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On the Couch - The Red Zone

At the break of Gawn
At the break of Gawn
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1 hour ago, dee-tox said:

One thing VdB is not is slow. For his size is one of the quickest blokes going around.

Fair enough, I really like his aggression towards the ball & opposition, he just appears slow to me, perhaps itโ€™s that his skills and decision making that give me that impression.

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    On 7/7/2020 at 10:14 AM, titan_uranus said:

    I don't agree.

    It's a shared responsibility.

    Viney's been doing this for years. That wasn't a one-off.ย 

    The onus is on players like Viney, who are our "core", to work on their failures.

    It is also on the coaches to identify these failings and work with individual players, and the team as a whole, to stop them from occurring.

    That's what I said.ย  Unless you don't agree that Dusty would have made the right call.

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    On 7/7/2020 at 9:49 PM, D4Life said:

    At start of season if you said we lose to:

    West Coast in Perth 4-5 goals

    Richmond at MCG 4-5 goals

    & Geelong at MCG close loss

    Beat Carlton

    It wouldnโ€™t be the end of the seasonย 

    Demons win this week after picking Bennell for skill , Weideman marking target & Jetta better decision making! The season will stArt to look different!

    These posts are frankly pathetic. You clearly don't watch the games. Last 28 games 2 wins by more than a goal

    We're going brilliantly according to you.

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    On 7/7/2020 at 10:36 AM, Pennant St Dee said:

    Either that or play to your players strengths. I get the Fritsch move to the backline last season out of necessity, but Goody for the sake of his head coaching career needs to stop trying to fit square pegs in round holes.

    Lever is a zoning off interceptor so play him as one and don't have Max floating back behind every ball as the intercept

    Harmes has been very damaging through the middle play him there and make Viney your principal tagger. Play Gawn, Harmes, Trac, Brayshaw as your starting centreline. Rotate Clarrie through there whilst also consider sending him forward to play Vanders role.

    Play forwards who will lead hard up the ground and free up space inside forward 50 to create channels for the others to lead into and if they want to play a loose defender sitting in the hole don't play on hit little 20m passes on the 45 to work into space until someone finds space.

    It's up to him and the players as a collective to work this out

    Great post as usual mate.

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    9 hours ago, jnrmac said:

    These posts are frankly pathetic. You clearly don't watch the games. Last 28 games 2 wins by more than a goal

    We're going brilliantly according to you.

    Way to beat down on an opinion.

    I guess leadership isnt your thing.

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    1 hour ago, Unleash Hell said:

    Way to beat down on an opinion.

    I guess leadership isnt your thing.

    He's said it enough times he believes we've only won 2 of our last 28 games not 7

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    20 hours ago, jnrmac said:

    These posts are frankly pathetic. You clearly don't watch the games. Last 28 games 2 wins by more than a goal

    We're going brilliantly according to you.

    No I didnโ€™t say weโ€™reย going brilliantly, but I donโ€™t think the season is over!
    Across the league the standard of many games has been poor, and the Demons have been bog ordinary.

    Last weeks team looked bad at selection and performed accordingly!

    It can turn quickly. This week the team at least has better structure, and Gold Coast arenโ€™t great theyโ€™ve beaten Adelaide & Fremantle who will probably finish 17&18, so the Demons should win!

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    9 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said:

    He's said it enough times he believes we've only won 2 of our last 28 games not 7

    You clearly have reading and comprehension deficiencies

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    57 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

    You clearly have reading and comprehension deficiencies

    and 2 losses by less than a goal which you failed to acknowledgeย 

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    On 7/8/2020 at 7:43 AM, dee-tox said:

    One thing VdB is not is slow. For his size is one of the quickest blokes going around.

    Previously he was very quick, hasn't looked quick this year. However, watching the game on TV does makes it harder to pick up on the speed and extent of players' running patterns.

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    17 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said:

    He's said it enough times he believes we've only won 2 of our last 28 games not 7

    Im not really invested in the opinions either way.

    Regardless if the opinion is right or wrong there is no need to be thst demeaning.

    Just my opinionย 

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    9 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said:

    and 2 losses by less than a goal which you failed to acknowledgeย 

    Who cares? its not the point I was trying to make and I have no interest in acknowledging anything you say.

    You're a bit full of your own self importance aren't you. Trying to force another poster to acknowledge your post. Toddle off now its probably past your bedtime.

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    Simon can't coach and his team has only won 2 games by more than a goal in the last 28 games.

    Fact.

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    19 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

    Who cares? its not the point I was trying to make and I have no interest in acknowledging anything you say.

    You're a bit full of your own self importance aren't you. Trying to force another poster to acknowledge your post. Toddle off now its probably past your bedtime.

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    Simon can't coach and his team has onlyย  won 2 games by more than a goal in the last 28 games.

    Fact.

