joeboy 3,193 Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 Gawn - couldn’t impose enough Viney - mind seems elsewhere Hibbert - better but lacking May - solid under pressure Fritsch - better when roaming Oliver - disposal was amateurish Petracca - elite player now Salem - missing under pressure Brayshaw - little to impress Hannan - limited but praiseworthy Langdon - was rarely sighted Harmes - effective in middle vandenBerg - underdone and undeserving Tomlinson - disappointing and limited McDonald - disappeared when needed Pickett - still looks lost Lockhart - little to enthuse Lever - slow and loose Rivers - far from ready Smith - not a defender Melksham - lazy and selfish Hunt - looked completely lost 6 Quote
Return to Glory 8,518 Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 Gold Coast - licking their lips 3 2 Quote
deebug 1,754 Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Return to Glory said: Gold Coast - licking their lips North licking their lips as well 2 1 Quote
Gouga 570 Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, joeboy said: Gawn - couldn’t impose enough Viney - mind seems elsewhere Hibbert - better but lacking May - solid under pressure Fritsch - better when roaming Oliver - disposal was amateurish Petracca - elite player now Salem - missing under pressure Brayshaw - little to impress Hannan - limited but praiseworthy Langdon - was rarely sighted Harmes - effective in middle vandenBerg - underdone and undeserving Tomlinson - disappointing and limited McDonald - disappeared when needed Pickett - still looks lost Lockhart - little to enthuse Lever - slow and loose Rivers - far from ready Smith - not a defender Melksham - lazy and selfish Hunt - looked completely lost Why does smith get "not a defender"? All he did today was defend Riewoldt. Lever is "not a defender", he just floats around pointing fingers. 4 Quote
Queanbeyan Demon 7,023 Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 Gawn - Still learning leadership Viney - Mindless repeat offender Hibbert - Best game recently May - Does not lead Fritsch - Protects his spot Oliver - Clearly uncoachable player Petracca - Goodwin's only positive Salem - What went wrong? Brayshaw - Lazy, careless, comatose Hannan - Glen Iris interchange Langdon - Who, where, what? Harmes - Viney the second vandenBerg - Good at Ainslie Tomlinson - Giant's win trade McDonald - Captain of reserves Pickett - Too inexperienced ATM Lockhart - Battler and limited Lever - 11th game back Rivers - Worth persisting with Smith - Oh deary me Melksham - One good year Hunt - Little boy lost 2 Quote
dimmy 1,308 Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 Viney/Oliver/Melsham/Tomlinson/Langdon : Disposal issues Brayshaw : needs game time ( the reson he goes missing is because he is sitting on bench !!) Small Fwd Line : Not working because of point 1 Decision making : non existaent Hibberd : I will eat my words -great effort game TMac : See point 1 ----moved well Hannan : was good breaks lines Pickert/Lockart : Overwhelmed but promising Weid/ OMac/ Jetta/ Jones : Missing the maturity Umpires : Invent rule changes Crowd noise : Advantage : Drowns out Taylor Disadvantage : Sounds like American "comedy" 2 1 Quote
Tarax Club 4,189 Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 Joeboy - provides catharsis opportunity Gawn - weighed down albatross Viney - lack of sleep? Hibbert - took game on May - starting to impress Fritsch - room to move Oliver - lose the %#@*?!! Petracca - classier than dusty Salem - diagnosis says vanilla-itus Brayshaw - unfortunately missed flight Hannan - had real dip Langdon - Bryan prefers Hunt Harmes - effective in middle VandenBerg - crack of sunshine Tomlinson - goal kick imbroglio McDonald - bring back Hulk! Pickett - apprenticeship needed first Lockhart - subliminal beep repeat Lever - earn your keep! Rivers - most promising rookie Smith - Oscar gaining traction Melksham - coach must act Hunt - Bryan where's Hunt? Goodwin - prayer does help MFC - mostly fiasco complex 1 1 Quote
