On 08/07/2022 at 07:28, Lord Travis said:

Didn’t have a disposal in the second half last night. Million dollar players don't go an entire half without touching the ball when the whips are cracking.

Havent looked at the stats but sounds like an awful second half

  On 08/07/2022 at 07:30, Lord Travis said:

 

Can’t be a successful team without buy in and trust.

100% however he does have the right to exit.

As a coach though you also have the right to ask what's happening with performance.  And if you suspect he's already checked out... i know what i'd be doing...

Edited July 8, 20222 yr by Demon Dynasty

All this judgement about going home and professional footballers feeling homesick - Jake Lever can go play where he wants!!

 

 

(cough)

 

  On 08/07/2022 at 06:11, Stiff Arm said:

Coming from you SWYL, that bit made me chuckle

Many on the Gameday Thread are far more emotional than I Grasshopper….

  On 08/07/2022 at 07:55, rpfc said:

All this judgement about going home and professional footballers feeling homesick - Jake Lever can go play where he wants!!

 

 

(cough)

 

Well said.

 

  On 07/07/2022 at 12:58, goodwindees said:

My very strong mail, and it won’t come as any surprise, is that Jackson will be playing in WA next year.  The Club even offered to move his family to Melbourne recently and it was rejected.

I'm calling BS on this, you also said a couple of years ago that Oliver wanted to leave because he didn't win the B&F.

  On 08/07/2022 at 06:25, dazzledavey36 said:

 

Seriously you two..

Do you guys understand that Jackson going into the PSD is the worst possible outcome that could happen to our football club.

We get absolutely zero benefit out of this and get completely shafted.

Whether you like it or not Jackson is out of contract. The moment we he nominates Freo, that's exactly who we have to deal with. Players has more power now days then the actual club especially when out of contract and nominate a set club.

You can pretend to talk tough all you want but at the end of the day, the club (Melbourne) need to find the best possible deal it can to be satisfied. 

Name me one big out of contact player that nominated a club of choice but then was forced to be traded to another because it didn't suit the clubs set requirements. 

It doesn't happen now days.

Not necessarily. I would goto Norf and say give us Pick #2 (priority pick) and we will knock back all offers from WCE and Freo and force LJ into the PSD. Its a dog act, yes, but it also gives us even more bargaining power to keep both WCE and Freo in check. 

They will know that we are using them as a bargaining chip, but we can come to some sort of arrangement / understanding for future swaps or trades, but ultimately it allows us to attach some value to the Norf option - not sure if its totally legal though. 

  On 08/07/2022 at 06:26, Mickey said:

 

Does anyone have access to the article? Is it anything new?

no

the only interesting thing about that article is that jon ralph admits that jackson could wake up tomorrow and decide he's staying

in order words...he has as much idea as anyone else

He can go too inconsistent.

All the more reason to pick up the cheque and get stuck into the b's

Almost at Page 100, who would have thought

  On 08/07/2022 at 08:13, CYB said:

Not necessarily. I would goto Norf and say give us Pick #2 (priority pick) and we will knock back all offers from WCE and Freo and force LJ into the PSD. Its a dog act, yes, but it also gives us even more bargaining power to keep both WCE and Freo in check. 

They will know that we are using them as a bargaining chip, but we can come to some sort of arrangement / understanding for future swaps or trades, but ultimately it allows us to attach some value to the Norf option - not sure if its totally legal though. 

So yeah.. that's incredibly bizarre and this type of scenario has never ever happened in AFL trade history and it certainly won't happened with Jackson.

Again, once they've nominated a club, they're getting there.

To technically get picked up by North he has to physically sign a contract. He would never in a million years play for another Melbourne club via a PSD draft.

Why does everyone think Melbourne will be this complete badass come trade time lol.

We've never operated this way and have built incredibly strong relationships with other clubs during trade time due to our professional style in getting deals done without any issues.

 

  On 08/07/2022 at 08:08, drysdale demon said:

I'm calling BS on this, you also said a couple of years ago that Oliver wanted to leave because he didn't win the B&F.

Not completely false. He met with Carlton 

  On 08/07/2022 at 06:55, dazzledavey36 said:

He's not screwing us at all Jaded.

He's out of contract and has the right to request a trade to his club of choice.

The moment he nominates Freo we'll facilitate the best deal for the club. You're forgetting we have Jason Taylor and Tim Lamb who have facilitated some of the best deals going sound in years.

 

Of course he’s screwing us if he nominates Freo when he knows full well we will get better compensated if he went to West Coast. Height of arrogance for somebody who has only achieved what he’s achieved because of the club he found himself at and not vice versa 

 

  On 08/07/2022 at 07:55, rpfc said:

All this judgement about going home and professional footballers feeling homesick - Jake Lever can go play where he wants!!

