I'm slightly circumspect on Saad's kicking and his defensive abilities, but if Essendon traded him for an injured Tom McDonald and our pick 22, that would be hilarious. He'd slot straight in off half back and Tom McDonald would slot straight in to Daniher's rehab group.

Anyone thinking Saad is worth a first rounder have rocks in their heads...

Not a chance...2nd rounder is about right but I would be looking elsewhere to be honest.

I'd do Harmes + Second rounder.

I know Harmes isn't getting a game at the moment but as we all know being played out of position.

Essendon lack midfielders with a bit of grunt and dash. He would slot into their side an be a good performer

1 hour ago, rjay said:

Anyone thinking Saad is worth a first rounder have rocks in their heads...

Not a chance...2nd rounder is about right but I would be looking elsewhere to be honest.

Agree no way is he a first rounder. 

Cal Twomey and Riley Beveridge just said hes end of first to early second (so 18-25 range).

https://www.afl.com.au/video/501356/trade-q-a-roos-target-star-don-rivals-circle-free-agent-eagle?videoId=501356&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1600226559001

1 hour ago, Bates Mate said:

I'd do Harmes + Second rounder.

I know Harmes isn't getting a game at the moment but as we all know being played out of position.

Essendon lack midfielders with a bit of grunt and dash. He would slot into their side an be a good performer

I don't think so Adrian...

It's an interesting one.  Firstly, to see us linked to someone in the media means we are really in for them.  We don't often get linked to many players, so when we do come up, it shows that we mean business.  We aren't a Norf type where we throw cash at anyone and everyone.  It's pretty clear that we identify a few targets and go after them.  I think it's been a good strategy so far.

On the one hand, Saad brings something to our side we are crying out for - run, dash and good foot skills.  How good would it look to see him streaming through the guts off half back to hit Weideman on the chest 40 out?  He would fit in perfectly in this regard.

On the other hand, he is not well known for his defensive work, which is something Goodwin and our back six pride themselves on.  Would he fit in there?  Would he upset the chemistry we have down there in that regard?

I think an early second rounder is about right.  If the club think he is better than what is available in the draft, then I'd be happy with trading the second rounder we have for him... if that would turn out to be enough, and if he does decide to leave.

Hmmm, I wonder if we will crack the Saad(s)

4 hours ago, Dr.D said:

Love Saad. McDonald has little trade currency so i'd imagine melbourne would trade their 2 second rounders for a first round selection and trade that for Saad.

?he is not worth a 1st rd pick unless it’s very late 

Edited September 16, 20204 yr by Demons11

1 hour ago, Wunders said:

Cal Twomey and Riley Beveridge just said hes end of first to early second (so 18-25 range).

https://www.afl.com.au/video/501356/trade-q-a-roos-target-star-don-rivals-circle-free-agent-eagle?videoId=501356&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1600226559001

That’s about the range

Sad state of affairs when the only bloke on our horizon is Adam Saad! Geez, how long were we a destination club for, 5 minutes?

1 hour ago, Wunders said:

Cal Twomey and Riley Beveridge just said hes end of first to early second (so 18-25 range).

https://www.afl.com.au/video/501356/trade-q-a-roos-target-star-don-rivals-circle-free-agent-eagle?videoId=501356&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1600226559001

This has to be combined with his salary ask.  (What is he asking?) He will be OOC so if Dons won't agree his terms..

North, Adelaide etc are in a good position to pick him up for nothing

Essendon may have to take best offer

Assuming Viney and T Mac leave the salary could be manageable but tight given our player mix.

Edited September 16, 20204 yr by Diamond_Jim

saad for hawks' 2nd rounder would be okay

saad for that and t mac is significant overs for mine

if they lose daniher they'll need a tall to come - hell, they need one now, with hooker and hurley both closer to retirement than their best - as they seem to be lacking big players

i still don't think saad is all that special 

13 minutes ago, bobby1554 said:

Sad state of affairs when the only bloke on our horizon is Adam Saad!

How do you know there aren't others we're looking at?

6 hours ago, NeveroddoreveN said:

Lucky you are not negotiating then!  Saad is a gun that would be in first 6-8 players picked every week for us.  If he's available we should be offering 4-5 years and get him in.  He could take Fritsch role of last season at half back, this year it has been Harmes spot.  Saad would be massive upgrade on either.  I can only think of Zac Williams that comes close to the flair of this guy in his role.

Dodoro may be hard to deal with but not impossible.  Essendon love him because he tries to negotiate good deals for them.  If it were Peter Bell i could understand being more circumspect!  I can think of plenty worse...

Essendon have offered him a 4 year deal. They want him. They won’t be letting him go unless they get way overs. I wouldn’t be getting involved. 

11 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

saad for hawks' 2nd rounder would be okay

saad for that and t mac is significant overs for mine

if they lose daniher they'll need a tall to come - hell, they need one now, with hooker and hurley both closer to retirement than their best - as they seem to be lacking big players

i still don't think saad is all that special 

Not if they take his salary. We clearly don't see much of a future for him, I think his body is cooked to be honest. If we can move 500k+ off our books for the next 2 years that is better than a draft pick now with free agency.

I would have no hesitation in letting tmac go for a 4th round pick assuming the club takes his salary. 

18 minutes ago, GCDee said:

Not if they take his salary. We clearly don't see much of a future for him, I think his body is cooked to be honest. If we can move 500k+ off our books for the next 2 years that is better than a draft pick now with free agency.

I would have no hesitation in letting tmac go for a 4th round pick assuming the club takes his salary. 

but it'd be just shifting from one to another

whatever we're paying t mac is not going to be significantly different to what we'd have to pay saad

3 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

but it'd be just shifting from one to another

whatever we're paying t mac is not going to be significantly different to what we'd have to pay saad

What we get from them will likely be vastly different though.

1 minute ago, Lord Nev said:

What we get from them will likely be vastly different though.

mos def

if we bring in saad on big coin i wouldn't want to be paying a part of t mac's salary somewhere else

Why do people throw up names like Harmes and McDonald like they have much trade value?

We wouldn't want a player from another bottom 8 team that isn't getting a game but we're expecting other teams to want to?

5 hours ago, Dr.D said:

 

Harmes has value and any team lacking midfield grunt would happily snap him up.

With that said, I wouldn’t trade him for Saad.

Edited September 16, 20204 yr by TeamPlayedFine39

20 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

but it'd be just shifting from one to another

whatever we're paying t mac is not going to be significantly different to what we'd have to pay saad

I'd prefer to pay the money to a player that will be best 22 rather than a forward who will be playing in the 2s. 

peptides would be well within their rights to ask for brayshaw

5 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

peptides would be well within their rights to ask for brayshaw

And they would be well within their rights to get stuffed.

52 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

Why do people throw up names like Harmes and McDonald like they have much trade value?

We wouldn't want a player from another bottom 8 team that isn't getting a game but we're expecting other teams to want to?

Haven't seen anyone saying they have high trade value.

Just like every recruit doesn't have to be a gun, or every re-signing is on big coin.