Diamond_Jim 12,778 Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 Key forwards have a role and it's kicking goals. Sure they can play up the ground but you still expect them to drift in for one or two. To have zero between our two key forwards is embarrassing. 5 Quote
TheKozzieExperience 258 Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 On 21/06/2020 at 09:59, Lord Nev said: OR... sounds like our key defenders are starting to hit their straps... ?♂️ Expand I like your thinking. 2 Quote
Diamond_Jim 12,778 Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 On 21/06/2020 at 10:19, RalphiusMaximus said: I think that's more to do with how they're being used than how they are playing. They seem to be working on a structure where the tell KPFs push up the ground and drag their KPDs away from the 50, leaving the goalscoring to the medium and small forwards. That's why we kept seeing Fritsch stuck one-out against multiple opponents in round one. They are going to rotate a few of the mid/forward types through that full forward spot while TMac and whoever else we play are pushing up to the wings. I'm not a big fan of this plan, but at least it shows that they're trying something different, and maybe if there are no talls down there they'll stop trying to bomb to the square. Expand Yes but there are still times when a player marks outside fifty and kicks inside to a pack. That is when you expect the key forward to impact for a goal or two. Let's face it....they're quickly becoming NQR 1 Quote
Farmer 903 Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 On 21/06/2020 at 02:37, Forest Demon said: Great chance for those out of the 22 to put their hand up against decent opposition. Chances might be few and far between this year. Keen to hear how Lockhart gets on, as well as Weideman obviously. Marty Hore is another who has barely rated a mention this year, not sure if he is fit or not? Expand I agree re Hore but he’s injured, out for a long time 1 Quote
Deemania since 56 6,810 Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 On 21/06/2020 at 07:29, Mickey said: Saw Weid give a handball and that was it ? Expand He was about to be tackled 60m out - Spargo looked serious about dropping him. Quote
Pulp Fritschon 775 Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 Great work by the club to organise a full scale intra club. Loved the energy from the b team after kicking goals. Looks like the best lead into the Geelong game given the circumstances. Lets hope Geelong can get on the park come Sunday. 4 Quote
Pulp Fritschon 775 Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 Under the guise of keeping things in-house does anyone think they maybe didn’t show all the goals? Maybe Tommy and Weids both bagged 5..... 1 4 Quote
Dame Gaga 2,453 Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 On 21/06/2020 at 09:18, Demonland said: Expand Charlie was being politely reminded not to breach any COVID-19 rules again. 1 Quote
RalphiusMaximus 6,112 Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 I'm really liking the look of young James Jordan. A few people last season thought he was showing a bit, and right now it looks like they were right. He's harder than you expect, a good ball-user and has that bit of poise where he manages to find time. He could turn out to be a very nice surprise packet. 3 Quote
Bring-Back-Powell 15,562 Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 On 21/06/2020 at 09:07, Older demon said: I cringed at one blue goal when May supposedly the best kick in the team kicked it straight to the man on the mark who politely handball over Mays head for an easy goal. Only MFC can do that Expand May’s kicking was garbage last week as well. 3 Quote
picket fence 18,190 Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 On 21/06/2020 at 08:24, Tarax Club said: Melksham 4 Fritsch 3 Brown 3 Spargo 2 Hunt 1 Pickett 1 Bennell 1 Hannan 1 Bedford 1 Jordon 1 C Wagner 1 Not concerned about Tom from very limited vision. Seemed to play as a pivot at CHF found space and distributed ball well. Expand I'm in the opposite Camp! Zero goals from a true CHF in a scratch match!? Nup Not up to it at present! Plenty of concern from me! 2 1 Quote
Docs Demons 1,810 Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 What I liked about TMac was he appeared to moving more freely leading up the ground and guess what the players actually lowered their eyes and hit him up. Been on this for a long time and if they can convert this to real games then we will be OK. TMac leading up taking marks and moving ball on quickly to the other forwards plus putting the odd goal through himself will have the opposition worried. Only short vision however he looked to be moving well. 5 Quote
layzie 34,528 Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 On 21/06/2020 at 11:41, Docs Demons said: What I liked about TMac was he appeared to moving more freely leading up the ground and guess what the players actually lowered their eyes and hit him up. Been on this for a long time and if they can convert this to real games then we will be OK. TMac leading up taking marks and moving ball on quickly to the other forwards plus putting the odd goal through himself will have the opposition worried. Only short vision however he looked to be moving well. Expand That was what I noticed as well. At least he was presenting and making an option. Quote
