On 22/10/2020 at 03:13, Lord Nev said:

I'll put my balls on the line for ya mate. A few things have already happened, but got some whispers (of varying degrees of source quality) to tide you over. 

Love it. Thanks mate. If we manage to hold onto Burgess and get a couple of other credentialed assistants across alongside Yze - together with the proposed player ins and outs (plus the junior Macrae!) - then I think it will be an extremely solid no-fuss off-season considering the chips we have at our disposal. Would love another small pressure forward as well though. Appreciate the update. 

  On 22/10/2020 at 03:13, Lord Nev said:

I'll put my balls on the line for ya mate. A few things have already happened, but got some whispers (of varying degrees of source quality) to tide you over. (Need the distraction from the Grand Final tbh, depressing)

OUT
TMac - All depends on medicals (ankle injury). Player and club want the change, opposition interest will determine it.
ANB - Apparently some interest from the Crows. Not a lot of noise tho, but tbf he's not an exciting player to talk about.
Preuss - Melbourne will try and do a deal to see them go up the draft order. Very keen on Macrae, who they think will be available at pick 9 (which coincidentally is likely the compo pick GWS will get for Williams).
Coaches - Plapp and Mathews gone. Very likely more to follow them.
Admin - Told earlier in the year Mahoney is likely gone. Haven't heard anything lately though. Richardson talked about as a potential replacement for him. Very very sketchy at this stage so don't bank on this one, but not sure Bartlett is 100% safe either.
Other - Still think Burgess will leave (hoping he doesn't of course).

IN
B.Brown - Pending physical, which will determine the club's interest and offer which likely then determines Brown's decision. 2nd round pick to North and a 3 year deal on 500k for Brown is the price. I know some here have talked about his nature/personality, but apparently after the zoom meeting Max was absolutely sold on him.
I.Smith - Very likely, but not a done deal yet.
Saints Player - Told we were chasing a 'young, quick' Saints player. Others here posted they heard Hind was being mentioned, so could be him, potentially could be Long.
Coaches - Leppitsch has been approached, ball totally in his court. Another former Lion also approached to get involved with the club in some capacity too (not Voss). 2 other highly rated assistants in the pipeline, but promised I wouldn't say.

Any idea what we would have to give up (along with Pruess), for pick 9? Would be very happy if we could draft Macrae.

  On 22/10/2020 at 03:13, Lord Nev said:

Preuss - Melbourne will try and do a deal to see them go up the draft order. Very keen on Macrae, who they think will be available at pick 9 (which coincidentally is likely the compo pick GWS will get for Williams).
 

Also - any idea how the club sees this one getting done? Seems a stretch at this stage. I'm in the mid-to-late-second-round camp for Preuss (would prefer if he stayed though), but not sure how a 23 and ~30ish gets us to pick 9. Future first and 23 is even pushing it. 

  On 22/10/2020 at 04:05, Skuit said:

Also - any idea how the club sees this one getting done? Seems a stretch at this stage. I'm in the mid-to-late-second-round camp for Preuss (would prefer if he stayed though), but not sure how a 23 and ~30ish gets us to pick 9. Future first and 23 is even pushing it. 

Maybe TMac in the equation with Preuss to GWS? Probably not enough to snare 9 on its own, but would move us closer to it.

Tomald and Braydon seem like a serious odd couple. Would reality TV watch that. 

  On 22/10/2020 at 04:20, 3183 Dee said:

Maybe TMac in the equation with Preuss to GWS? Probably not enough to snare 9 on its own, but would move us closer to it.

I think both players and a future pick (2nd round) could do it. Giants will have picks coming out the behind with all the trade and compensation they'll be getting. 

  On 22/10/2020 at 04:01, Dees247 said:

Any idea what we would have to give up (along with Pruess), for pick 9? Would be very happy if we could draft Macrae.

 

  On 22/10/2020 at 04:05, Skuit said:

Also - any idea how the club sees this one getting done? Seems a stretch at this stage. I'm in the mid-to-late-second-round camp for Preuss (would prefer if he stayed though), but not sure how a 23 and ~30ish gets us to pick 9. Future first and 23 is even pushing it. 

The rumour I heard was Preuss and pick 23 for pick 9. Didn't get much clarity though so gut feel is that would be the opening offer from the Dees.

Edited October 22, 20204 yr by Lord Nev

Last year the word on Langdon and Tomlinson was consistent and strong and we got them.

This year it seems to be more of 'when the lights come back on see who is sitting in our chair'?

Adam Kingsley to be announced as Nth coach 

  On 22/10/2020 at 04:38, Lord Nev said:

 

The rumour I heard was Preuss and pick 23 for pick 9. Didn't get much clarity though so gut feel is that would be the opening offer from the Dees.

More likely to be Preuss & 2021 first rounder

  On 22/10/2020 at 03:13, Lord Nev said:

Melbourne will try and do a deal to see them go up the draft order. Very keen on Macrae, who they think will be available at pick 9 (which coincidentally is likely the compo pick GWS will get for Williams).

