POSTGAME: Rd 13 vs Western Bulldogs

[Pickett2Jackson 3,904]

57 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

Goody: Hey Richo has the game started yet?

Richo: Yes Simon

Goody: Oh ok I better make a move. 

Richo: Might be a bit late. 

Goody: Why

Richo: The game has finished Simon. 

Goody: Oh bugger oh well at lest we can take some learnings out of it. 

Richo: Yeah that’s a brilliant idea Simon. 

Giving Richo too much credit there !

[My name is legion 158]

They had 20 scoring shots we had 17. We missed a lot of easy shots, some were carried off by the wind, others the wind died as we kicked, allowing for the wind. All the BS and hand wringing is nonsense. We could have won if we’d have kicked straight. All the rest is rubbish. And have a look at the Doggies last few games where they missed multiple goals. But why o why didn’t we tag Bontempelli?

Edited August 22, 2020 by My name is legion

[Vineytime 847]

Same old same old when it comes to a loss unfortunately:

G.Lyon - excruciatingly barracking I mean commenting, rate him highly, very highly actually but feel his frustration while commentating MFC games, makes it harder to watch. 
 

overuse of handball around centre clearance work. Costly turnovers. 
 

lack of forward pressure. 
 

lack of team defense/ work rate / pressure. 
 

major convo around MFC, need more balance / different types in the midfield, glaringly obvious this afternoon when you see bulldogs mix, we won’t be a complete team till this happens  

Viney, May our best. 

[layzie 33,793]

Why do you need a director of coaching to stand next to you in the box and tell you not to make any changes in a game?

[dazzledavey36 54,807]

7 minutes ago, forever demons said:

i want a coach who tells it how it is ,rant ,rave.abuse, get rid of the prima donnas and sooks would rather a bunch of triers than this bunch of shirt lifters

Oh like Mark Neeld use to do right?

[dl4e 5,851]

19 minutes ago, Vineytime said:

 
 

overuse of handball around centre clearance work. Costly turnovers. 
 

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And this happens how often. In most games unless the opposition midfield is asleep. Biggest problem at the club.

[drysdale demon 4,830]

Until the midfield group take the responsibility to commit themselves to 100% effort in every game results like today will continue to occur.

[drdrake 3,163]

It all comes back to skills, we just cant keep the football and if you cant keep the football and turn it over the way we do you have no chance to defend.

It is the same players making same mistakes.  The highlights of this year hsd been May, Weiderman, Jackson, Langdon, Pickett and Petracca, most are fresh faces to our club, weid and May we didnt see much of in 2019.  Need to see more fresh faces, we know what we get with most of the guys that played today lets see what else is on our list

[Earl Hood 6,086]

31 minutes ago, My name is legion said:

They had 20 scoring shots we had 17. We missed a lot of easy shots, some were carried off by the wind, others the wind died as we kicked, allowing for the wind. All the BS and hand wringing is nonsense. We could have won if we’d have kicked straight. All the rest is rubbish. And have a look at the Doggies last few games where they missed multiple goals. But why o why didn’t we tag Bontempelli?

Oddly what you say is correct yet you know if you watched the game we were outplayed for 3 of 4 quarters. And that is the worry, we were lucky not to be blown away, thanks to May, Lever and Tomlinson perhaps. We do have strengths and the ability to string together some great play but if we don’t totally dominate the midfield we are vulnerable to a good running side. 

[Vineytime 847]

13 minutes ago, dl4e said:

And this happens how often. In most games unless the opposition midfield is asleep. Biggest problem at the club.

It’s so hard to watch and happens so often.... and hasn’t changed for a few years now. It probably won’t until we address that midfield balance as it’s ingrained in our current crop of mids, especially under pressure. 

[dimmy 1,307]

2 hours ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Yep, spot on. We all love Viney but his disposal efficiency is bog ordinary. Just continually hacks it forward without looking.

 

1 hour ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

This is one of the best posts I’ve ever read on Demonland. You completely hit the nail on the head. I really feel as though he should be used forward more often and kept out of the midfield, only given bursts in the middle. 

 

2 hours ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

What today really highlighted to me is the double edge Sword that is Jack Viney, at times he looked like the only midfielder that's having a go, but wow does he upset the overall system of the midfield. 

it's a really interesting one because he's genuine quality but he's also a serious challenge for the coaches. he went in head first and he either wins it, or he's caught outnumbered and the dogs wisk it away. and because of the way he plays it's hard for guys to get in and support him. 

he turns us from a system based midfield to a chaotic rush it forward midfield. 

