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Is there any info from training? There does not seem to have been any training threads for weeks.

 

I dont get it it, this is from April the 15th:
 

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Melbourne forward Bayley Fritsch will miss the Demons’ Round 5 clash with Hawthorn after sustaining a fractured hand at training on Thursday.

Fritsch will undergo surgery on Thursday evening and is expected to spend one to two weeks on the sidelines.

 

Fractured hand + surgery and only one week out?

  On 23/04/2021 at 03:13, MF-C said:

Interesting if Fritta gets up. 

I'd hope he's cherry ripe. 

 

It was his right hand so non ball drop hand for his preferred. Should def be fresh in the legs. Fingers crossed!

 
  On 23/04/2021 at 02:23, Yokozuna said:

Yep. Only 2. 
richmond very good defensively, especially running from their defensive 50. 
so not optimal to bring in people who have played less than 2 games in prep and also under the heat of that game. 
also the current forward structure has worked well (except accuracy). 
have a feeling brown or weed in next week and/or when injuries or poor form warrant it. 

Makes sense.

Particularly when the tall options - Weed and Brown, have shown an aversion to tackling and applying pressure.

We simply have to apply maximum inside 50 pressure to beat Richmond.

One to trap it inside our 50 when possible (and create scoring chances in doing so), but perhaps more importantly disrupt their  exits from our 50.

If they are allowed to waltz it our 50 it will become so much harder to set up ahead of the ball and slow down their transition.  And we will get flogged. 

Which by the by, is why any talk of ANB or Spargo being dropped is pure poppycock. 

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      On 23/04/2021 at 03:36, binman said:

    Makes sense.

    Particularly when the tall option - Weed and Brown, have shown an aversion to tackling and applying pressure.

    We simply have to apply maximum inside 50 pressure to beat Richmond.

    One to trap it inside our 50 when possible (and create scoring chances in doing so), but perhaps more importantly disrupt their  exits from our 50.

    If they are allowed to waltz it our 50 it will become so much harder to set up ahead of the ball and slow down their transition.  And we will get flogged. 

    Which by the by is any talk of ANB or Spargo being dropped is pure poppycock. 

    Could not agree more Binman?

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    Both Fritsch and May according to reports trained 

    If @Yokozuna's mail is good (and IIRC it usually is), big call bringing in neither of Weideman or B Brown.

    Maybe after his 300th Jones might find himself in the sub role to free up a spot in the 22 for Weid/Brown?

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      On 23/04/2021 at 03:08, Hannibal Inc. said:

    It's hardly ''leaking''.

    For decades Saturday teams were released on Thursdays.

    We bloody well should know by now anyway.

    Bloody oath we should. It is frustrating they don't at least release the squads.

    There is talk that this club driven thing but that doesn't ring true. All clubs would have a handle on who their opposition's likely squad of 25 players would be.

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    I would say that melksham and jones know they are under the pump to play well. 
    T Mac is in the same boat. 
    LJ less so as he plays ruck and I do it think the club wants weed or brown in the ruck. although weed could possibly play LJs role, just not with as much athleticism 

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    I'm in the 'May for Petty, Weideman for M.Brown' crowd, and also if available Fritsch for Melksham. However, I won't be too upset if Melksham stays in as he began to show a bit of what he is useful for and Melksham in form is a killer half-forward.

    Figuring out how to fit B.Brown in will be a challenge in coming weeks, and soon enough Harmes will come in for Jones 'rested' but other than that there's not much to fidget with.

    I guess that's what 5-0 looks like.

     

     

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      On 23/04/2021 at 02:23, Yokozuna said:

    Yep. Only 2. 
    richmond very good defensively, especially running from their defensive 50. 
    so not optimal to bring in people who have played less than 2 games in prep and also under the heat of that game. 
    also the current forward structure has worked well (except accuracy). 
    have a feeling brown or weed in next week and/or when injuries or poor form warrant it. 

    Would seem to be at least 3; Petty, M Brown and Sparrow didn’t train. Fritta, May, Weid and Chandler did. And there were 24 training so must be a question over one of them.

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      On 23/04/2021 at 03:49, Tim said:

    Would seem to be at least 3; Petty, M Brown and Sparrow didn’t train. Fritta, May, Weid and Chandler did. And there were 24 training so must be a question over one of them.

    Not necessarily. 22 players. One medical sub. And an emergency

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      On 23/04/2021 at 03:49, Tim said:

    Would seem to be at least 3; Petty, M Brown and Sparrow didn’t train. Fritta, May, Weid and Chandler did. And there were 24 training so must be a question over one of them.

