Training Ground?

[DeeSpencer 24,686]

The AAMI park redevelopment passing by without us being attached is a little worrying.

But there’s a massive MCG Southern Stand redevelopment on the horizon that really should include covering the train tracks and redeveloping Richmond station.

Maybe a late pivot has been made. 

[old dee 23,486]

12 hours ago, Supreme_Demon said:

What the hell?!

What happened to the training base to be built near Gosch's Paddock?

Didn't we get the oval expanded for the very reason that we will eventually get a home base built there?!

If this isn't the case then I will definitely feel like we have been lied to!

I can understand that things will take time...but we need some hope of progress.

I hope that many Melbourne members (not just myself) will complain about this at the Melbourne Football Club's next AGM.

We cannot simply let this issue linger in limbo forever.

Besides winning Premierships our number 1# priority is for the Melbourne Football Club to finally get a home base built. No more excuses!

We have been waiting over 50+ years.

As much as we want to be in the MCG precinct if that isn't plausible we will need to bite the bullet and look at other alternatives such as the Caulfield Racecourse which is building a massive sports facility there.

Every other club in the AFL has a home base. It is time for us to have the same!

They have locked themselves on  to the G only  plan and now they cannot back down. IMO a home will not be found until she leaves and someone who is not welded to the G takes over. 

[old dee 23,486]

52 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

The AAMI park redevelopment passing by without us being attached is a little worrying.

But there’s a massive MCG Southern Stand redevelopment on the horizon that really should include covering the train tracks and redeveloping Richmond station.

Maybe a late pivot has been made. 

What makes you think an incoming government will do that plan? They have already signalled that the health system is there major objective. 

[DeeSpencer 24,686]

51 minutes ago, old dee said:

What makes you think an incoming government will do that plan? They have already signalled that the health system is there major objective. 

The MCC and AFL have a lot of weight to get the Southern Stand rebuilt regardless of government. Expanding that to cover the train lines and redo Richmond station is more likely under Labor, but some part of that will probably be included. It’s years away and wouldn’t be the quick fix solution we want, but could be the answer. It’s just a thought. 

[Wells 11 5,264]

42 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

The MCC and AFL have a lot of weight to get the Southern Stand rebuilt regardless of government. Expanding that to cover the train lines and redo Richmond station is more likely under Labor, but some part of that will probably be included. It’s years away and wouldn’t be the quick fix solution we want, but could be the answer. It’s just a thought. 

your “it’s just a thought” sadly seems to be the best idea/ info we have. If the club doesn’t sort this out in our golden era, the members are gonna burn the house down on the way down. 
In an era where I feel amazingly proud of the club in almost all ways… it feels like we still have this one seriously embarrassing area. The thread taps  me into how I used to feel all the time about the dees. 

[old dee 23,486]

14 minutes ago, Wells 11 said:

your “it’s just a thought” sadly seems to be the best idea/ info we have. If the club doesn’t sort this out in our golden era, the members are gonna burn the house down on the way down. 
In an era where I feel amazingly proud of the club in almost all ways… it feels like we still have this one seriously embarrassing area. The thread taps  me into how I used to feel all the time about the dees. 

Cannot agree with you on the members burning the place down. MFC are too placid for that. We will just shake our heads and walk away. 

[Supreme_Demon 3,246]

It makes my blood boil with anger this current predicament! 😡

Look what the Western Bulldogs have here: https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1201190/bulldogs-set-for-vu-whitten-oval-surface-and-landscaping-works

Look what the Richmond Tigers have here: https://architectureau.com/articles/council-approves-65m-revamp-of-home-of-afl/

 

What about the Melbourne Demons? We are still football nomads having to travel between Casey Fields (which is wonderful but very far away from me) and Gosch's Paddock. With our offices at AAMI Park which we have to share with others.

We deserve a home base just for the Melbourne Football Club and nobody else.

The MCC have screwed us for years! They should of built us a home ground in the 1950s or 1960s. At least then we wouldn't have had to worry about the current circumstances we are in.

Having the administration and the football department separated has caused numerous problems over the decades.

None of us should EVER give up on this goal of a home base being built for the Melbourne Football Club. This is just as important (if not more) as winning more Premierships.

From now on, we as Melbourne members and supporters, must demand from the Melbourne Football Club board for this issue of a home base to be rectified!

