Bolton, Rioli Involved in Night Club Fight

[don cordner 204]

2 hours ago, picket fence said:

Rule 1 Dont Condemn till you know the full story

Rule 2 Dont attend nightclubs that may or may not draw heat

Rule 3 Always defend honour of women

Rule 4 See rule 1 

 

I wreckon the claims about  there woman being harassed. Is complete bs

[faultydet 7,623]

1 minute ago, don cordner said:

I wreckon the claims about  there woman being harassed. Is complete bs

Based on what exactly?

[FireInTheBennelly 4,099]

6 minutes ago, Left Foot Snap said:

High, Reckless, Medium impact?

How many weeks is that? Honestly, the bouncers have no idea ........

Christian investigated the incident and determined there was no case to answer

[don cordner 204]

13 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Last time I had a guy crack on to my wife at a club, I just went over to the security and told them, the security then walked the guy out and I gave him a smile and a. Wave as he got escorted past me and out the club :)

[kev martin 10,501]

16 minutes ago, don cordner said:

I wreckon the claims about  there woman being harassed. Is complete bs

Probably just inappropriate attention.

Women and some men get this all the time.

Can create friction if partner/friend is testosteroned and wants to stand up.

Ask women about the best way to deflect these men. They do it regularly without conflict.

End male on male violence. It is not nice.

Edited May 10, 2021 by kev martin

[ProperDee 1,698]

Last time I had a guy crack on to my wife I felt sorry for the poor bustard.

[siam juntaRus 92]

Why would AFL players take gf's to a sleazy nightclub? Go to a restaurant with Dustin. I thought they went  to clubs to get picked  up  by groupies ..re  Geelong. Stkilda in past days. Do AFLW girls go to nightclubs? lol

Edited May 10, 2021 by siam juntaRus

[Dr. Gonzo 24,368]

1 hour ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

30 years ago I was weaving my way through a crowded nightclub making my way back from the ladies’ room when I was hit in the head with a jug of beer. It wasn’t deliberate, one big drunk guy was passing the beer to his mate, but it was reckless. My then-boyfriend was furious and asked me to point the guy out, which I did. What happened next? Nothing, that’s what. Turns out the big drunk guy was Darren Millane and the then-bf was a diehard Magpies fan. 
Needless to say, that relationship didn’t exactly flourish. 

If it was Darren Millane probably smart of your then boyfriend to leave it be...

[Juicebox 628]

So... You're allowed to throw a few punches if a girlfriends being harrassed? What happens if the bloke who wears the punches ends up in an ICU? 

Regardless of their success, richmond are trash. Their culture is trash. 

[Cards13 9,117]

24 minutes ago, siam juntaRus said:

Why would AFL players take gf's to a sleazy nightclub? Go to a restaurant with Dustin. I thought they went  to clubs to get picked  up  by groupies ..re  Geelong. Stkilda in past days. Do AFLW girls go to nightclubs? lol

Maybe it was the other way around, maybe his gf is a dj and maybe she was playing at da club that night? Maybe she dragged him along to watch her set?

[Jaded No More 68,974]

Maybe men should stop behaving like absolute uneducated pigs to women and to one another. Problem solved. 

[old55 23,801]

"Richmond men". The greatest myth ever perpetrated in the AFL. They're in the image of Damien Hardwick - total campaigner!

I cut Dusty slack - modest champ who plays clean.

Edited May 10, 2021 by Pollyanna

[pineapple dee 2,892]

Bolton and Rioli miss handled this totally !!!

Just call in Dusty.............. with chopsticks.

[dl4e 5,851]

3 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

30 years ago I was weaving my way through a crowded nightclub making my way back from the ladies’ room when I was hit in the head with a jug of beer. It wasn’t deliberate, one big drunk guy was passing the beer to his mate, but it was reckless. My then-boyfriend was furious and asked me to point the guy out, which I did. What happened next? Nothing, that’s what. Turns out the big drunk guy was Darren Millane and the then-bf was a diehard Magpies fan. 
Needless to say, that relationship didn’t exactly flourish. 

Sure it wasn't the Keysborough hotel. Millane spent many hours there and was a complete drunk and bully. I remember it well.

[deelusions from afar 1,868]

In terms of the football implications of this, it's very interesting.  Tigers now have Cotchin, Prestia, Lambert, Edwards, Bolton from their midfield for at least this week and probably the next week.  That would be something like us missing Viney, Oliver, Harmes, Brayshaw and Kozzie.  Would be tough to win games like that.  Although they have Dusty - his unaccountable style won't help much if they can't win the ball!

They play GWS and Brisbane the next two weeks.  I can't see them getting it done without their midfield.  Still think they will be tough to beat in September if all their players come back but this will make things much harder for them if they're 4-6 after round 10!

[hardtack 10,704]

1 hour ago, Juicebox said:

So... You're allowed to throw a few punches if a girlfriends being harrassed? What happens if the bloke who wears the punches ends up in an ICU? 

Regardless of their success, richmond are trash. Their culture is trash. 

Apparently the guy behaved inappropriately with Riolli's GF, Rioli remonstrated, the guy punched Rioli in the eye and Bolton stepped in to defend both Rioli and his GF.  Your assumption was pretty much trash.

Edit: I would prefer to see the clubs place a ban on players going to clubs etc during the season, so that if such things happen, the players can be disciplined.  They are supposed to be highly paid professional athletes, and by putting themselves in a position where 'heroes' might try it on with them, they are not doing the club any favours.