Dr. Gonzo 24,468 Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 On 21/06/2020 at 05:59, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said: Is the game plan flawed or is it that the execution of the game plan is flawed or maybe a bit of both? 2018 everyone said we were too much about attack, but leaked goals. Have we over correct in that respect personal wise? Maybe, but then we went to the draft and picked up Kosi and Jackson. We also dominated contested ball, but lacked outside finish - hence Langdon, Tomlinson and to some extent Kosi and Bennell. Until we win the flag, its always a work in progress. The way I see it is that 2020 is a chance for us to get the systems, personal and ballance right going forward. To truely develop something which stacks up, we need to be playing against real opposition, which is one of the reasons I'm so [censored] about us not playing the Bombers today. But that said, there are probably also some advantages to in playing a game against yourself in terms of being able to teach and manipulate the game more, so I just hope we make the best of what we have been left with. Expand I'm generally pretty optimistic I think, or at least willing to give the team time to prove themselves before writing them off. But if TMac doesnt find some form soon we are rooted. You can talk about gameplans and plan B's all you want but if you don't have a key forward you're going nowhere. 4 Quote
Dr. Gonzo 24,468 Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 On 21/06/2020 at 06:25, david_neitz_is_my_dad said: 3+ games on it within a few days each week is enough traffic on it especially in winter with little sun Expand It's like carpet out there. Surely we could train on it one day a week with one session at Casey and our lighter session at Gosch's. Quote
titan_uranus 25,255 Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 On 21/06/2020 at 10:22, Diamond_Jim said: Key forwards have a role and it's kicking goals. Sure they can play up the ground but you still expect them to drift in for one or two. To have zero between our two key forwards is embarrassing. Expand If we kick 100 points in a real match and our tall forwards kick 0, is that "embarrassing"? I don't care who kicks them so long as we score enough to win. Getting Melksham back into form is equally important as TMac/Weid at any rate. On 21/06/2020 at 08:37, DeeSpencer said: Langdon failing to give the ball back. Bennell protected area. Possibly Jetta looking upset when Spargo kicked a goal. Looks like 3 goals came from 50M penalties. I guess we should be thankful it wasn't in a real game. Expand You're in form for over-reactions this week, I reckon. It was an intra-club scratch match. Frustrated players who'd trained all week and had the game pulled away from them through no fault of theirs. And your major concerns are the Bennell 50 (which was bloody iffy, and at any rate committed by a player who hasn't played at AFL level for 2.5 years) and "possibly Jetta looking upset". Seriously? You're upset that a player showed emotion? I'll give you the Langdon one, but really, are these things we should genuinely be worried about? 2 1 Quote
Dr. Gonzo 24,468 Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 On 21/06/2020 at 06:42, Sir Why You Little said: It is absurd and obviously hasn’t been thought through Expand Where is the leadership of the club on this? It's all well and good for Max to give a couple of words after the scratch match but I think it's time we started hearing from Bartlett/Pert more than once every 3 months. Quote
Dr. Gonzo 24,468 Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 On 21/06/2020 at 07:22, Ham said: Expand TMac and Weid MIA 1 Quote
titan_uranus 25,255 Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 On 21/06/2020 at 12:04, Dr. Gonzo said: TMac and Weid MIA Expand More like MIC (missing in clip). 5 Quote
Dr. Gonzo 24,468 Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 On 21/06/2020 at 08:08, titan_uranus said: Yes, they didn't kick any goals, but are we really going to call TMac/Weideman "horrible" for what we could see of them in a 6-minute highlight clip of an intraclub match? Expand Yes Quote
Dr. Gonzo 24,468 Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 On 21/06/2020 at 08:15, Lord Travis said: We would’ve drafted him if we didn’t trade for May. Shame as he’s exactly what we need now. Missed opportunity in hindsight but at the time we thought a quality key defender was our biggest gap. Expand But then we'd still be playing OMac and/or Frost so it's understandable why they did it. Not the right move long term but they obviously thought we were close to a flag after finishing top 4. We got Jackson the year after though so hopefully it all works out.... King looks like a star though (the gold coast one) Throw the chequebook at Cameron. I don't know who else is available but we need someone. Quote
DeeSpencer 26,692 Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 On 21/06/2020 at 11:55, titan_uranus said: You're in form for over-reactions this week, I reckon. It was an intra-club scratch match. Frustrated players who'd trained all week and had the game pulled away from them through no fault of theirs. And your major concerns are the Bennell 50 (which was bloody iffy, and at any rate committed by a player who hasn't played at AFL level for 2.5 years) and "possibly Jetta looking upset". Seriously? You're upset that a player showed emotion? I'll give you the Langdon one, but really, are these things we should genuinely be worried about? Expand Are the umpires going to give Bennell special rules because he hasn't played since that rule came in? I was only highlighting Jetta because it looked like he had conceded the 50. I don't care what type of game it is giving away 3 goals from 50's isn't good footy, hence why I was glad it wasn't the real stuff. 2 Quote
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