If not in the MCG precinct (ideally), then Caulfield Racecourse or Toorak Park or wherever is an area that is suitable.

None of us should rest until our home base is finally built with a wonderful bronze statue of Robbie Flower or David Neitz out the front of it!

Edited August 27, 2022 by Supreme_Demon

[Sir Why You Little 36,602]

1 minute ago, Supreme_Demon said:

It makes my blood boil with anger this current predicament! 😡

Look what the Western Bulldogs have here: https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1201190/bulldogs-set-for-vu-whitten-oval-surface-and-landscaping-works

Look what the Richmond Tigers have here: https://architectureau.com/articles/council-approves-65m-revamp-of-home-of-afl/

 

What about the Melbourne Demons? We are still football nomads having to travel between Casey Fields (which is wonderful but very far away from me) and Gosch's Paddock.

 

The MCC have screwed us for years! They should of built us a home ground in the 1950s or 1960s. At least then we wouldn't have had to worry about the current circumstances we are in.

Having the administration and the football department separated has caused numerous problems over the decades.

None of us should EVER give up on this goal of a home base being built for the Melbourne Football Club. This is just as important (if not more) as winning more Premierships.

From now on, we as Melbourne members and supporters, must demand from the Melbourne Football Club board for this issue of a home base is rectified!

If not in the MCG precinct (ideally), then Caulfield Racecourse or Toorak Park or wherever is an area that is suitable.

None of us should rest until our home base is finally built with a wonderful bronze statue of Robbie Flower or David Neitz out the front of it!

Personally i just want to win Premiership Cups. As long as we play Home games on the MCG and are still under the Umbrella of the MCC i am cool

It will be decades before anything is built. 
Gosch’s has had an surface upgrade. That is the most important step at this stage

[Demon Disciple 11,607]

2 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Personally i just want to win Premiership Cups.

Yep, I too am in it solely for premierships.

However, if having a permanent home base gives us even a 5% boost of achieving them, then it’s a no-brainer for me.

Edited August 27, 2022 by Demon Disciple

[Neil Crompton 5,309]

Our home will be in the MCG precinct, and it will be done in conjunction with the Vic Govt. This has all been stated. What has pushed out is the timeline obviously. I highly doubt the Club has been telling porkies to us. What I believe is that there have been Govt delays or changes, to which we cannot speak, or else Rolley or Pert would have informed us. If it wasn’t going to happen we would have been told, and a new search would have been instigated. I have complete confidence it will happen. As someone has suggested, the delay may be that our new home could now be included in the MCG upgrade (which would be a far better option in my view - but may take longer).

As someone else said, premierships are more in our complete control now, so let’s get a couple more. The big picture will take care of itself, in its own time.

[BDA 22,250]

1 hour ago, Wells 11 said:

the members are gonna burn the house down on the way down

We don't have a house to burn down. that's the problem

[Sir Why You Little 36,602]

Where are the 13 Premiership Cups stored in Display?

AAMI Park…

[old dee 23,486]

41 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Where are the 13 Premiership Cups stored in Display?

AAMI Park…

I don't think there are 13 cups I am not sure when it changed but was only a flag at one stage. The flags were stored by the MCC and it a clean out they sent them to the tip. 

[old dee 23,486]

1 hour ago, Neil Crompton said:

Our home will be in the MCG precinct, and it will be done in conjunction with the Vic Govt. This has all been stated. What has pushed out is the timeline obviously. I highly doubt the Club has been telling porkies to us. What I believe is that there have been Govt delays or changes, to which we cannot speak, or else Rolley or Pert would have informed us. If it wasn’t going to happen we would have been told, and a new search would have been instigated. I have complete confidence it will happen. As someone has suggested, the delay may be that our new home could now be included in the MCG upgrade (which would be a far better option in my view - but may take longer).

As someone else said, premierships are more in our complete control now, so let’s get a couple more. The big picture will take care of itself, in its own time.

If that happens before 2030 I will be astounded. We have been hearing the same non story for 5-6 years now. I am over this " we cannot answer because it is at difficult stage " crap the current government has no interest in us. And why would they give money to a bunch of silver tails where there are no votes. Why can't they say there are some serious problems to getting our home. It is going to take another 5 years to get a site approved? What will the excuse be in December after a change of government? And if the current mob is returned? 