Edited May 10, 2021 by hardtack

[Dee Zephyr 19,269]

1 hour ago, siam juntaRus said:

Why would AFL players take gf's to a sleazy nightclub? Go to a restaurant with Dustin. I thought they went  to clubs to get picked  up  by groupies ..re  Geelong. Stkilda in past days. Do AFLW girls go to nightclubs? lol

They stated on 360 they were out celebrating Bolton’s girlfriend’s birthday. 

[Lord Nev 13,512]

6 minutes ago, hardtack said:

Apparently the guy behaved inappropriately with Riolli's GF, Rioli remonstrated, the guy punched Rioli in the eye and Bolton stepped in to defend both Rioli and his GF.  Your assumption was pretty much trash.

Edit: I would prefer to see the clubs place a ban on players going to clubs etc during the season, so that if such things happen, the players can be disciplined.  They are supposed to be highly paid professional athletes, and by putting themselves in a position where 'heroes' might try it on with them, they are not doing the club any favours.

That's the one side of the story that has been granted media coverage so far. You're the one making assumptions that it's the full and correct story and is all as black and white (or black and yellow) as Richmond FC Inc. have made out.

Juicebox is right to say you put yourself in risk of serious consequences when you decide violence is the way to deal with issues like this. Ask Patrick Cronin's family.

[kev martin 10,501]

14 minutes ago, hardtack said:

Your assumption was pretty much trash.

Why?

The woman would handle it much better without a male "having to stand up".

The men should leave it alone. Then thank the women for her calmness and skill.

Blokes should keep out of it. 

It is not a competition for the female. It is an unwarranted advance by a male.

Our society is stamping out this toxic male behaviour in the workplace.

Hoping all that social pressure reforms the public spaces as well.

Hashing, me too movement, is making small steps.

Males who can't communicate without anger should go get training.

Edited May 10, 2021 by kev martin

[hardtack 10,704]

Just now, kev martin said:

Why?

The woman would handle it much better without a male "having to stand up".

The men should leave it alone. Then thank the women for her calmness and skill.

Blokes should keep out of it. 

It not not a competition for the female. It is an unwarranted advance by a male.

Our society is stamping out this toxic male behaviour in the workplace.

Hoping all that social pressure reforms the public spaces as well.

Hashing, me too movement is making small steps.

Males who can't communicate without anger should go get training.

Had you considered that perhaps Rioli's GF was not handling the situation well, or that the offender was too munted to understand that his attention wasn't appreciated.  I agree that toxic male behaviour should be rubbed out, but as we are not privy to the whole situation, we are both probably best not commenting.  The reason I called the original comment trash, was that it immediately assumed that Rioli and Bolton must have been the aggressors, based purely on the fact that they play for Richmond.

[don cordner 204]

17 minutes ago, hardtack said:

Apparently the guy behaved inappropriately with Riolli's GF, Rioli remonstrated, the guy punched Rioli in the eye and Bolton stepped in to defend both Rioli and his GF.  Your assumption was pretty much trash.

Edit: I would prefer to see the clubs place a ban on players going to clubs etc during the season, so that if such things happen, the players can be disciplined.  They are supposed to be highly paid professional athletes, and by putting themselves in a position where 'heroes' might try it on with them, they are not doing the club any favours.

lol if u believe that story

[hardtack 10,704]

7 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

That's the one side of the story that has been granted media coverage so far. You're the one making assumptions that it's the full and correct story and is all as black and white (or black and yellow) as Richmond FC Inc. have made out.

Juicebox is right to say you put yourself in risk of serious consequences when you decide violence is the way to deal with issues like this. Ask Patrick Cronin's family.

My issue with Juicebox's comment was that he automatically assumed that the Richmond players were the first to throw punches and that it was just further evidence that they are trash with a trash culture. 

[Lord Nev 13,512]

4 minutes ago, hardtack said:

The reason I called the original comment trash, was that it immediately assumed that Rioli and Bolton must have been the aggressors, based purely on the fact that they play for Richmond.

That's not what it said. It said "their culture are trash". Regardless of 'defending a female', punching on in a nightclub is not grown up behaviour nor a sign of good culture.

There's plenty of examples over the last few years that indicate their off field culture is poor.

[kev martin 10,501]

25 minutes ago, hardtack said:

Had you considered that perhaps Rioli's GF was not handling the situation well, or that the offender was too munted to understand that his attention wasn't appreciated.  I agree that toxic male behaviour should be rubbed out, but as we are not privy to the whole situation, we are both probably best not commenting.  The reason I called the original comment trash, was that it immediately assumed that Rioli and Bolton must have been the aggressors, based purely on the fact that they play for Richmond.

I see your point.

"Not handling the situation" will only be exacerbated as the men started knocking heads together. 

The women know how to handle it.

If she needs help, her sister (strangers) are right there to jump in. Just need to yell for help.

I'll say it again, the men who cannot communicate without aggression should stay well away.

I will comment on these type of situation though I have no idea of the actions, only the outcome, because it is a dominant societal problem. Especially since, male violence is in that tribal game of AFL. With examples on and off the field by all clubs and as a representative section of our community  Without education about how to express appropriate assertiveness, we are all deminished.

End male on male violence. 

Edited May 10, 2021 by kev martin

[Lord Nev 13,512]

1 minute ago, hardtack said:

My issue with Juicebox's comment was that he automatically assumed that the Richmond players were the first to throw punches and that it was just further evidence that they are trash with a trash culture. 

That's not what it said, that's how you took it. See above.