping Jackson stays but if not, let’s reset, demand 2 x 1st rounders ( get Aaron Cadman and Brayden George) and then get a 2nd Ruck/Fwd (like Haydn McLean) on less than 1/2 the money. 

Problem with that is I don’t see us getting the two first round picks - prepare to be disappointed 

Personally if Fremantle is his preferred I’d rather walk him to the PSD and Norf - why would we accept unders and make one of our main competitors stronger 

Edited July 25, 20222 yr by Sydee

  On 25/07/2022 at 21:57, Sydee said:

Problem with that is I don’t see us getting the two first round picks - prepare to be disappointed 

Personally if Fremantle is his preferred I’d rather walk him to the PSD sand Norf - why would we accept unders and make one of our main competitors stronger 

So we make our main competitors stronger and we walk away with absolutely nothing by walking to the PSD?

I couldn't think of anything worse. There is zero gain from doing that.

Edited July 25, 20222 yr by dazzledavey36

  On 25/07/2022 at 22:09, dazzledavey36 said:

So we make our main competitors stronger and we walk away with absolutely nothing by walking to the PSD?

I couldn't think of anything worse. There us zero gain from doing that.

Norf or WC are our main competitors? 

Gotta get the best deal I think, no guarantee he becomes a huge success.  

  On 25/07/2022 at 21:29, spirit of norm smith said:

Scott Thompson 

Jeff Farmer 

Jesse Hogan 

And potentially Luke Jackson 

do the Dees have trouble retaining our interstate talent? 
 

Hoping Jackson stays but if not, let’s reset, demand 2 x 1st rounders ( get Aaron Cadman and Brayden George) and then get a 2nd Ruck/Fwd (like Haydn McLean) on less than 1/2 the money. 

Make no mistake, we were happy to let Hogan go.

Ok, I could be talked around to this:

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/chasing-the-sun-why-gold-coast-must-make-an-offer-to-lure-dustin-martin-20220725-p5b4cc.html

Jackson to Freo, Dusty to Gold Coast, King to Melbourne - Freo can sort out the rest.