    I am unsure of who will be the emergencies, but May and Fritsch will be in the starting lineup/bench

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      On 23/04/2021 at 03:47, Yokozuna said:

    I would say that melksham and jones know they are under the pump to play well. 
    T Mac is in the same boat. 
    LJ less so as he plays ruck and I do it think the club wants weed or brown in the ruck. although weed could possibly play LJs role, just not with as much athleticism 

    Opinion or source-based?

      On 23/04/2021 at 03:49, Little Goffy said:

    I'm in the 'May for Petty, Weideman for M.Brown' crowd, and also if available Fritsch for Melksham. However, I won't be too upset if Melksham stays in as he began to show a bit of what he is useful for and Melksham in form is a killer half-forward.

    Figuring out how to fit B.Brown in will be a challenge in coming weeks, and soon enough Harmes will come in for Jones 'rested' but other than that there's not much to fidget with.

    I guess that's what 5-0 looks like.

    Not sure about Harmes getting Jones' spot. We may find that we need to roll TMac or Jackson up the ground to fit B Brown/Weideman into the forward line.

      On 23/04/2021 at 03:49, Tim said:

    Would seem to be at least 3; Petty, M Brown and Sparrow didn’t train. Fritta, May, Weid and Chandler did. And there were 24 training so must be a question over one of them.

    Sparrow was the sub and we haven't made anyone the sub in consecutive weeks when they didn't play (Sparrow was the sub vs Geelong as well as Hawthorn, but played 60%-odd after May went down).

    So you'd therefore think that Sparrow will either get into the 22 or play for Casey this week.

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      On 23/04/2021 at 03:52, binman said:

    Not necessarily. 22 players. One medical sub. And an emergency

    Yes but...they usually only train 23 on Captain’s Run.

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      On 23/04/2021 at 03:54, titan_uranus said:

    Opinion or source-based?

    Not sure about Harmes getting Jones' spot. We may find that we need to roll TMac or Jackson up the ground to fit B Brown/Weideman into the forward line.

    Sparrow was the sub and we haven't made anyone the sub in consecutive weeks when they didn't play (Sparrow was the sub vs Geelong as well as Hawthorn, but played 60%-odd after May went down).

    So you'd therefore think that Sparrow will either get into the 22 or play for Casey this week.

    Would expect to see Tom with Casey.

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    Christ these footballers are super human. They sustain serious injuries and bounce right back. It's pretty unbelievable. 

    I would retire immediately if someone broke my eye socket. 

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    Richmond's the last side you'd bring in undercooked players who missed 6-8 weeks of training in Feb/March.

    I'm in favour of no Weid and certainly no BBB this weekend. But one or both will need to be integrated into the side in the coming weeks.

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      On 23/04/2021 at 02:23, Yokozuna said:

    Yep. Only 2. 
    richmond very good defensively, especially running from their defensive 50. 
    so not optimal to bring in people who have played less than 2 games in prep and also under the heat of that game. 
    also the current forward structure has worked well (except accuracy). 
    have a feeling brown or weed in next week and/or when injuries or poor form warrant it. 

    I would suggest it might rain too, so having a more mobile forward set up will likely cause greater headaches for Richmond's defence. I'm happy with this selection decision.

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      On 23/04/2021 at 02:23, Yokozuna said:

    Yep. Only 2. 
    richmond very good defensively, especially running from their defensive 50. 
    so not optimal to bring in people who have played less than 2 games in prep and also under the heat of that game. 
    also the current forward structure has worked well (except accuracy). 
    have a feeling brown or weed in next week and/or when injuries or poor form warrant it. 

    I also like this approach. It’s aggressive, and shows plenty of confidence in those who have us sitting  5 zip.  We need match hardened players against the tiggies, and one or two good performances in a very much weaker VFL competition doesn’t necessarily ‘cut it’, regardless of your name.  How long has it been since we have had the ‘depth’ to make this sort of call at selection?

      On 23/04/2021 at 03:19, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

    I dont get it it, this is from April the 15th:
     

    Fractured hand + surgery and only one week out?

    Pretty sure Fritsch went into Epworth the night he fractured his hand & had a plate of some description put in. So the bone's essentially protected & the issue is how quickly he recovers from the surgical wound. In that context, missing one game is not unreasonable.

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    Hearing Weid not in.

     
      On 23/04/2021 at 03:58, Tim said:

    Would expect to see Tom with Casey.

    After his start to this year, no way.

    He will be playing Saturday night, unless a mystery injury, but then he wouldn't be playing for Casey either.

      On 23/04/2021 at 04:42, Clintosaurus said:

    Hearing Weid not in.

    That would be amazing after 7 goals for Casey and M. Brown not training and injured.

    Think you are wrong. 


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