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    2019 - 22 games

    Sydney by 22

    Freo by 14

    2020 - 4 games

    = 26 games

    2018 PF

    SF v Hawks more than a goal

    If you're going to be a smart [censored] and call fellow posters pathetic and idiots than get your facts right

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    18 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said:

    2019 - 22 games

    Sydney by 22

    Freo by 14

    2020 - 4 games

    = 26 games

    2018 PF

    SF v Hawks more than a goal

    If you're going to be a smart [censored] and call fellow posters pathetic and idiots than get your facts right

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    Oh dear, that's embarrasing.

    Not only can't you read but you can't add up.

    It's really awkward when you lose a debate and then you try to shame the person you're debating with but make a crucial error in your 'facts'

    [Hint: there were 23 games in 2019]

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    4 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

    Oh dear, that's embarrasing.

    Not only can't you read but you can't add up.

    It's really awkward when you lose a debate and then you try to shame the person you're debating with but make a crucial error in your 'facts'

    [Hint: there were 23 games in 2019]

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    Some need to get to the point. Efficiency. ย You get the footy and then you must make the decision. Itโ€™s this area that we struggle in. Decision making and delivery. Simple but critical. ย Up to the coaches to fix and keep the standard. Not just words. ย Actions.ย 

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    12 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

    Oh dear, that's embarrasing.

    Not only can't you read but you can't add up.

    It's really awkward when you lose a debate and then you try to shame the person you're debating with but make a crucial error in your 'facts'

    [Hint: there were 23 games in 2019]

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    will ferrell laughing GIF


    ^ Certified contender for Demonland nuffyย of the year

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    6 hours ago, jnrmac said:

    Oh dear, that's embarrasing.

    Not only can't you read but you can't add up.

    It's really awkward when you lose a debate and then you try to shame the person you're debating with but make a crucial error in your 'facts'

    [Hint: there were 23 games in 2019]

    ย 

    will ferrell laughing GIF

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    6 hours ago, jnrmac said:

    Oh dear, that's embarrasing.

    Not only can't you read but you can't add up.

    It's really awkward when you lose a debate and then you try to shame the person you're debating with but make a crucial error in your 'facts'

    [Hint: there were 23 games in 2019]

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    We played 22 games and please give your carer back their phone

    YOU IDIOT

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    6 hours ago, jnrmac said:

    Oh dear, that's embarrasing.

    Not only can't you read but you can't add up.

    It's really awkward when you lose a debate and then you try to shame the person you're debating with but make a crucial error in your 'facts'

    [Hint: there were 23 games in 2019]

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    will ferrell laughing GIF

    Oh dear.

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    16 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

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    We played 22 games and please give your carer back their phone

    YOU IDIOT

    @jnrmacย is covering himself in glory here.ย  It's great.

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    56 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

    @jnrmacย is covering himself in glory here.ย  It's great.

    It's actually called being OWNED

    by someone clearly older and he/she speaks to me about bedtimeย 

    Once again golden rule @jnrmac

    don't bring a knife to a gun fightย 

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    1 hour ago, Pennant St Dee said:

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    We played 22 games and please give your carer back their phone

    YOU IDIOT

    No sorry you're wrong PSD, there's 23 rounds so ipso facto.ย 

    Hold on, wait a second.....

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    No sorry you're wrong PSD, there's 23 rounds so ipso facto.ย 

    Hold on, wait a second.....

    But really Pennant you could be a bit more supportive. Jnr has had to deal with a lot of conflicted emotions of late.ย ย 

    • The season starts with bad loss but Omac plays a terrific game (some say his best) and kills Darling. Gets praise on DL -ย ย Sad. Sad. Confused.
    • After the enforced break Omac gets dropped, seeming proof he is not in our best 22. And we win. But play poorly - Happy. Vindicated. Annoyed.
    • Omac's replacement does not play well against the cats. We lose. Many demonland posters argue it isย clear we need Omac back in the teamย ย - Ambivalent. Angry. Baffled.
    • Omac's replacement does not play well against the tigers. We lose. Many demonland posters argue even more forcibly it is clear we need Omac back in the team - Ambivalent. Angry. Conflicted.
    • The conflict grows as it dawns on Jnr that he mayย  secretly believe we need Omac, that we will be a better team with him in the side, that he is in fact best 22. But denial is a powerful emotion.
    • Omac is selected in the side. We are indeed a better team with him in the side. Omac plays well. The dees win = Confused. Confused. Ambivalent.

    So lets be kind. Jnr will have to watch Omac play next week against Frost. It might be too much for him.

    Or it might be his chance to finally embrace and fully support Omac.ย ย 

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    Asides from this thread being seriously derailed, I think whilst there was some validity to Garry Lyon's 'Red Mist' analogy, he seriously over did it last night to the point where I think he was obviously just trying to draw attention to himself rather than comment on the game.

    It was like every time we had a rushed kick under pressure "there's that red mist again" or his other favorite "you can see the tako revving up".ย 

    Give us a break Garry last night you shaat me to tears.

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