COVID & AFL 2021

[Jaded No More 68,915]

4 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

She said the ball’s been touched by “many sweaty men,” with such disdain! Who did she expect to be on show?! She’s not talking about a ballet performance. ?‍♂️ 

She’s probably just upset that the ball of a sweaty men hasn’t been near her in a while ?

[Dr. Gonzo 24,219]

9 minutes ago, Jaded said:

Sure but either let the teams play or get stuffed. They are being so over the top it’s actually quite ridiculous. 
I do not want us playing in SA if that’s how we will get treated. Sydney or WA will do me fine. 
WA has done a great job selling out dream time. 

WA doesn't have a public holiday on June 14th is the issue though. Plus additional travel for players.

[dice 707]

4 hours ago, Demonland said:

Longer version.

 

Where is the two-hand facepalm emoji when you need it?

Edited June 3, 2021 by dice

[dieter 3,325]

8 hours ago, daisycutter said:

i understand all the balls used during the game are to be wrapped in ppe and sent for cremation

depending on the outcome of the game the umpires may also be cremated

Yes that's a good idea. Televised, I hope.

[Superunknown 4,217]

Many sweaty men - a new meme sensation

Wasn’t aware sweat was a vector!

cannot give Adelaide QBW now - Sydney or Gabba unless MCG can be 50% or similar (I’m betting that could happen)

[Dr. Gonzo 24,219]

38 minutes ago, dice said:

Where is the two-hand facepalm emoji when you need it?

[dice 707]

Dr Pain at it again:
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/fifteen-minutes-after-border-closure-victorians-forced-into-nt-quarantine-20210603-p57xu0.html

You can't make this s**t up if you tried

[Guest]

So, two of today’s three new cases turned out to be false positives. I’m confident the lockdown will be lifted earlier than planned. But sadly it’ll be too late to keep the QB match in Melb. 

[Macca 16,970]

1 hour ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

So, two of today’s three new cases turned out to be false positives. I’m confident the lockdown will be lifted earlier than planned. But sadly it’ll be too late to keep the QB match in Melb. 

Were they touted as 2 of the stranger-to-stranger positive tests that had the authorities baffled?

So are we now down to all the positive tests being linked?  All in isolation now?

I suppose we can see it as some sort of good news but these false positives and others testing positive later than predicted does make things quite confusing

I reckon they'll take the safe route and we'll continue in lockdown through to midnight next Thursday.  If we hit zero in the meantime well & good

As for the financial hit (NT game & QB clash) the AFL will hopefully come to the party and help out with favourable fixturing down the track ... Pert needs to try his best to at least even the score

But if we keep winning like we've been doing next year could be a bumper year in terms of revenue anyway

As for now,  beat the Lions tomorrow night and we'll keep getting FTA exposure for all concerned (that includes existing sponsors & future sponsor opportunities)

Edited June 3, 2021 by Macca

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Macca said:

So are we now down to all the positive tests being linked?  All in isolation now?

 

Yes. All linked. I think we may have actually stymied this outbreak. Meanwhile, people are coming out in droves to get vaccinated so this short-term scare won’t have been in vain. 

[Jaded No More 68,915]

I would really hope that in light of these two false positives that the AFL pauses for a moment. I would hate to miss out on this game being at the G. I’m sure both clubs would be happy to push it out a week (we both play in Victoria the following week) and play it even with 50% capacity. 
I understand we need to give people time to buy tickets and also sort out the ground arrangements, but I would hate for the AFL to make this decision tomorrow and next Thursday we are told 50% capacity at footy is allowed (outdoors, with masks, need to register for your tickets etc... and it’s been proven that even with positive cases nobody transmitted the virus at the footy). 

[titan_uranus 25,020]

4 minutes ago, Jaded said:

I would really hope that in light of these two false positives that the AFL pauses for a moment. I would hate to miss out on this game being at the G. I’m sure both clubs would be happy to push it out a week (we both play in Victoria the following week) and play it even with 50% capacity. 
I understand we need to give people time to buy tickets and also sort out the ground arrangements, but I would hate for the AFL to make this decision tomorrow and next Thursday we are told 50% capacity at footy is allowed (outdoors, with masks, need to register for your tickets etc... and it’s been proven that even with positive cases nobody transmitted the virus at the footy). 

It's way worse though if they hold off until Thursday, it gets worse or at least not better enough, and they're stuck.

They have to make a call sooner rather than later and the Vic government can't make a call that soon.

[Pates 9,660]

I’m actually on board with the idea of shifting our bye to next week and making the Pies game the week later. That gives the AFL a chance to reassess and potentially have the game at the G with crowds reduced. 

It also means that a decision doesn’t need to be immediately made. 

[Jaded No More 68,915]

30 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

It's way worse though if they hold off until Thursday, it gets worse or at least not better enough, and they're stuck.

They have to make a call sooner rather than later and the Vic government can't make a call that soon.

Not if they push our game to the following Saturday night. MCG is free. Only other game is GWS vs Carlton (who gives a crap?) and both teams play the following Saturday in Victoria so a decent break. 

