Lucifers Hero 40,746 Posted August 25, 2020 Author Posted August 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said: The AFL has always been able to justify games in exotic locations (China, New Zealand) by talking about how much value in dollar terms they got out of the exposure. If they believe the exposure in Queensland would be worth more than $50 million, (or $35 million if it's just about the GF), or, more correctly if they can find some figures that justify arguing that it's $50/35 million worth of exposure, that would make Brisbane the easy choice. The AFL justifies anything it wants to justify however implausible. They call it being flexible or there are nuances that need to be considered etc etc etc The AFL may just want the cold hard cash now rather than dollar equivalent fuzzy benefits further down the track. Quote
Rab D Nesbitt 8,966 Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 If I had a crystal ball and could see that West Coast won't make the GF I'd be more than happy to take their $50 million. 3 Quote
La Dee-vina Comedia 17,137 Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 38 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said: The AFL justifies anything it wants to justify however implausible. They call it being flexible or there are nuances that need to be considered etc etc etc The AFL may just want the cold hard cash now rather than dollar equivalent fuzzy benefits further down the track. I should have been clearer. If the $50m or $35m in exposure benefits are genuine, then the AFL can justify having the finals or GF in Brisbane. If the $50m/$35m is ethereal the AFL can nevertheless use it to justify using the Gabba, should that be its choice. I agree with you, though, that under current circumstances the hard cash offer from WA, if not substantially matched by the Qld Government, would be hugely tempting. However, as the Queensland Government has an election on 31 October 2020, I expect the Qld Premier to make a cash offer that meets or almost meets what the WA Premier is offering to get the GF in Brisbane as a "major event" just before the election. 1 Quote
Lord Nev 13,512 Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 Have some business connections (in a second hand kind of way) with a few AFL clubs and the word going around them is the Gabba is a certainty. 2 Quote
Lucifers Hero 40,746 Posted August 27, 2020 Author Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) Grand Final date confirmed to be Oct 24 which keeps the WA Optus venue option in play. There will be a pre finals bye. Edited August 27, 2020 by Lucifer's Hero Quote
Ethan Tremblay 31,389 Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 The 24th doesn’t really work for me. 1 4 Quote
La Dee-vina Comedia 17,137 Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said: Grand Final date confirmed to be Oct 24 which keeps the WA Optus venue option in play. There will be a pre finals bye. October 24 is also only one week before the Queensland State election. I expect the Qld Premier to do everything possible to get the Grand Final to enhance her credentials as a "major event" securer which will be fresh in the voters' memories before they even know what the Qld offered by way of financial and other benefits. Keep in mind, too, that the Vic Government still has a say in the location through its agreement with the AFL. I wonder whether it might have a preference for one of WA or Qld? It has already been reported that the Vic Government has indicated to the AFL it will not countenance the Grand Final being held in NSW for fear of that State usurping Victoria as the "major events" capital of Australia. Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 It’s likely now to be the Gabba. 43,879 people. wow. It’s thats kinda year!! Quote
old55 23,864 Posted August 27, 2020 Posted August 27, 2020 Preferred outcomes: In Perth without West Coast in it OR In Brisbane and West Coast lose it to Brisbane 3 1 Quote
Ethan Tremblay 31,389 Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 On 8/21/2020 at 5:17 PM, Ethan Tremblay said: The WA Government has allegedly offered the AFL $36 million to host the Grand Final however the Commission are still in favour of the game being held in Queensland as they believe they owe it to them for saving the season. Confirmation will come tomorrow that the GF will be held at the Gabba. #Notjustthetradewhisperer. #WhatelsehasETheard? #Whatdoyouwanttoknow? 1 Quote
Lord Nev 13,512 Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 On 8/25/2020 at 6:57 PM, Lord Nev said: Have some business connections (in a second hand kind of way) with a few AFL clubs and the word going around them is the Gabba is a certainty. Quote
Ethan Tremblay 31,389 Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, Lord Nev said: Only four days after my post. You’ll catch up ‘Nev’. #Secondisthefirstloser. 3 Quote
