37 minutes ago, Pates said:

That’s it and he’ll be hungry for more chances, obviously I don’t want this to happen but if a player goes down coming up to a critical game (dare I say final) he’ll be prepared for the call up to fill in. 

That was an awful, gutting miss. Redemption comes from opportunity, maybe this week?

I sincerely hope it is Pates but if he is promoted to the senior side this week it's just as likely he'll be dropped back to the magoos within a month to find some form. 

4 hours ago, Tarax Club said:

Agreed JG, the notion of bringing in both Brown and Weidemann together and they immediately fit in harmoniously, with other forwards and mid-fielders is questionable. It will take time to develop synergy between, what is currently working well and adding new components. It will not necessarily be a matter of flicking on a switch and it automatically happens. As noted by other posters on this thread, Sam Weidemann may be the forward inclusion of first choice by selectors. Surprisingly Ben Brown may be allowed further opportunity in the VFL to get ‘cherry right’ for Blundstone Arena.  

A great position for the club to be in, not merely holding the fort for the calvary to arrive, to get the season going. But now holding high ladder position with a number of hard working and talented players strongly desiring  to be part of it.

Brown and Petty came in and did OK, not great. Weid and May (who have both been in the side for long stretches in the past) will be significantly better, even before you consider their improved talent/physical traits when compared to Brown/Petty.

Edited April 21, 20214 yr by Chook

11 hours ago, JimmyGadson said:

Whichever tall comes in will need to work wonders with Jacko and T Mac in regards to leading patterns, opening space and spreading the Tiges defence. 

If we fail at that, I cant see us winning no matter our midfield dominance. 

If our players enter forward 50 as they did for three quarters against Hawthorn and our key talls lead to bad spots, we'll be punished. 

Need to plan and execute. Can't rely on our sheer talent to get us over the line against this mob. 

This is the biggest issue our team faces if we are to improve and contend. We've improved significantly in the areas where we don't have the ball - the pressure from Spargo, ANB & Kozzie is forcing front half turnovers and even TMac & Fritsch have ramped up their tackling & pressure games.

Where the improvement is less apparent is when we have the ball. Our forward line is often stagnant or we have players leading to the one spot. That really limits the options for the ball carrier coming forward. Supporters often criticise mids for "the long bomb" to the goal square but when your forwards don't offer an alternative................... you can "lower your eyes" all you like but if there's nothing coming at you, all you can do is go long.

There are plenty of examples where we've hit up forwards on the lead this season but the movement needs to be constant. When sides flood back like GWS did and it looks like there's no space, forwards still have to lead. It's as much about drawing defenders, disrupting their zone & creating space for your fellow forwards as it is about getting hit lace out & having a shot at goal. Forwards working for each other. Selfless.

15 hours ago, A F said:

Spot on. Too many don't watch the game closely enough. Tomlinson is very very solid. Petty was shaky until midway through the third. 

 

Shaky? - Scary was what we were thinking and , albeit never having seen him before, wonderered what the hype was that he got a game.

He did improve and showed courage in later plays so hopefully its an experienec thing only. 

It’s unbelievable that Fritsch and May could return this week. But if only one, I hope it’s May. He’s more important to our success. Having said that, our goal kicking is our weakness. I don’t know who should be in the forward line this weekend. I just hope the decisions prove to be successful.

10 hours ago, Go the Biff said:

This is the biggest issue our team faces if we are to improve and contend. We've improved significantly in the areas where we don't have the ball - the pressure from Spargo, ANB & Kozzie is forcing front half turnovers and even TMac & Fritsch have ramped up their tackling & pressure games.

Where the improvement is less apparent is when we have the ball. Our forward line is often stagnant or we have players leading to the one spot. That really limits the options for the ball carrier coming forward. Supporters often criticise mids for "the long bomb" to the goal square but when your forwards don't offer an alternative................... you can "lower your eyes" all you like but if there's nothing coming at you, all you can do is go long.

There are plenty of examples where we've hit up forwards on the lead this season but the movement needs to be constant. When sides flood back like GWS did and it looks like there's no space, forwards still have to lead. It's as much about drawing defenders, disrupting their zone & creating space for your fellow forwards as it is about getting hit lace out & having a shot at goal. Forwards working for each other. Selfless.

Are we not #1 in the comp for marks inside forward 50? 

10 hours ago, Go the Biff said:

Where the improvement is less apparent is when we have the ball. Our forward line is often stagnant or we have players leading to the one spot. That really limits the options for the ball carrier coming forward. Supporters often criticise mids for "the long bomb" to the goal square but when your forwards don't offer an alternative................... you can "lower your eyes" all you like but if there's nothing coming at you, all you can do is go long.

TMac is not a natural forward. The addition of BB and the Weid and their forward nouse will back a big difference here

It would be difficult to drop a number of blokes who played their role, but if we want to get serious, the sooner we get our preferred line up in, the better. We want to be winning games in September and this 5-0 start has given us a great chance to feature.

In: Weid, Brown, May, Fritsch

Out: T-Mac, M.Brown, Petty, Melksham

Each of those ins is better than the out, so it makes sense.

On Gus & Gawny podcast, Ben Gibson was seeming quite skeptical about May & Fritsch being right.

