2021 List and Contract Details

[FritschyBusiness 1,478]

12 minutes ago, Older demon said:

Thank you Luci or should I say Premiers

Thus far it is 4 of the senior list and 2 of the rookie, correct me if I am wrong. Given that Chandler was emergency for the GF I expect he may go onto the senior list. As I understand it we currently only have 3 draft picks for 3 vacancies if Kade is upgraded. Those picks are 33, 42 & 54 and if he is is still available after pick 20 we may use one on Mac Andrew. I don't see us being very active in the draft.

Brown & Daw are interesting and can choose to go elsewhere having already been delisted once. Smith, Declase and Turner one can hardly assess given the limited opportunities. Might be a quiet trade year for us,

I agree with your assesment of Chandler.
I got a feeling Daw will get a contract, Gawn says he is great to ruck against in training.
Declase and Turner highly rated by choco and all the players love Turner around the club
I hope the club drafts Taj Woewodin

[deelusions from afar 1,810]

Hope we use 3 picks in the draft (is the rule we have to?).  Taylor has shown he can find talent in the 2nd / 3rd round - as good as Melksham has been for us (particularly) in 2018, I'd rather use another pick than keep him on the list.  He's good enough to play at the top level but doesn't seem to buy into our team first style in the way that we need.

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3 hours ago, deelusions from afar said:

Hope we use 3 picks in the draft (is the rule we have to?).  Taylor has shown he can find talent in the 2nd / 3rd round - as good as Melksham has been for us (particularly) in 2018, I'd rather use another pick than keep him on the list.  He's good enough to play at the top level but doesn't seem to buy into our team first style in the way that we need.

The rule is we need to use at least 3 draft pics which can be  either taking a player from the draft or upgrading a rookie.  We also have pick 91 in round 5 and 109 in round 6 which can be used to upgrade rookies.  

We have 4 list spots so we can keep Melksham, upgrade a rookie and take 3 picks to the draft or trade in players. 

[Dee-licious 1,953]

11 minutes ago, Premiers said:

The rule is we need to use at least 3 draft pics which can be  either taking a player from the draft or upgrading a rookie.  We also have pick 91 in round 5 and 109 in round 6 which can be used to upgrade rookies.  

We have 4 list spots so we can keep Melksham, upgrade a rookie and take 3 picks to the draft or trade in players. 

Jordon will be upgraded - so there is one. Then we have assumably Woewodin and my personal favourite Moniz-Wakefield as the other two :) So no problems there. I'd assume Chandler would be joining the senior list at some point as well. 

[BScotti 178]

26 minutes ago, Premiers said:

The rule is we need to use at least 3 draft pics which can be  either taking a player from the draft or upgrading a rookie.  We also have pick 91 in round 5 and 109 in round 6 which can be used to upgrade rookies.  

We have 4 list spots so we can keep Melksham, upgrade a rookie and take 3 picks to the draft or trade in players. 

we can upgrade JJ and KC, keep Melk and still have 3 picks.  that will give us 37 primary and retain our remaining 5 rookies (42 total).  or if 1 of Melk, Hore, Baker or Bedford goes then we can have 4 picks on primary - assuming we dont trade someone in

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5 hours ago, DeeZone said:

Thanks LH great effort.!!

I mean Premiers!!😀

[Turner 1,516]

On 9/28/2021 at 8:53 AM, Premiers said:

Update for: Weideman contract to 2023, departure of Vandenberg, Lockhart, Nietschke and Jetta.😢

In a way this is a changing of the guard with the departure of two stalwarts, Jones and Jetta that go back to the dark years.  

A reporter mentioned at the weekend that Hibberd will be given a one year extension which is well deserved.

Not sure what the final allowed list numbers will be for 2022 so the Current List numbers are based on what we had in 2021.  

Any errors please let me know and I will pick up with the next update.

you've only got one singular 'Jone' as an out and we still have K.Turner on the rookie list otherwise awesome work LH, also can we get a capital D in McDonald for my ocd please ;)

[Dee-licious 1,953]

Apparently Brown has a new contract and so does Baker which is a nice sign. Herald Sun also reporting that Hibberd, Chandler and Bedford are going to be signed as well. AFL reporting Daw is going to get another year. Herald Sun assume that Turner and Declase will get extensions, but Hore and Deakyn Smith will have to wait till after trade period. 

