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Wingers Club as described by Gus is Langdon, Brayshaw, Baker, Nietschke, Rosman, and in the recent past Jordon. Per Gus&Gawny pod.

So if they don’t shoehorn it with a non-winger will be Baker straight in or Sparrow in and Jordon to the wing.

I think they will stick to the roles - it reinforces the edicts around playing your role, and knowing what you have to do.

 

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    On 5/30/2021 at 10:17 AM, binman said:

    I was being facetious. I meant Brown's Casey game.

    As I said in a previous post I think they wedged themselves  They are not going to bring Brown in but I think he shouldn't have gone out in rbe first place.

    But to he honest I find both players a bit underwhelming and wonder if DeeSpencer might be on the money and come finals we revert to our rounds 1-5 set up.

    Weed should be compared to naughton, not brown. That's the level he should be at.

    Both the same height. Both drafted at 9. Same position.

    Naughton is miles ahead

    https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=12&pid1=4171&fid1=S&playerStatus2=A&tid2=8&pid2=6491&fid2=S&type=A

    Sam is two years older and so is running out of excuses for all those game he 'nearly' starts clunking his marks or kicking goals.

    Sorry Binman but if you're going to quote footywire to support your argument, I can do the same to support Weid.  Your correct Naughton is miles ahead at 21yr 6mth he has played 64 games. Sadly, Weid has played just 47. If we can see him play the rest of the season we might be pleasantly surprised.

     

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    34 minutes ago, dworship said:

    .... If we can see him play the rest of the season we might be pleasantly surprised.

     

    Agree. We have to show some faith in Weid. IMO he's a confidence player.

    Probably 3 or 4 missed marks on Friday were 'nearlies' including the very first centre clearance (that Harmes goaled from).

    I don't recall him '2 grabbing' marks in the 2018 finals (Cats and Hawks). Weid is the future. BBB ain't.

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    Baker for Lingers.  Just needs to hold the line for a week or two.  Mind you he has some bloody big shoes to fill

    9 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

    Baker for Lingers.  Just needs to hold the line for a week or two.  Mind you he has some bloody big shoes to fill

    Not for me RN, I don’t think he is Senior level standard. 

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    I'd love to see RIv go up to the wing, and Bowey give us some run off half back

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    38 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

    Baker for Lingers.  Just needs to hold the line for a week or two.  Mind you he has some bloody big shoes to fill

    Just a week or two? Surely just one, right?

    2 hours ago, M_9 said:

    Agree. We have to show some faith in Weid. IMO he's a confidence player.

    Probably 3 or 4 missed marks on Friday were 'nearlies' including the very first centre clearance (that Harmes goaled from).

    I don't recall him '2 grabbing' marks in the 2018 finals (Cats and Hawks). Weid is the future. BBB ain't.

    M9 wrong on 2 counts 

    Weid 2 grabbed the mark just before 1/4 time vs Cats. Is consistently 2 grabbing and not always retaining the ball. 
     

    And BBB has 4 year contract so he's not going any where. He only needs a run at it also to change fortunes. Between the 2 we should come up with a very useful KP Full forward in the second half if the season.  

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    17 minutes ago, 58er said:

    And BBB has 4 year contract so he's not going any where. He only needs a run at it also to change fortunes. Between the 2 we should come up with a very useful KP Full forward in the second half if the season.  

    I tend to agree, BBB needs to be given some more opportunity in the second half of the season. I'm sure with an extended run of games he will build his form and fitness. I am far from thinking he is done.

     

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    5 hours ago, Demons11 said:

    Listening to Gus and Gawny I reckon Jordan goes to the wing and Sparrow comes in.

    Last time I looked, Gus and Gawny weren't on the match committee.

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    My problem with Baker is that of defense.

    Can he play that structured game? He needs to be able to support the backline, and stop the opposition from getting easy outs. I also question his decision making.

     He can get the ball, tackle, moves well to space, and is nearly a good kick.

    The consistency in the selections would have us, having to play him for a few games, given that he has already been in and out of the team without cementing a spot or given a fair run at it. Tough to come in for one game.

    Sparrow would be in the same boat if they are thinking one game filler. Sparrow would be a better long term selection. 

    Would prefer to give one game to Bowey or Rosman.

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    43 minutes ago, Mono said:

    Last time I looked, Gus and Gawny weren't on the match committee.

    I never said it was them picking the team but last time I checked they played in the team and would know the side - Geeze.   It may be off the mark but they did hint at it but thanks for pointing at their positions I was unaware ?

    2 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

    Baker for Lingers.  Just needs to hold the line for a week or two.  Mind you he has some bloody big shoes to fill

    Agree Rusty, it's clear to me he is next in line. I was at the ground for the Sydney game and he was one of the best. Had 26 disposals, kicked a goal and patrolled up and down his wing. He has plenty of pace and is good in the air. I commented to a mate at the time that he clearly knows the role and the game plan and how to execute it and is a great plug and play option.