 

2 minutes ago, BW511 said:

It would be difficult to drop a number of blokes who played their role, but if we want to get serious, the sooner we get our preferred line up in, the better. We want to be winning games in September and this 5-0 start has given us a great chance to feature.

In: Weid, Brown, May, Fritsch

Out: T-Mac, M.Brown, Petty, Melksham

Each of those ins is better than the out, so it makes sense.

On Gus & Gawny podcast, Ben Gibson was seeming quite skeptical about May & Fritsch being right.

 

Drop Tmac?

Come on mate 

2 minutes ago, BW511 said:

It would be difficult to drop a number of blokes who played their role, but if we want to get serious, the sooner we get our preferred line up in, the better. We want to be winning games in September and this 5-0 start has given us a great chance to feature.

In: Weid, Brown, May, Fritsch

Out: T-Mac, M.Brown, Petty, Melksham

Each of those ins is better than the out, so it makes sense.

On Gus & Gawny podcast, Ben Gibson was seeming quite skeptical about May & Fritsch being right.

 

Tmac won't be dropped as long as his form  is Up to scratch.

20 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

If Fritsch is right (doubtful) I have a feeling he might come in for Melksham. Fox Footy's 'selection whispers' is saying his spot is under some heat.

Weid for Brown a lock, May for Petty all but locked in, IMO.

 

There is no doubt that of these two, Fritsch is the better player, with more recent runs on the board who will give the team a lot more output.

However I can't see them dropping Melksham after kicking 3 goals last week, and he probably deserves a run of games before we put a line through him.

Unless Fritsch is 100% fit, there is no point risking him when we have so many other options. 

23 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

I’m going BBB over Weideman at this stage.

I do see room for them both at some stage.

If they are both on a par fitness wise, I'd go for BBrown over the Weed. Great news from May - hopefully; Fritta expected news so good luck with the Friday medical assessment - you're too useful to be left out.

I have been convincing myself that after 7 goals Wied is a must in.

Listening to Goody I get the feeling reading bw the lines that it might be Bbb called up.

Just a feeling but Im now wondering which would be the best.

I guess Bbb is a big footy name as one of the best proven forwards in the last five years so theres that.

Bringing him in is like adding our own Lynch so now Im thinking this is what will happen.

One of them is a must and I cant wait to see how it pans out.

 

34 minutes ago, MF-C said:

Drop Tmac?

Come on mate 

I am not saying he's been bad but I want Weid and Brown in the side more than T-Mac, particularly for the latter half of the year.

I don't believe T-Mac will be in the side once BBB, Weid and Fritsch are all playing so let's rip the bandaid off and start building some cohesion for a tilt at finals

I propose we start a Super League for all our excess players we can’t squeeze into the first team. 

5 minutes ago, Deestroy All said:

I propose we start a Super League for all our excess players we can’t squeeze into the first team. 

All I know is Sparrow better not be the bloody sub again.. let the kid play somewhere.

3 hours ago, Demon17 said:

Shaky? - Scary was what we were thinking and , albeit never having seen him before, wonderered what the hype was that he got a game.

He did improve and showed courage in later plays so hopefully its an experienec thing only. 

He'll be good, but I don't want him in against this Richmond team.

2 hours ago, BW511 said:

I am not saying he's been bad but I want Weid and Brown in the side more than T-Mac, particularly for the latter half of the year.

I don't believe T-Mac will be in the side once BBB, Weid and Fritsch are all playing so let's rip the bandaid off and start building some cohesion for a tilt at finals

If Weid comes in I hope he plays a blinder, but why are people assuming he'll be better than TMac is playing at the moment.

22 minutes ago, loges said:

If Weid comes in I hope he plays a blinder, but why are people assuming he'll be better than TMac is playing at the moment.

He may not be better first up but he will be in the long run. Unfortunately, someone has to go out and the wing is fairly sorted for now, so where else does T-Mac go?

The performance ceiling is higher with the Weid/BBB combo than T-Mac/BBB or T-Mac/M.Brown

Edited April 22, 20214 yr by BW511

No changes for me. If it's all about confidence and  team first, see how they go...

4 minutes ago, willmoy said:

No changes for me

You wouldn't find a spot for May if he's good to go?

1 hour ago, demonstone said:

You wouldn't find a spot for May if he's good to go?

I just wouldn't muck around with something as potentially long lasting as the eye and surrounding areas of the face. Especially as we have options, and its only May.

2 hours ago, BW511 said:

He may not be better first up but he will be in the long run. Unfortunately, someone has to go out and the wing is fairly sorted for now, so where else does T-Mac go?

The performance ceiling is higher with the Weid/BBB combo than T-Mac/BBB or T-Mac/M.Brown

Better than TMac/BBB. Not so sure about that.

31 minutes ago, willmoy said:

its only May.

"Only" May?   He's our best defender and a star of the competition.  Of course, he would need the medical all clear, but you wouldn't leave out one of your premier players if he was fit and available.  Definite "in" for mine, replacing Petty.

sounds like a clean

May, Weid IN

Petty, MBrown OUT this week

predict tmac for a quiet game next week and then he and either melk dropped or jones managed OUT for BBrown and Fritsch for the roos game