[KLV 1,758]

5 hours ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Why did the Pies leave their spiritual home in the first place?

I think the Dees deserve more the location at Olympic Park.

We were offered it first, said no, couldn’t afford it

[KLV 1,758]

1 hour ago, Neil Crompton said:

Our home will be in the MCG precinct, and it will be done in conjunction with the Vic Govt. This has all been stated. What has pushed out is the timeline obviously. I highly doubt the Club has been telling porkies to us. What I believe is that there have been Govt delays or changes, to which we cannot speak, or else Rolley or Pert would have informed us. If it wasn’t going to happen we would have been told, and a new search would have been instigated. I have complete confidence it will happen. As someone has suggested, the delay may be that our new home could now be included in the MCG upgrade (which would be a far better option in my view - but may take longer).

As someone else said, premierships are more in our complete control now, so let’s get a couple more. The big picture will take care of itself, in its own time.

I think also 2 years of Covid may be responsible for the government not being able to engage sufficiently to get it done. 

[old dee 23,486]

1 minute ago, KLV said:

I think also 2 years of Covid may be responsible for the government not being able to engage sufficiently to get it done. 

Oh please! 

[Sir Why You Little 36,602]

5 hours ago, old dee said:

I don't think there are 13 cups I am not sure when it changed but was only a flag at one stage. The flags were stored by the MCC and it a clean out they sent them to the tip. 

Yes there are 13 Cups old Boy

So as long as there is room for more, that can be home for now 

[Demon Dynasty 17,091]

51 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Yes there are 13 Cups old Boy

So as long as there is room for more, that can be home for now 

Looks like we're out of room there SW

[rpfc 28,046]

Can we just talk on the level here?

We have world class facilities for high performance at two locations; these enable our players to be the best they can be.

What we don’t have is a centralised base that houses our footy dept and our admin.

And we don’t have a social club aspect to any location that members can go to. 

The first one is a genuine annoyance and the second one is a laughable pipe dream, but neither of these things are a hindrance to winning games of footy and being successful.

Just thought it should be said.

[Spaghetti 264]

I get the disappointment, but some of the comments here are way over the top.

First, the Board is negotiating with Government. They cannot simply keep us updated on "where things are at" or tell us "what has gone wrong". That's a sure way to get nothing from Government. 

Second, the calls for Roffey or the Board to resign are wild. The club has never been as stable as it is right now. And people here want them to resign?! For what?! So the next people can come in, risk instability, and still not get it done like every board before them? No thanks.

We are all disappointed, but no way would I risk the current state of the club to take a punt on a new board that claims they can "get it sorted". We're in a premiership window, nothing should be done that could jeopardise the chance of more premierships in the coming years (including destabilising the Board).

[george_on_the_outer 7,427]

9 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Yes there are 13 Cups old Boy

So as long as there is room for more, that can be home for now 

Prior to 1959 there were no cups produced.  Only Flags.  In 2004 the AFL allowed clubs to purchase newly minted cups won before 1959.  They now receive a cup and a flag when the Premiership is won.

Edited August 27, 2022 by george_on_the_outer

[old dee 23,486]

1 hour ago, rpfc said:

Can we just talk on the level here?

We have world class facilities for high performance at two locations; these enable our players to be the best they can be.

What we don’t have is a centralised base that houses our footy dept and our admin.

And we don’t have a social club aspect to any location that members can go to. 

The first one is a genuine annoyance and the second one is a laughable pipe dream, but neither of these things are a hindrance to winning games of footy and being successful.

Just thought it should be said.

Spot on rpfc, I have been saving all through the absence at Goschs that Casey is an excellent facility and that we won a GF from there and away from the G. What is annoying is the time line. IMO things will only change with a change of government. There are no votes in it for the current mob. 

[old dee 23,486]

3 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

Prior to 1959 there were no cups produced.  Only Flags.  In 2004 the AFL allowed clubs to purchase newly minted cups won before 1959.  They now receive a cup and a flag when the Premiership is won.

Thanks George I thought I was correct. 

[He de mon 873]

6 minutes ago, old dee said:

Spot on rpfc, I have been saving all through the absence at Goschs that Casey is an excellent facility and that we won a GF from there and away from the G. What is annoying is the time line. IMO things will only change with a change of government. There are no votes in it for the current mob. 

Unfortuntely there are no votes in it for any government.