[Diamond_Jim 12,588]

I was surprised by the 7 day lockdown extension. I thought it would be until Sunday night with an announcement on Saturday.

If today and tomorrows figures are low we might see some easing.

For the QB game I would take the bye and then play the game the following week. Jaded's suggestion of Saturday night sounds sensible

[rjay 24,928]

10 hours ago, Jaded said:

I would really hope that in light of these two false positives that the AFL pauses for a moment. I would hate to miss out on this game being at the G. I’m sure both clubs would be happy to push it out a week (we both play in Victoria the following week) and play it even with 50% capacity. 
I understand we need to give people time to buy tickets and also sort out the ground arrangements, but I would hate for the AFL to make this decision tomorrow and next Thursday we are told 50% capacity at footy is allowed (outdoors, with masks, need to register for your tickets etc... and it’s been proven that even with positive cases nobody transmitted the virus at the footy). 

 

9 hours ago, Jaded said:

Not if they push our game to the following Saturday night. MCG is free. Only other game is GWS vs Carlton (who gives a crap?) and both teams play the following Saturday in Victoria so a decent break. 

If we played the Saturday night I don't think we would get to the 50% crowd (50k)...

The army of frontrunners are not turning up.

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,833]

Yeah I've been campaigning for the QBDAY game to be pushed back to Saturday night 19 June. The MCG is free that day/night and the AFL and MFC should hold off from making a call until next week to see if the VIC government will allow crowds for 19 June.

Even 35-40% capacity with masks required should see the club make a few $$

I just don't get the attraction or even the point of sending this game to Adelaide in front of 10-15,000 fans and making our lads travel yet again. This game in no way has the cache of the Dream time game (Optus is sold out) and Collingwood are far from a headline act at the moment. Therefore they're dreaming if a big crowd will come along.

 

Edited June 3, 2021 by Bring-Back-Powell

[loges 6,767]

So how many cases have actually come out of the AFL community in the past year and a half. Real over the top stuff Just keep the players in a bubble and let them travel wherever  Apply crowd sizes as required.

[Diamond_Jim 12,588]

And let's open level 4 to allow the crowds to spread out !!

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,833]

27 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

And let's open level 4 to allow the crowds to spread out !!

Spot on.

Makes no sense having nearly every seat occupied on the bottom level of the southern stand - afl members, while the top level is empty.

[Superunknown 4,217]

11 hours ago, Macca said:

But if we keep winning like we've been doing next year could be a bumper year in terms of revenue anyway

As for now,  beat the Lions tomorrow night and we'll keep getting FTA exposure for all concerned (that includes existing sponsors & future sponsor opportunities)

This is it - keep winning and the business takes care of itself. Sponsors, gate, memberships, TV blockbusters.

There's still a chance to get a game to the NT. GWS home game maybe? Adelaide home game? Have to weigh up the 700k (whatever it is) against Fortress MCG - number 1 priority should be wins, not revenue - wins take care of that. We need a top 2. Insurance against losing first week and having to go interstate.

 

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,755]

10 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

This is it - keep winning and the business takes care of itself. Sponsors, gate, memberships, TV blockbusters.

There's still a chance to get a game to the NT. GWS home game maybe? Adelaide home game? Have to weigh up the 700k (whatever it is) against Fortress MCG - number 1 priority should be wins, not revenue - wins take care of that. We need a top 2. Insurance against losing first week and having to go interstate.

 

We know, because we can see, that winning increases the gate, membership numbers and Channel 7's appetite to seek more prime time games with us involved. What is less transparent is what it does for sponsorship revenues, although we can see if we gain any new sponsors.

What I'm curious about, though, is whether the agreements we already have with sponsors have some sort of trigger clause based on performance which generates extra income for the club. For example, does Zurich, or any others sponsor, pay us more when we win more? Or if we get more prime time TV exposure? Is there anyone on Demonland who works in this area and can explain how these major sponsorship deals are structured?

[Superunknown 4,217]

Some Shovel humour on the SA CHO's mega-gaffe:

https://www.theshovel.com.au/2021/06/03/afl-matches-in-adelaide-to-go-ahead-without-ball/

[Demonland 72,193]

 

[Diamond_Jim 12,588]

1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

What I'm curious about, though, is whether the agreements we already have with sponsors have some sort of trigger clause based on performance which generates extra income for the club. For example, does Zurich, or any others sponsor, pay us more when we win more? Or if we get more prime time TV exposure? Is there anyone on Demonland who works in this area and can explain how these major sponsorship deals are structured?

Typically sponsorship agreements have all the triggers you speak about plus of course a base level.

The triggers are limited only by your imagination and negotiating skills. Finals are an obvious kicker.

Ash Barty would be interesting. Her agreements would almost certainly include kickers for being number 1 in the rankings. As rankings were suspended for 2020 and she didn't play was she paid?

Years ago I saw a number 1 golfer's deal and the kickers went for many pages. I suspect that the Formula 1 deals would be volume like.

PS the world of digital platforms has of course widened measurement of "success goals" greatly. On a related note I would like to know to see some discussion of clubs assuming full control of their own websites.

Edited June 4, 2021 by Diamond_Jim