Ungarieboy 457 Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 21 minutes ago, dimmy said: Viney/Oliver/Melsham/Tomlinson/Langdon : Disposal issues Brayshaw : needs game time ( the reson he goes missing is because he is sitting on bench !!) Small Fwd Line : Not working because of point 1 Decision making : non existaent Hibberd : I will eat my words -great effort game TMac : See point 1 ----moved well Hannan : was good breaks lines Pickert/Lockart : Overwhelmed but promising Weid/ OMac/ Jetta/ Jones : Missing the maturity Umpires : Invent rule changes Crowd noise : Advantage : Drowns out Taylor Disadvantage : Sounds like American "comedy" That's a really good summary, and somehow gives hope. 1 Quote
Swooper1987 3,322 Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 Harsh on Gawn. He was excellent. Equal leading tackler on the ground,huge number of hitouts to advantage, 22 disposals at 64% efficiency and 5 marks. Even Jay Clark gave him a vote in the Herald Sun. I reckon the man has set an impossibly high standard here! 2 Quote
Rednblueriseing 868 Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 39 minutes ago, dee-tox said: Pickett, all buzz no sting. Give him more game time only 3rd game, showing promise and excitement in the forward half 2 Quote
Watts the matter 1,235 Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, Swooper1987 said: Harsh on Gawn. He was excellent. Equal leading tackler on the ground,huge number of hitouts to advantage, 22 disposals at 64% efficiency and 5 marks. Even Jay Clark gave him a vote in the Herald Sun. I reckon the man has set an impossibly high standard here! He got those hit outs in the last quarter once Nankervis was injured. Gawn's form is an issue, his inability to kills balls on the goal line once again on show. Needs to be stronger in the contest. 2 1 Quote
Dido 81 Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 Gawn - effort is there Viney - Where is hardness Hibbert - liked his game May - captain down back Fritsch - needs some bulk Oliver - kick to mates! Petracca - best for dees Salem - lost in translation Brayshaw - like his effort Hannan - Good to watch Langdon - same as Hunt Harmes - liked in middle VandenBerg - building to standard Tomlinson - disappointing for size McDonald - Big boy whinger Pickett - Will be good Lockhart - didn't notice him Lever - I am Robot Rivers - Great for dees Smith -liked his spoils Melksham - time to go Hunt - worse than Langdon 1 Quote
Swooper1987 3,322 Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 30 minutes ago, Watts the matter said: He got those hit outs in the last quarter once Nankervis was injured. Gawn's form is an issue, his inability to kills balls on the goal line once again on show. Needs to be stronger in the contest. Rubbish. He had 19 disposals to 3/4 time and his 6 tackles were all recorded up until 3/4 time. As I said, he has set an incredibly high standard and his form in two of the four games we've played has seen him in the top three on the ground. He was certainly more than acceptable last week and only in round 1 would I say he was beaten by Naitanui. He comprehensively beat Nankervis. 2 Quote
chook fowler 19,772 Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 Tomlinson- lazy and insipid AVB - slow and ineffective Hunt - frequently goes missing Salem - out of form Harmes - where were you? Viney - bloody hell mate Melksham - style over substance TMac - Granny is faster 1 Quote
Fanatique Demon 2,764 Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 Gawn is doing ok, but Brody is now well ahead of him. 1 Quote
Watts the matter 1,235 Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Swooper1987 said: Rubbish. He had 19 disposals to 3/4 time and his 6 tackles were all recorded up until 3/4 time. As I said, he has set an incredibly high standard and his form in two of the four games we've played has seen him in the top three on the ground. He was certainly more than acceptable last week and only in round 1 would I say he was beaten by Naitanui. He comprehensively beat Nankervis. Nankervis got a goal and 3 score involvements in his 46% ground time. Gawn had a direct turnover inside defensive 50 and one score involvement from the whole game. We were losing clearances by about 5 when Nankervis went off. Nank had 11 pressure acts to gawn's 15 despite being on the ground half the amount of time. I expect and we require a lot more from our captain. Is having an ordinary season and wouldn't be in the top handful of Ruckman on his form this season. 1 Quote
