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  On 24/11/2020 at 02:13, Clintosaurus said:

Herald Sun doing a mock right now and have us taking Jake Bowey and Seamus Mitchell. NO, NO NO!!!!!

 

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I agree. No no no. Their predictions aren’t too bad except for our picks.  If Maher, Poulter or Ford (and Winder) are available, I would definitely draft before Bowey and Mitchell.  I’d even grab Baldwin according to this listing.  They have Mitchell very high imv and I’d look at him as a rookie option. He’s clever but nothing as a standout like Maher, Poulter, Ford or Winder. 

 
  On 24/11/2020 at 09:49, BAMF said:

Ok... do we have rookie space to move KK?

I believe so with Lockhart being promoted and Harley retiring (I assume he was on the rookie list like Mitch Brown was). I think our only current rookies are M.Brown and Chandler, and then there's Bradtke who is category B.


  On 24/11/2020 at 12:28, spirit of norm smith said:

The news means Nietschke wouldn’t be delisted and then drafted at Pick xx in the rookie draft. He just moves down. It makes sense.  

Do we have 3 rookie picks avialiable. I'm surprised they haven't done this for Kolodjashnij he makes the same amount of money on his contract but $80k is outside the cap. 

I think JTs list would be 

Finlay Macrae

Jack Carroll 

Archie Perkins

Nik Cox

Brayden Cook

(The first 5 are likely to all be drafted before our pick) 

* Errol Gulden (Swans academy) bid

Bailey Laurie

Caleb Poulter

Zavier Maher

Eddie Ford 

Kaine Baldwin 

Isiah Winder 

Nick Stevens 

hopefully we can get 3 of these youngsters on board 

 

 
  On 20/11/2020 at 09:29, ChaserJ said:

Was interesting that Cal reckons Ford sits somewhere in the pick 35 range. Can't quite work out why he's ranked so low, has some v good traits.

Like the look of his highlights 'Chaser', wouldn't be disappointed to pick him up.

  On 17/11/2020 at 04:19, TRIGON said:

 

Yes, I know they're highlights (so fairly superficial) however Ford looked very impressive. Creative, made tackles stick, good in the air and seemed to kick well off both feet.

Agreed. Eddie Ford was impressive in 2019 as an underage player for the Jets. Best Jets player since Callan Ward. As good as Cam Rayner. Disappointing that the Vic U18s comp didn’t get into the park in 2020.  Ford showed in the futures game at the G that he is as good as any in his year group.  I thought he’d be top 25 ranked (probably 18-20) so hoping he is a possibility for JT.  


  On 24/11/2020 at 22:38, spirit of norm smith said:

Agreed. Eddie Ford was impressive in 2019 as an underage player for the Jets. Best Jets player since Callan Ward. As good as Cam Rayner. Disappointing that the Vic U18s comp didn’t get into the park in 2020.  Ford showed in the futures game at the G that he is as good as any in his year group.  I thought he’d be top 25 ranked (probably 18-20) so hoping he is a possibility for JT.  

The Jets program is one of the greatest failures of the U18 comp, dare to say they would have the least number of players drafted by a long.

Cam Rayner, wasn't he No1 pick, if this guy is as good as Raynor how does he get to our first pick?

I agree @drdrake that the Jets have been the weakest program and probably had the lowest number of draftees. Over the last few years, they have had a good bunch of players drafted Rayner, Butters, OHalloran, Dugan, Sicily, Laverde, Hunter.  
It’s strange that Ford is not rated higher imv in this years draft. Time will tell.  

  On 20/11/2020 at 09:29, ChaserJ said:

Was interesting that Cal reckons Ford sits somewhere in the pick 35 range. Can't quite work out why he's ranked so low, has some v good traits.

Maybe it’s the socks up look but to me he seems a bit stiff in the hips and a bit of a straight line mover. Most of his tackling is straight on and same with his ball winning. 

Medium forwards who aren’t proven mids and don’t project as the right athletes to be good pressure players often drop. Curtis Taylor was similar and it’s still a question if he’ll be a steal or a flop. Melksham’s declining value to us similar.

At that height defenders can shut you down more often than not so you have to provide value with pressure, skills in congestion and/or midfield versatility. 