Yes, he is an enigma. At timers he is the heart & soul of the side, but other times he restricts out ball movement. Today was not the side to restrict ball movement against, because as soon as they got set (or the opportunity to set up) they just moved the ball and took our midfield out of the game. I still maintain he would be sensational as a small fwd .

[Deemania since 56 6,630]

4 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

The best tagger in our side is currently spudding it up down back..

Coaching masterclass by Goodwin.

Oh, for a Jordy McKenzie....

[layzie 33,793]

20 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

Until the midfield group take the responsibility to commit themselves to 100% effort in every game results like today will continue to occur.

Yeah pretty much this. The running and forward pressure from last week has to be the standard, can't just pick and choose when. It's a tough caper hard running sure but if you want to be in the middle you better be running your socks off every single week.

[drysdale demon 4,830]

4 minutes ago, layzie said:

Yeah pretty much this. The running and forward pressure from last week has to be the standard, can't just pick and choose when. It's a tough caper hard running sure but if you want to be in the middle you better be running your socks off every single week.

You can break even in the midfield and still win the game but you never will win when the midfield doesn't commit, laziness could be the problem most times.

Edited August 22, 2020 by drysdale demon
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[Deemania since 56 6,630]

When is Fritsch going to prepare for a match by kicking 300 practice goals at training each week? No rest until he nails 300 goals. 

[KLV 1,765]

4 hours ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

People thinking Goodwin’s coaching cost us really are clutching at straws or have agenda’s. That was a loss based on inadequate defensive run and not taking chances when they present. The same side did both well last week. We missed 4-6 high % goals and they made there’s. We played like an improving mid tier side who struggled with a higher level of pressure. We unsurprisingly were caught short for outside run which a lot of us had already said was a concern. Just need to reset and get the changes right next week otherwise outside run will catch us out once again.

Lost in it all will be Steven May’s game which you will struggle to find a more complete defensive game by an individual.

I hope you are right, Bid red. What I saw is beveridge changed things up at halftime, resulting in a match winning  3rd quarter. Goodwin on the other hand,  had no move that countered their momentum, nor did our leaders on the ground. 

[demonique 314]

2 hours ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Yep, spot on. We all love Viney but his disposal efficiency is bog ordinary. Just continually hacks it forward without looking.

Yes indeed . I too feel he is a disruption to the system that was going very well with Angus , Oliver and Petracca . I feel he would be better utilised in the forward group , of rotating through the centre . 
 

It was back to a chaotic mess today 

[Willmoy1947 4,085]

I've just gone onto the AFL website and  looked for the Rules. Apparently they are not there anymore, and the person i messaged said the Umpires were told to "throw them out the window".

[loges 6,767]

For me There just is no trust in this side anymore, they just continue to disappoint over and over, when will it ever end? Long time before I'll have any expectation again.

[Earl Hood 6,086]

5 minutes ago, willmoy said:

I've just gone onto the AFL website and  looked for the Rules. Apparently they are not there anymore, and the person i messaged said the Umpires were told to "throw them out the window".

Certainly the holding the ball, incorrect disposal law doesn’t exist anymore after watching today’s game. 

[BenF 56]

We were bog awful, no other way to put it. 

[Dame Gaga 2,453]

Perhaps hub life is a little too cosy up there in Queensland, far from the madding crowd.

[picket fence 17,131]

3 hours ago, CYB said:

Today we lost by 28 points. 2 goals wasted with touched on the mark, Fristch misses one directly in front - kicks out on the full. Then weed puts some might action on the kick making bend like Beckham. Whilst Wallis kicks one from the boundary. Most of the game stats were equal with exception to uncontested disposals.
 

We got beaten on the outside but that was always going to happen. Always. It will happen next week as well as with any team in the top 6. We lack outside width and class - it is a gaping, gaping hole and one that if we don’t fill will never let this team be as successful as it could be. It’s the final missing piece.
 

We need to go after Hunter and/or Williams with every dollar we have. Need to clear the dead weight off our list to free up cap space to find the 1 - 1.2 M required to make that happen. Otherwise we will always be a 12-6 team.

Ah care to NAME the Deadweight!??

[picket fence 17,131]

42 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

When is Fritsch going to prepare for a match by kicking 300 practice goals at training each week? No rest until he nails 300 goals. 

Give me Jack Watts anyday over this soft as butter down hill skier!

[Hellofatime 84]

5 hours ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Bog ordinary effort but credit to the Doggies who played the conditions much better.

Our old friend ****ty disposal/ turnover played a top game.

There's a few blokes up for a rest next week you'd reckon, which is now a make or break game.

What have you got Goodie?

How about giving Goodwin, Richardson, Mahoney, and Pert, a permanent rest?