Swooper1987 3,322 Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Watts the matter said: Nankervis got a goal and 3 score involvements in his 46% ground time. Gawn had a direct turnover inside defensive 50 and one score involvement from the whole game. We were losing clearances by about 5 when Nankervis went off. Nank had 11 pressure acts to gawn's 15 despite being on the ground half the amount of time. I expect and we require a lot more from our captain. Is having an ordinary season and wouldn't be in the top handful of Ruckman on his form this season. Disagree. Nankervis goal was a gimmee from a terrible umpiring decision against Petracca. Nankervis got injured immediately before 3/4 time. Chol and Nakervis shared ruck duties and Gawn played 90% on ground. He beat both Chol and Nakervis convincingly and if you saw it any other way I doubt you were watching the same game as me. Gawn was not the reason we played so poorly today. And as for the season. We've played 4 games. He was beaten in round 1, was second best on ground in round 2 according to the coaches (8 votes), beat the Geelong rucks last week and was clearly in the best 5 or 6 on the ground today. Solid enough form for me. Edited July 5, 2020 by Swooper1987 addition 3 Quote
Watts the matter 1,235 Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Swooper1987 said: Disagree. Nankervis goal was a gimmee from a terrible umpiring decision against Petracca. Nankervis got injured immediately before 3/4 time. Chol and Nakervis shared ruck duties and Gawn played 90% on ground. He beat both Chol and Nakervis convincingly and if you saw it any other way I doubt you were watching the same game as me. Gawn was not the reason we played so poorly today. Like when Chol streamed out of the center and hit Riewoldt lace out while Gawn was lying on the ground in the center? We must have been watching different games, I can't remember ever seeing a Melbourne player do that. Quote
Swooper1987 3,322 Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, Fanatique Demon said: Gawn is doing ok, but Brody is now well ahead of him. Except he Grundy couldn't beat Phillips on Friday night. Grundy has played 1 good game this season - round 1 against the Bulldogs. Todd Goldstein has actually been the form ruckman this season. Quote
Swooper1987 3,322 Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Watts the matter said: Like when Chol streamed out of the center and hit Riewoldt lace out while Gawn was lying on the ground in the center? We must have been watching different games, I can't remember ever seeing a Melbourne player do that. So you are saying Chol was a more influential player today than Gawn? Righto! Quote
Watts the matter 1,235 Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 Just now, Swooper1987 said: So you are saying Chol was a more influential player today than Gawn? Righto! Influential? Sure he had 4 score involvements and twice showed AFL standard skills to hit a leading forward inside 50. If the benchmark for Gawn is breaking even with someone like Chol or Nank we are wasting our money. He should be dominating these guys, taking big marks and kicking goals. Are you Simon Goodwin? What influence did Gawn have on the game? Sure he helps us get it forward, but that doesn't win you games of football. Are you gonna celebrate that we won the inside 50s? When did Gawn take a big mark or set up a goal? I'm not interested in a tall player with average skills getting 22 posessions, this is on of the reasons we can't connect with our forward line. If he can't get a quick handball of to a runner, we are restricted to a long kick down the line or a loopy 20 meter pass. Quote
WERRIDEE 5,638 Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 (edited) MAY - FAR TOO LOOSE SALEM - NOT REALLY IMPROVING HARMES - NEEDS MIDFIELD TIME PETRACCA - OUTSTANDING FIRST HALF VINEY - SAME OLD JACK LEVER - WORST RECRUIT EVER BRAYSHAW - COMPLETE FRONT RUNNER GAWN - THE BEST RUCKMAN OLIVER - WORST KICK EVER HIBBERD - GREAT 2 GAMES LANGDON - FORM IS WAVERING MELKSHAM - DROP HIM PLEASE HANNAN - PROVIDED SOME SPARK TOMLINSON - NOT A WINGMAN VANDENBERG - BETTER SECOND HALF RIVERS - FAR TOO YOUNG T.MCDONALD - BALTA KILLED HIM HUNT - COMPLETLY UTTERLY USELESS FRITSCH - PROVIDED A TARGET PICKETT - DEAR IN HEADLIGHTS LOCKHART - WHERE WAS HE SMITH - DONE HIS JOB Edited July 5, 2020 by WERRIDEE 1 Quote
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