Why would we want another medium sized midfielder who hunts the ball? 

As it is we are playing Harmes and Brayshaw out of position and we have others waiting in the wings:  Sparrow, Jordan etc.

Have we not learnt our lesson yet

  On 22/10/2020 at 05:09, Lucifer's Hero said:

Why would we want another medium sized midfielder who hunts the ball? 

As it is we are playing Harmes and Brayshaw out of position and we have others waiting in the wings:  Sparrow, Jordan etc.

Have we not learnt our lesson yet

I don't know much about potential draftees tbh. I think I remember reading somewhere he has good speed, is a good kick and can hit the scoreboard though, so that would be handy? Someone like @dazzledavey36knows way way more about draftees than me.

  On 22/10/2020 at 05:09, Lucifer's Hero said:

Why would we want another medium sized midfielder who hunts the ball? 

As it is we are playing Harmes and Brayshaw out of position and we have others waiting in the wings:  Sparrow, Jordan etc.

Have we not learnt our lesson yet

Isn’t he more of an outside mid?

  On 21/10/2020 at 05:38, the fork said:

Let's get real and breakdown mail from rumours. 

Out's

Preuss - GWS request, Player has requested. It has been suggested that his going price will be a late 30's, early 40's pick

McDonald T - likely staying unless a good deal comes for him, Rumour only

ANB - trade bait but heard nothing specific, Rumour only

Hannan - WB interest, Rumour only

Jetta - coll interest, Rumour only

 

In's?

B Brown - apparently we are frontrunners. Some rumours suggesting that Collingwood are very interested and so is he.

I Smith - apparently likely to come. Reported that we have interest but so too do the Cat's.

T Phillips - no link to dees that ive heard. Damien Barrett stated that: 'A left footed wingman. That's what the Demons want, and two have the bait in front of them: Isaac Smith and Tom Phillips.'

N Hind - rumour. Agreed.

C Hooker - read that he could seek a move possibly to Melbourne. First I've heard of it.

Rumour about Hannan was on the money, he's requested a trade home to Dogland.

  On 22/10/2020 at 06:20, Dees247 said:

Isn’t he more of an outside mid?

Haven't seen that in the pre draft briefs I've read but he could be. 

  On 22/10/2020 at 06:57, Lucifer's Hero said:

Haven't seen that in the pre draft briefs I've read but he could be. 

Judging by his highlights. He plays very similar to his brother, but at AFL level will be more suited to the wing given he's smaller, FWIW. Looks to be able to break the lines. 

  On 22/10/2020 at 04:38, Lord Nev said:

The rumour I heard was Preuss and pick 23 for pick 9. Didn't get much clarity though so gut feel is that would be the opening offer from the Dees.

If we give up 23, how do we get Brown?

  On 22/10/2020 at 07:17, bing181 said:

If we give up 23, how do we get Brown?

Just guessing, but maybe a future 2nd rounder, or a pick we get back via trade/s or potentially even trades and pick swaps as it seems like a complicated year for the draft points system etc.

  On 22/10/2020 at 07:19, Lord Nev said:

or a pick we get back via trade/s

Surely the only decent pick we might have coming back via trades would be for Tommy Mac? Presumably GWS will have a ***load of picks coming back from their mass exodus, perhaps they'll be more inclined to sprinkle a little of that fairy dust our way.

They won't give away pick 9 for Preuss and 23. No way that is happening.

  On 22/10/2020 at 07:26, bing181 said:

Surely the only decent pick we might have coming back via trades would be for Tommy Mac? Presumably GWS will have a ***load of picks coming back from their mass exodus, perhaps they'll be more inclined to sprinkle a little of that fairy dust our way.

Maybe. It's possible there will still be a surprise or two in trade period, just a hunch.

I'm more wondering if we can use the points system to our advantage given we're likely to have a density of picks between say 30-50 through a combo of our existing picks and trades. There's also future pick trading that could happen.

  On 22/10/2020 at 06:38, cantstandyasam said:

Rumour about Hannan was on the money, he's requested a trade home to Dogland.

Not surprising since it was announced in the media about a week ago...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theage.com.au/sport/afl/demons-hannan-on-western-bulldogs-trade-radar-20201014-p5651k.html

Kangas offered Brown 750 4 year deal,  a year ago. Value him about half that now for their own reasons, some to do with off field but not the usual bad behaviour, drugs, booze etc. Club politics being one.

Could it be as simple as the Roos are culling the list of players that won’t be a part of their next finals campaign? A full blown rebuild. 

Edited October 22, 20204 yr by Ethan Tremblay

  On 22/10/2020 at 04:48, Demons11 said:

Adam Kingsley to be announced as Nth coach 

Yeah, real bugger. Was hoping we'd land him as midfield coach.