    His one other outing this year produced the following;

         Kicks        12 v North Melbourne, 2nd May 2021

        Handballs        3 v North Melbourne, 2nd May 2021

        Marks        5 v North Melbourne, 2nd May 2021

        Goals        0
        Tackles        4 v North Melbourne, 2nd May 2021

        Clearances    2 v North Melbourne, 2nd May 2021

        Goal Assists    0
        Inside 50s    6 v North Melbourne, 2nd May 2021

        Rebound 50s    1 v North Melbourne, 2nd May 2021

        Supercoach    67 v North Melbourne, 2nd May 2021

        AFL Fantasy    73 v North Melbourne, 2nd May 2021

    People need to remember it's a specialist role and while I like the future of Rosman he is a developing prospect, not a ready to go winger. The other thing to remember is Brisbane like to use the flanks/wings and have pace through there.

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    13 minutes ago, dworship said:

    Agree Rusty, it's clear to me he is next in line. I was at the ground for the Sydney game and he was one of the best. Had 26 disposals, kicked a goal and patrolled up and down his wing. He has plenty of pace and is good in the air. I commented to a mate at the time that he clearly knows the role and the game plan and how to execute it and is a great plug and play option.

    His one other outing this year produced the following;

         Kicks        12 v North Melbourne, 2nd May 2021

        Handballs        3 v North Melbourne, 2nd May 2021

        Marks        5 v North Melbourne, 2nd May 2021

        Goals        0
        Tackles        4 v North Melbourne, 2nd May 2021

        Clearances    2 v North Melbourne, 2nd May 2021

        Goal Assists    0
        Inside 50s    6 v North Melbourne, 2nd May 2021

        Rebound 50s    1 v North Melbourne, 2nd May 2021

        Supercoach    67 v North Melbourne, 2nd May 2021

        AFL Fantasy    73 v North Melbourne, 2nd May 2021

    People need to remember it's a specialist role and while I like the future of Rosman he is a developing prospect, not a ready to go winger. The other thing to remember is Brisbane like to use the flanks/wings and have pace through there.

    Yep i certainly wouldn't want to see Rosman thrown in the deep end at such a raw end of his career DW.  Give him another pre-season or two and give him a taste of the big league when the oppo and time suits.  Looks a very nice lip smacking prospect.  Looking forward to him coming on and into the senior ranks as he builds a tank and body etc.

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    3 hours ago, 58er said:

    M9 wrong on 2 counts 

    Weid 2 grabbed the mark just before 1/4 time vs Cats. Is consistently 2 grabbing and not always retaining the ball. 
     

    And BBB has 4 year contract so he's not going any where. He only needs a run at it also to change fortunes. Between the 2 we should come up with a very useful KP Full forward in the second half if the season.  

    I'm not sure either will bust any doors down (at AFL level.. VFL a different matter) this season 58 with both coming off an interrupted pre-season.  Usually find players struggle to hit their "top form"with consistency in these situations.  I'm not saying they won't improve on some pretty ordinary early form and one or both might have the occasional day  out.  But i wouldn't bet the house on them firing on all cylinders consistently either.

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    3 hours ago, old dee said:

    Not for me RN, I don’t think he is Senior level standard. 

    I don't think anyone is up to holding down a regular 22 on the wing either OD.  I just think he's the most suited go to at this point until Lingers returns in a week or two ?

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    2 hours ago, Mel Bourne said:

    Just a week or two? Surely just one, right?

    It would seem that way MB.  I usually err on the side of caution.  Bit of self preservation (latent MFCSS!?) 

    14 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

    It would seem that way MB.  I usually err on the side of caution.  Bit of self preservation (latent MFCSS!?) 

    You are not alone RN.


    6 hours ago, Mono said:

    Last time I looked, Gus and Gawny weren't on the match committee.

    Those two have a habit of giving up what's happening inside the club. That's almost all that show is. Gawn or Gus putting their foot in it and saying something they're not supposed to let slip and Benny trying to cover for them.

    Anyway, I think the MC is almost certain to add Sparrow and push JJ to the wing. It gives us an extra mid rotation too. JJ has played quite a bit of wing, so I reckon he'll play 70 pr 80% wing and they'll fill the remainder with a Melksham and Kozzy. The latter two have had wing time too.

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    10 hours ago, A F said:

    Those two have a habit of giving up what's happening inside the club. That's almost all that show is. Gawn or Gus putting their foot in it and saying something they're not supposed to let slip and Benny trying to cover for them.

    Anyway, I think the MC is almost certain to add Sparrow and push JJ to the wing. It gives us an extra mid rotation too. JJ has played quite a bit of wing, so I reckon he'll play 70 pr 80% wing and they'll fill the remainder with a Melksham and Kozzy. The latter two have had wing time too.

    Langton usually plays >90% game time, Brayshaw >85%, so not sure when Jordon has played the wing much.

    Also Jordon usually plays 55-70% game time, so not sure he has the tank for the wing

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    Jeezus Christ @Demonlandyou just gave me a heart attack as my page was loading - I thought one of our guys was injured!

    Meh, I think we can beat them Neale or no Neale.

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