picket fence 18,162 Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 5 hours ago, jnrmac said: Dawson was 10x better than OMac is Dawson was close to one of the worst footballers I ever saw, period! so your post is telling! 1 Quote
BScotti 178 Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 On 10/10/2020 at 5:01 PM, Demon Dude said: OMacs worth about a token pick around the sixties if someone wants him. he could be a target for a rebuilding team as a full back for a year or two while they develop a kid to ultimately replace him. cant see anyone taking him. Delisted..... Quote
Elegt 872 Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 I guarantee all of you Omac will be delisted and will be playing local football next year, potentially even the local 2s Quote
Cranky Franky 2,270 Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 5 hours ago, picket fence said: Dawson was close to one of the worst footballers I ever saw, period! so your post is telling! Exactly - an A grade spud. He got awards as St Kilda & Freo's finals player 'cause Lyon was in love with him. Supporters at both clubs hated him. Turnover merchant with no skills. Clarkson delisted him at Hawthorn quick smart. Saints would have won a couple of flags if they'd have had a quality defender in place of Dawson. Quote
Vineytime 855 Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Elegt said: I guarantee all of you Omac will be delisted and will be playing local football next year, potentially even the local 2s You really despise the bloke hey. Quote
3183 Dee 2,917 Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Elegt said: I guarantee all of you Omac will be delisted and will be playing local football next year, potentially even the local 2s No need for that. 4 1 2 Quote
defuture15 902 Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 Would like to have seen him tried as a forward. Better kick and more agile than his brother 3 Quote
titan_uranus 25,250 Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, defuture15 said: Would like to have seen him tried as a forward. Better kick and more agile than his brother Poor mark, no physicality and timid with ball in hand. Doesn't really scream "forward". 4 Quote
Elegt 872 Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 25 minutes ago, Vineytime said: You really despise the bloke hey. No. He seems like a great bloke. I just think he is limited in his football ability. Sorry for being honest 1 Quote
old55 23,860 Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 18 hours ago, Elegt said: I guarantee all of you Omac will be delisted and will be playing local football next year, potentially even the local 2s I expect him to be DFA and on another AFL club's list next year - let's see who's right. 1 1 Quote
Dee tention 619 Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 I believe... He will be at the Bulldogs with his bro TMac! ? PS- I don’t know why people on this forum or anywhere else bash the players...! Especially Oscar. It’s not needed and tells me you are a jealous person who has ultimately failed in your own pursuit in life...! You bashers should be quit embarrassed and ashamed of yourselfs. Grow up! And I hope you don’t have kids. Because you would all be aweful parents! Aweful! ? 6 2 Quote
Elegt 872 Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 29 minutes ago, Pollyanna said: I expect him to be DFA and on another AFL club's list next year - let's see who's right. And why would another club recruit him? Quote
old55 23,860 Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Elegt said: And why would another club recruit him? KPB depth. He's not as bad as people make out here. He's a 24yo one club KPD with further development available, another club is likely to back their development capabilities, for better or worse MFC's are not generally regarded as state-of-the-art. It wouldn't surprise me if he goes on to play 150 AFL games. If he goes to another club you can buy a membership at that club - let's see how "guaranteed" you really think it is that he won't. 3 Quote
Elegt 872 Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 Just now, Pollyanna said: KPB depth. He's not as bad as people make out here. He's a 24yo one club KPD with further development available, another club is likely to back their development capabilities, for better or worse MFC's are not generally regarded as state-of-the-art. It wouldn't surprise me if he goes on to play 150 AFL games. If he goes to another club you can buy a membership at that club - let's see how "guaranteed" you really think it is that he won't. What AFL traits does he possess? I just don't possibly see how he could make 150 games. Quote