Lord Nev 13,512 Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said: Only four days after my post. You’ll catch up ‘Nev’. #Secondisthefirstloser. "The WA Government has allegedly offered the AFL $36 million to host the Grand Final however the Commission are still in favour..." Maybe next time actually say something instead of hedging your bets with this wishy washy stuff. Rookie. Stick to the funny stuff. Edited September 1, 2020 by Lord Nev Quote
Diamond_Jim 12,778 Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 On 8/27/2020 at 11:03 AM, spirit of norm smith said: It’s likely now to be the Gabba. 43,879 people. wow. It’s thats kinda year!! Under their covid plan try 15k but don't worry the deal requires the winning state to underwrite the crowd numbers Quote
McQueen 17,867 Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 Still another 7 weeks for the second wave of COVID-19 to explode in QLD. WA is a no brainer. And I might be a little biased. Quote
Clayton van Oliver 1,829 Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 I am seriously shocked that: 1. The AFL did the right thing instead of jumping in the WA scrooge McDuck swimming pool of coins 2. WA's arrogance will not be rewarded 2 Quote
Superunknown 4,246 Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 5 hours ago, McQueen said: Still another 7 weeks for the second wave of COVID-19 to explode in QLD. WA is a no brainer. And I might be a little biased. This I am not sure if some people realise how precarious things are in QLD. The classification of Gold Coast LGA as a hotspot is making things interesting in all kinds of ways. CEs is HHSs and LHDs would be earning their $ right now of course they could hold it there sans crowd. Quote
Wells 11 5,503 Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 Two week isolation still needed to get into WA made it pretty hard for them to get the nod, hard to see them hosting any of the finals tbh. Im glad as a GF in WA with WC in it would have been hard to watch with such a lopsided crowd. No matter what when at the g there’s always a somewhat even crowd. plus , if WC don’t get that home final this comp evens out in a bigger way. The tigers feel a cut above tbh but given everything, IF we make it , I don’t feel a flag is an impossibility. Quote
Kent 2,920 Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 7 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said: Under their covid plan try 15k but don't worry the deal requires the winning state to underwrite the crowd numbers so a state with public debt of over 100 billion who is subsidised to the tune of 110 % by NSW and Vic has to spend money to pay the AFL to play there and guarantee the spend that makes economic sence! Quote
waynewussell 6,976 Posted September 2, 2020 Posted September 2, 2020 GF in the city I was born in on my Birthday! The stars have aligned... It's Demons in 2020! 4 1 Quote
Jaded No More 68,976 Posted September 2, 2020 Posted September 2, 2020 5 hours ago, AmDamDemon said: I am seriously shocked that: 1. The AFL did the right thing instead of jumping in the WA scrooge McDuck swimming pool of coins 2. WA's arrogance will not be rewarded Completely agreed. WA made it very difficult for the AFL initially, while QLD has been more than accommodating (although don't get me started on their premier allowing AFL players and officials into the state, but not granting permission to people who need it for medical reasons.... she is an absolute [censored]). Besides nobody, and I mean nobody, wants to give WC a leg up. Quote
McQueen 17,867 Posted September 2, 2020 Posted September 2, 2020 5 hours ago, AmDamDemon said: I am seriously shocked that: 1. The AFL did the right thing instead of jumping in the WA scrooge McDuck swimming pool of coins 2. WA's arrogance will not be rewarded WA’s arrogance has already been rewarded with zero COVID-19 cases for a very long time. 2 Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted September 2, 2020 Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) WA lost the inloseable grand final. Still their arrogance is finally getting snubbed The Gabba is the winner!! Edited September 2, 2020 by spirit of norm smith Xyz Quote
Jaded No More 68,976 Posted September 2, 2020 Posted September 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, McQueen said: WA’s arrogance has already been rewarded with zero COVID-19 cases for a very long time. WA, much like Tassie, has a very big leg up in keeping their state Covid free. They only happen to have the most isolated city in the world. So good on them for their work, but if they had the proximity that the other states have to one another, or their population density, their situation would most likely be similar to that of QLD. Quote
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