 

 

(cough)

 

Totally different scenario. Firstly Lever had a partner and kid on the way. Secondly Adelaide was a horrible mess of a club. 

Jackson is 21. Not married. No kids. No problems playing for and winning flags. 

  On 08/07/2022 at 09:15, Jaded No More said:

Of course he’s screwing us if he nominates Freo when he knows full well we will get better compensated if he went to West Coast. Height of arrogance for somebody who has only achieved what he’s achieved because of the club he found himself at and not vice versa 

 

Totally different scenario. Firstly Lever had a partner and kid on the way. Secondly Adelaide was a horrible mess of a club. 

Jackson is 21. Not married. No kids. No problems playing for and winning flags. 

Lol talk about double standards.

No club owns a player. If he's desperate to leave as it is looking could be the case, we shake hands and wish him the best and look at getting maximum compensation. 

  On 08/07/2022 at 08:33, 1964_2 said:

Not completely false. He met with Carlton 

Still calling BS on it and seeing that SWYL likes your post if Goodwindees is right that means his post of the other day is BS.

  On 07/07/2022 at 22:47, Redleg said:

That will never change.

Bring in the rule, stop players and clubs meeting and talking in the media so blatantly, and the discussion calms down during the season. It won’t even be at zero but it surely helps.

Its best for clubs and players and only impacts the media marginally. But the trade off is more players will move clubs unexpectedly when the off season starts.

  On 08/07/2022 at 09:15, Jaded No More said:

Totally different scenario. Firstly Lever had a partner and kid on the way. Secondly Adelaide was a horrible mess of a club. 

Jackson is 21. Not married. No kids. No problems playing for and winning flags. 

Adelaide just made the grand final. Let’s no assume we couldn’t be in a similar spot to them in a few years (minus the infamous camp).

We also don’t know all of Jacko’s story. He might be incredibly tight with his family and have good reason to be with them.

Players get to choose, that’s the system, if Freo are willing to pay the price then we aren’t getting screwed.

Edited July 8, 20222 yr by DeeSpencer

  On 08/07/2022 at 08:08, drysdale demon said:

I'm calling BS on this, you also said a couple of years ago that Oliver wanted to leave because he didn't win the B&F.

He also said Luke Dunstan had met with dees well before it came out in the media last year and was a certainty to sign. 

He's had more right then wrong and has great links through his friend through player management. 

 

  On 08/07/2022 at 09:15, Jaded No More said:

Of course he’s screwing us if he nominates Freo when he knows full well we will get better compensated if he went to West Coast. Height of arrogance for somebody who has only achieved what he’s achieved because of the club he found himself at and not vice versa 

 

Totally different scenario. Firstly Lever had a partner and kid on the way. Secondly Adelaide was a horrible mess of a club. 

Jackson is 21. Not married. No kids. No problems playing for and winning flags. 

Jesus Jaded this is seriously very unlike of you..

We need to cool the jets yeah? This whole media circus about him nominating Freo has come from one bloke only and that's Jon Ralph.  

For now lets chill out until official confirmation, meanwhile let's continue to support Jacko while he's playing in the red and blue yeah?

  On 08/07/2022 at 09:46, dazzledavey36 said:

He also said Luke Dunstan had met with dees well before it came out in the media last year and was a certainty to sign. 

He's had more right then wrong and has great links through his friend through player management. 

 

Yeah sure

  On 08/07/2022 at 09:24, drysdale demon said:

Still calling BS on it and seeing that SWYL likes your post if Goodwindees is right that means his post of the other day is BS.

Thanks DD. If my info turns out to be incorrect i will never live it down, because old Army Boy will never let me forget it. Oh woah is me. 
You just call BS on everything, so by sheer coincidence that means sometimes you are correct. 
As of early Last week the Club was Confident they could keep Jackson, but nothing had been signed. 

  On 08/07/2022 at 10:04, Sir Why You Little said:

Thanks DD. If my info turns out to be incorrect i will never live it down, because old Army Boy will never let me forget it. Oh woah is me. 
You just call BS on everything, so by sheer coincidence that means sometimes you are correct. 
As of early Last week the Club was Confident they could keep Jackson, but nothing had been signed. 

Not quite right, I am backing your info in.

  On 08/07/2022 at 10:11, drysdale demon said:

Not quite right, I am backing your info in.

Only because it’s convenient for you to do so

Didn’t like him anyway. 

  On 08/07/2022 at 10:25, Ethan Tremblay said:

Didn’t like him anyway. 

Mrs. [censored] Baiter?