I have that as 32 senior spots (I assume that Chandler will be upgraded as well for 33) + 2 rookies (Daw + Brown). So 5-6 senior spots available if we want them. 

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16 hours ago, Turner said:

you've only got one singular 'Jone' as an out and we still have K.Turner on the rookie list otherwise awesome work LH, also can we get a capital D in McDonald for my ocd please ;)

Glad you keep me on my toes! 

I'll make the typo changes with the next update ;-)

I haven't seen an upgrade for Turner from the rookie list - Is there a reference somewhere?

[dazzledavey36 55,004]

I'm guessing these players in Chandler, Hore, Bedford, Baker, Turner and Declase have been told to wait until the trade period is over before they get contracts?

I can't see us delisting Chandler as he was emergency for the grand final which would mean he's rated fairly highly.

[Lucifers Hero 39,991]

14 hours ago, Dee-licious said:

Apparently Brown has a new contract and so does Baker which is a nice sign. Herald Sun also reporting that Hibberd, Chandler and Bedford are going to be signed as well. AFL reporting Daw is going to get another year. Herald Sun assume that Turner and Declase will get extensions, but Hore and Deakyn Smith will have to wait till after trade period. 

I have that as 32 senior spots (I assume that Chandler will be upgraded as well for 33) + 2 rookies (Daw + Brown). So 5-6 senior spots available if we want them. 

Thanks for all that.  I'll keep an eye on club website and when announced I'll update the table.

On those reports we will have only Dore as Senior list player uncontracted.  Great work by Lamb and Richardson to get so many players signed during the year.

Edited September 29, 2021 by Premiers

[Turner 1,516]

7 hours ago, Premiers said:

Glad you keep me on my toes! 

I'll make the typo changes with the next update ;-)

I haven't seen an upgrade for Turner from the rookie list - Is there a reference somewhere?

meant his name is Daniel ahaha not an update on his status hehe love your work tho 

[bing181 9,246]

14 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I'm guessing these players in Chandler, Hore, Bedford, Baker, Turner and Declase have been told to wait until the trade period is over before they get contracts?

I saw a tweet or something somewhere showing Bedford celebrating re-signing, but haven't seen any confirmation anywhere.

[Dee-licious 1,953]

10 minutes ago, bing181 said:

I saw a tweet or something somewhere showing Bedford celebrating re-signing, but haven't seen any confirmation anywhere.

It was in someone’s Insta post. Can’t remember who. 

[Whispering_Jack 30,244]

Do we have a definitive list of the numbers who are yet to be contracted at the club at this stage?
 

 

[Turner 1,516]

1 hour ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Do we have a definitive list of the numbers who are yet to be contracted at the club at this stage?
 

 

Baker, Hore, Bedford, Hibberd on the senior list and Daw, MBrown, Chandler, DSmith, Turner and Declase on the rookie list are yet to be confirmed by the club one way or another

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I think Hore is in trouble can't see them delisting D.Smith.

[Lucifers Hero 39,991]

This has the updates for:

• Mitch Brown 1 year Rookie contract
• Recruitment of Luke Dunstan for 2 years
• List and Draft details

Posters have noted above some players have been offered contracts but not yet confirmed by the club.  These are shown in green.

An important thing to note are the List size Rules at the bottom.  The overall allowed is 37 to 42 comprised of 36 to 38 Senior spots and 4-6 'A' Rookie spots.  In addition 2 'B' Rookie spots can be added for 44.  

As we currently have the max allowed 6 'A' Rookie we have only 2 Senior list spots for a total of 40.   More list spots become available if those rumoured to not have a contract, Hore, Smith and Chandler were to depart.

However, we currently have 5 live draft picks.  Pick 94 will go to upgrade Jordan.  He was contracted for 2 years in April but we still need to use a draft pick to officiate he being a Senior player.