old55 23,860 Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Elegt said: What AFL traits does he possess? I just don't possibly see how he could make 150 games. He has sufficient AFL traits to play 81 AFL games including every game as a KPB in 2018, our most successful recent season. As I've posted earlier in the thread, he does have deficiencies but they are magnified in some supporters minds because they often occur on the last line and result in opposition goals. FTR, I totally agree with the idea that it's time for him to move on from MFC. Are you taking up my bet? Edited October 16, 2020 by Pollyanna 3 Quote
Elegt 872 Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 17 minutes ago, Pollyanna said: He has sufficient AFL traits to play 81 AFL games including every game as a KPB in 2018, our most successful recent season. As I've posted earlier in the thread, he does have deficiencies but they are magnified in some supporters minds because they often occur on the last line and result in opposition goals. FTR, I totally agree with the idea that it's time for him to move on from MFC. Are you taking up my bet? Hes been gifted about 70 of those games, while the remaining 11 were solid without being stand outs. He lacks aggression, competitiveness, offensive run, agility, pace, footy IQ, reading of the play, contested marking ability and strength. His best trait is his size, he is probably the biggest defender we have. Sure. I guarantee you he won't get picked up, and if he does then that club clearly hasn't watched him play 5 Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,677 Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 23 hours ago, titan_uranus said: Poor mark, no physicality and timid with ball in hand. Doesn't really scream "forward". Agree Titan. Let’s keep laughing at the suggestion he is a forward. Quote
Half forward flank 1,022 Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said: Agree Titan. Let’s keep laughing at the suggestion he is a forward. Pathetic, Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,677 Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 Laughing even more now. Quote
Turner 1,516 Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 On 10/16/2020 at 1:47 PM, Pollyanna said: I expect him to be DFA and on another AFL club's list next year - let's see who's right. i'll be pissing myself laughing when the hawks sign him up and he lines up alongside frost round 1 Quote
Deecisive 1,709 Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 i wish him luck find a new home. he put in for the club he was not necessarily the most gifted, but then have a look at most of the players we have had over the last 60 years. 1 Quote
Lord Travis 10,817 Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Turner said: i'll be pissing myself laughing when the hawks sign him up and he lines up alongside frost round 1 To be fair, Oscar and Frost were the two defensive pillars of our team that finished fourth in 2018. Neither are great players, but they’re both capable of playing their role. I wish Oscar all the best. Copped it from fans for not being a superstar and he always put in and got the best out of himself. He’s achieved more than most players drafted at pick 53. Edited October 17, 2020 by Lord Travis 13 1 Quote
Adam The God 30,706 Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 33 minutes ago, Lord Travis said: To be fair, Oscar and Frost were the two defensive pillars of our team that finished fourth in 2018. Neither are great players, but they’re both capable of playing their role. I wish Oscar all the best. Copped it from fans for not being a superstar and he always put in and got the best out of himself. He’s achieved more than most players drafted at pick 53. I've no particular problem with Oscar moving on and I wish him no ill will, but not sure I agree with this. The reason we were never really in consideration that year is because our defence leaked goals. IMV that is partly system, partly personnel. It's not coincidence the next off season we went after May. 1 1 Quote
Ted Lasso 19,586 Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 One thing the MFC does pretty well is allows young guys who aren't getting much of a look in when they could elsewhere to move to another club for opportunities with minimal fuss. Dom Tyson, Oscar McDonald, Brayden Preuss, Mitch Hannan. happy to let them go and hopefully thrive elsewhere. i think it's one of those things that does help in the bigger scheme of things 4 Quote
titan_uranus 25,250 Posted October 18, 2020 Posted October 18, 2020 23 hours ago, Lord Travis said: To be fair, Oscar and Frost were the two defensive pillars of our team that finished fourth in 2018. Neither are great players, but they’re both capable of playing their role. I wish Oscar all the best. Copped it from fans for not being a superstar and he always put in and got the best out of himself. He’s achieved more than most players drafted at pick 53. No better example of correlation vs causation than this. Oscar and Frost were, arguably, the biggest reason we didn't finish top 4 in 2018 and possibly have an even better crack at the finals. 1 Quote
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