 

Interesting to see the Lions have only cut to 40 and have 4 spaces available in their total list.  Yet they have 3 quality zone/academy youngsters in Blake Coleman, Saxon Crozier and Carter Michael.   All 3 had good years in 2020 as they played in the local competition and might tempt JT to make a bid. They are all  have good skills and are fast running players. 


They sure are interesting comparisons! I’ve just been put off Finlay Macrae because he’s been compared to David Zaharakis!

Really hope this kid finds his way to us:

Bailey Laurie

  • Height: 179cm
  • Weight: 78kg
  • Weapon: High footy IQ
  • Player comparison: Brent Daniels, GWS GIANTS

Haven’t seen much discussion about Zac Reid in any threads (presumably will go before our picks). Just seen his highlights. Liked what i saw. I’d add composure to his weaponry. And the comparison to Harris Andrews! Could be the long-term replacement for S May? If we are looking at KPD then wouldn't be surprised if we moved up the order to select him.

Zac Reid

  • Height: 202cm
  • Weight: 83kg
  • Weapon: Overhead marking and absolute reach
  • Player comparison: Harris Andrews, Brisbane
  On 26/11/2020 at 19:18, Better days ahead said:

They sure are interesting comparisons! I’ve just been put off Finlay Macrae because he’s been compared to David Zaharakis!

Really hope this kid finds his way to us:

Bailey Laurie

  • Height: 179cm
  • Weight: 78kg
  • Weapon: High footy IQ
  • Player comparison: Brent Daniels, GWS GIANTS

Haven’t seen much discussion about Zac Reid in any threads (presumably will go before our picks). Just seen his highlights. Liked what i saw. I’d add composure to his weaponry. And the comparison to Harris Andrews! Could be the long-term replacement for S May? If we are looking at KPD then wouldn't be surprised if we moved up the order to select him.

Zac Reid

  • Height: 202cm
  • Weight: 83kg
  • Weapon: Overhead marking and absolute reach
  • Player comparison: Harris Andrews, Brisbane

David Zaharakis is a 217 game player. I would be wrapped if we could get that much value out of a pick in the mid 20s in a crapshoot of a draft. 

  On 26/11/2020 at 20:09, Fat Tony said:

David Zaharakis is a 217 game player. I would be wrapped if we could get that much value out of a pick in the mid 20s in a crapshoot of a draft. 

Fair point but I was being a little flippant. I thought it a strange comparison

  On 26/11/2020 at 20:19, Better days ahead said:

Fair point but I was being a little flippant. I thought it a strange comparison

It is a bit of a strange comparison, in the way he plays I'd say the best comparison for Macrae is Josh Kelly in the way that he can win the ball on the inside, get involved in link up play on the outside, the big endurance base, and the neat kicking. Not saying he'll get to that level but in the way he moves and plays that would be the best comparison I think. 


  On 24/11/2020 at 22:38, spirit of norm smith said:

Agreed. Eddie Ford was impressive in 2019 as an underage player for the Jets. Best Jets player since Callan Ward. As good as Cam Rayner. Disappointing that the Vic U18s comp didn’t get into the park in 2020.  Ford showed in the futures game at the G that he is as good as any in his year group.  I thought he’d be top 25 ranked (probably 18-20) so hoping he is a possibility for JT.  

i think this is pretty wide of the mark.  When I was involved in western suburbs football, Ward wasn't even the highest rate Jet internally in his own year and there is no chance current Jets people internally rate him as the best player they've had come through there, unless that individual has lost their mind!

  On 27/11/2020 at 08:35, goodoil said:

i think this is pretty wide of the mark.  When I was involved in western suburbs football, Ward wasn't even the highest rate Jet internally in his own year and there is no chance current Jets people internally rate him as the best player they've had come through there, unless that individual has lost their mind!

Surely you don’t rate yourself as the #1 person to role through the joint goodoil ?

  On 27/11/2020 at 09:35, Demon Disciple said:

Surely you don’t rate yourself as the #1 person to role through the joint goodoil ?

i was referring to Ford in the second part.  I would be 10,000th id imagine.

 

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