This leaves us with 17, 37, 49, and 57.  These picks may well change and/or 37, 49 and 57 are used for Woewodin and our NGA players.  If so, we will need to free up more list spots.

Will add Dunstan to the list of 'Ins' with the next update.

[titan_uranus 25,020]

I think with today's signings, Declase and Hore are the only players left without a contract for 2022.

[Whispering_Jack 30,244]

11 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

I think with today's signings, Declase and Hore are the only players left without a contract for 2022.

I can’t see from the update here where Michael Hibberd has re-signed.

[deelusions from afar 1,810]

16 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

I can’t see from the update here where Michael Hibberd has re-signed.

I think he re-signed during the finals?

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31 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

I think with today's signings, Declase and Hore are the only players left without a contract for 2022.

Yes agree they seem to have missed out. Declase looked a good prospect. Hore very very unlucky if he’s missed out. Excellent 2019 then two years of injuries.   That would be cruel to delist him but AFL Footy is like that nowadays.  

[BigMacjnr 283]

5 hours ago, Premiers said:

As we currently have the max allowed 6 'A' Rookie we have only 2 Senior list spots for a total of 40.   More list spots become available if those rumoured to not have a contract, Hore, Smith and Chandler were to depart.

However, we currently have 5 live draft picks.  Pick 94 will go to upgrade Jordan.  He was contracted for 2 years in April but we still need to use a draft pick to officiate he being a Senior player.

This leaves us with 17, 37, 49, and 57.  These picks may well change and/or 37, 49 and 57 are used for Woewodin and our NGA players.  If so, we will need to free up more list spots.

Will add Dunstan to the list of 'Ins' with the next update.

Hi Premiers, Might have missed something but I believe I counted (not including Hore or Declase) 34 senior listed players and 4 rookies. The MFC article refers to four players being retained on the rookie list: M.Brown, Daw, Turner and D.Smith. K.Chandler appears to be getting upgraded to the senior list. 

Current rules are between 36-38 on the senior list and 4-6 Category A  and 2 Category B rookies. 

Based on this we have a couple of different options: sign up to 4 senior players (ie. 4 players in the draft), but technically we only need to add two players to the list, 1 required through the draft given Chandler and J.Jordon are both being upgraded. 

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Updated for today's signings:

• Baker and Bedford as senior players.
• Chandler, Turner, D. Smith, Daw as Rookies.

All have been assumed to be for one year.  The club's announcement is a little vague.  If anyone has seen other official info on the above please let me know.

This leaves Hore, Declase and Hibberd as unsigned altho it is reported that Hibberd has been offered a one year deal.  

On what I could find, today's signings don't change the List numbers or mix.  We have 34 senior players and 6 A Rookies for a total of 40.  The max allowed across those two categories is 42 so we have two (Senior) vacancies.  To open more vacancies we would need to lose Declase or Hore.

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20 minutes ago, BigMacjnr said:

Hi Premiers, Might have missed something but I believe I counted (not including Hore or Declase) 34 senior listed players and 4 rookies. The MFC article refers to four players being retained on the rookie list: M.Brown, Daw, Turner and D.Smith. K.Chandler appears to be getting upgraded to the senior list. 

Current rules are between 36-38 on the senior list and 4-6 Category A  and 2 Category B rookies. 

Based on this we have a couple of different options: sign up to 4 senior players (ie. 4 players in the draft), but technically we only need to add two players to the list, 1 required through the draft given Chandler and J.Jordon are both being upgraded. 

Thanks BMj.

Not sure if I'm reading your post correctly.

I'm still including Hore and Declase as they are officially still on our list.  The mfc announcement is a bit vague on Chandler's status but for now have included him as a Rookie.  So I make our count:  34 Senior players and 6 A Rookies.

As an aside, B Rookies are additional to the max total allowed of 42.  We can't substitute a senior or A rookie player for B rookies.  So at this stage our total will be 42.

Unless we move on Hore and Declase we have only 2 senior list spots and zero A Rookie spots.  

Edited October 7, 2021 by Premiers