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Demonland has made the difficult decision to not to permit this platform to be used to discuss & debate the off-field issues relating to the Melbourne Football Club including matters currently being litigated between the Club & former Board members, the culture at the club & the personal issues & allegations against some of our players & officials.

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Question about fitness and preseason surgery.

Good spot

Oliver had shoulder surgery - already started training not full contact til january

Brayshaw plate removed from foot tomorrow - won't start full training until February

No other major surgeries. Only a few other minor ones but won't impact preseason

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7 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Pert believes that if we can consistently play finals and win a premiership then we can get 75,000 and be Debt Free.

No mention how that happens.

I agree with him - the challenge is becoming a consistent finalist/challenger for a prolonged period ala Sydney, Hawks, Cats over last 20 years

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51 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Simon Goodwin

  • failed to make finals
  • acknowledged Cairns games as the reason

What was the context of this? Did he just flat out blame Cairns as a location or admit that they flubbed selection and choked against lesser teams?

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5 minutes ago, Supermercado said:

What was the context of this? Did he just flat out blame Cairns as a location or admit that they flubbed selection and choked against lesser teams?

Interestingly burgess, before responding to a question on surgeries  returned to a previous question from 'james' about the Cairns schmooze and arriving on the day and with a fair bit of feeling said it was certainly not their choice, it was the afl. And noted the opposition had two days prep in Cairns. Sounded pretty annoyed.

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2 minutes ago, binman said:

Interestingly burgess, before responding to a question on surgeries  returned to a previous question from 'james' about the Cairns schmooze and arriving on the day and with a fair bit of feeling said it was certainly not their choice, it was the afl. And noted the opposition had two days prep in Cairns. Sounded pretty annoyed.

Which I'd be prepared to get upset about... if they didn't also play Preuss as a full forward in the rain against Freo.

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3 minutes ago, binman said:

Interestingly burgess, before responding to a question on surgeries  returned to a previous question from 'james' about the Cairns schmooze and arriving on the day and with a fair bit of feeling said it was certainly not their choice, it was the afl. And noted the opposition had two days prep in Cairns. Sounded pretty annoyed.

As a Club we have to stand up and say “no way” to these situations. 
i think that is the reason why being unassisted is so important. 

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13 minutes ago, Supermercado said:

What was the context of this? Did he just flat out blame Cairns as a location or admit that they flubbed selection and choked against lesser teams?

Just mentioned that it was a schmozzle and contributed to costing finals. Nothing specific. 

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2 minutes ago, Supermercado said:

Which I'd be prepared to get upset about... if they didn't also play Preuss as a full forward in the rain against Freo.

They mentioned that we had been winning previous games due to crumbing in forward line and were unbalanced with Jackson out. I would also suggest we needed insurance for Gawn given how quickly he came back from injury and what we now know re seriousness.

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1 minute ago, Demon Disciple said:

The lack of info regarding a new home base and how far along it potentially is doesn’t fill me with confidence. We have a group that will hopefully challenge over the next few years, the much needed ‘elite’ facilities will be a couple of years too late.

It's a myth that you can't challenge without elite facilities. 

Brisbane's summer deck  / Facilities are a debacle. 

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Caught the last 10 minutes or so as they were going through the Q&A and I have to say - big props and hats off to the club for doing this and engaging the supporters in this way. Thought the Q&A might be a bit awkward and clumsy but it was really quite succinct and professionally managed – I really enjoyed seeing other Dees supporters in front of their screens knowing they were as passionate as me and not complete fruit loops. I’m sure the club carefully selected the questions but they were queries I’ve heard a lot about on this site so they haven’t shied away and it appears they might have made some ‘learnings’ along the way - only time will tell I guess.

Love this club and it was nice hearing from the people entrenched within it that they are working as hard as I hope they are. Go Dees.

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14 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

The lack of info regarding a new home base and how far along it potentially is doesn’t fill me with confidence. We have a group that will hopefully challenge over the next few years, the much needed ‘elite’ facilities will be a couple of years too late.

Don't hold your breath. I think it is still years away. They have moved to Casey for pre season training because the ground is bigger. That days to me it will not happen anytime soon. Could be at Casey for years IMO.

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18 minutes ago, old dee said:

Don't hold your breath. I think it is still years away. They have moved to Casey for pre season training because the ground is bigger. That days to me it will not happen anytime soon. Could be at Casey for years IMO.

They have moved to Casey for 2021 due to covid as far as I can tell. You're right it will be years away because by the time they select the site and actually begin work on it it will be at least another 12 months. If they get it right I don't care if it takes a few years rather than a few months. Get it done and get it done properly.

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