The Splitting of Pick 8

[ben russell 764]

12 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Hoping to split pick 8 into 10+22.

Take Young/Jackson at 3. We could then use 10 to grab whoever is left out of Kemp, Serong, Stephens, Ash etc. 22 can then be used on a small forward such as Weightman, Taylor or Pickett.

A combination of those 3 players being added to the list would be a great draft period for us.

Add Langdon, Tomlinson and Bennell, and it's a good off-season!

Yeah would be happy with that outcome.

Specifically Young, Kemp and Weightman would be my dream result.

Reasonably confident that Kemp would still be there at 10 but less confident on Weightman at 22.

[Pennant St Dee 13,173]

1 hour ago, ChaserJ said:

There's an increasing chance that Young gets through to 8, so I hope we don't make a decision to split until draft day, but with clubs rankings of players and more knowledge of where players might go, it looks like picks in the 20's will be handy as there may be a few (generally) highly rated kids slipping through.

If we get to 8 and Young and Ash are off the board, I'm comfortable splitting as we are a good chance of getting similar types a bit later on as well getting a small forward. What this draft pool does have is a number of half-back options and small forwards!

Agree, Chaser  I think GWS are the most likely to take Young if we don't. Crows I'm not sure on they need some outside run like we do and another small forward to replace Betts/Cameron 

Sydney IMO will take Flanders as a big mid after bidding for Green

Freo will take Robertson if Jackson is gone IMO

[Paulo 285]

22 hours ago, Colm said:

Yeah agree with more or less all of that. I’m now of the opinion we will take Jackson at 3 and weight and see who’s available at 8 before pulling trigger on possible split. It will also depend who we are doing split with I guess as well. If Young is gone but still 3/4 players we rate highly like Kemp, Weightman,Serong or Stephens then we might be tempted to do a deal with Freo as we know some of those players will still be there at 10. 

 

i agree we should wait until draft night to make sure our target at eight is still there, if he is gone  then we place a bid on henry, forcing freo to trade 10, and 22, for 8 . its a no brainer to me.

 

stephens has not been linked to us, i could be wrong but i doubt the club rates him top 12 , i also get a feeling we are not that into young either and we were never going to take him at 3, but would consider him at 8

 

i will take a stab in the dark at what i think our draft list might look like 

rowell, anderson, jackson, green, ash,  young, kemp, henry, flanders, serong, robertsen weightman, pickett, mcasey, stephens

Edited November 21, 2019 by Paulo

[daisycutter 29,616]

1 minute ago, Paulo said:

 

i agree we should wait until draft night to make sure our target at eight is still there, if he is gone  then we place a bid on henry, forcing freo to trade 10, and 22, for 8 . its a no brainer to me.

 

 

 

hmmm, not a bad move....like it

[spirit of norm smith 16,457]

Pick 8 for Freo pick 10 + pick 22 makes sense. It helps both clubs 

[the fork 357]

 

Cal Twomey tweeting three way trade for 8 between Freo, Adelaide and us:
 

Another trade in the works. Freo poised to move up to pick 8 in a three-way deal with Melbourne and Adelaide.

Edited November 21, 2019 by the fork

[DeeSpencer 25,708]

Surely

Melb: 8 for 10, 23

Freo: 10, 22 for 8

Adelaide: 23 for 22

[Lucifers Hero 39,805]

3 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Surely

Melb: 8 for 10, 23

Freo: 10, 22 for 8

Adelaide: 23 for 22

Hmmm...why bother including Adelaide?  Freo and Dees can just do 8 for 10,22.  Has to be more to it.  Adelaide is holding a stack of 2020 picks 2 x first, 2 x second, 0 third and 2 time fourth  - one or more could be in play.

Edited November 21, 2019 by Lucifer's Hero

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,734]

Just now, Lucifer's Hero said:

Hmmm...why bother including Adelaide?  Freo and Dees can just do 8 for 10,22.  Has to be more to it.

Apparently they can't because we already had pick 22.... some new stupid AFL rule because of the Sydney/West Coast draft tampering last year.

[DeeSpencer 25,708]

Just now, Lucifer's Hero said:

Hmmm...why bother including Adelaide?  Freo and Dees can just do 8 for 10,22.  Has to be more to it.

We aren't allowed to get 22 back from the Dockers directly if I've read the rules correctly. That's the Swans loophole last year closing. So the Crows get a one pick slide for making things work, probably some late picks mixed in

[DeeSpencer 25,708]

 

Yikes. 23 not included. We might be sliding down the order more than I thought. (why am I not surprised)

[roy11 3,853]

6 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Surely

Melb: 8 for 10, 23

Freo: 10, 22 for 8

Adelaide: 23 for 22

[Lucifers Hero 39,805]

4 minutes ago, Collar-Jazz-Knee said:

Apparently they can't because we already had pick 22.... some new stupid AFL rule because of the Sydney/West Coast draft tampering last year.

 

4 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

We aren't allowed to get 22 back from the Dockers directly if I've read the rules correctly. That's the Swans loophole last year closing. So the Crows get a one pick slide for making things work, probably some late picks mixed in

Not sure that is the case.  There have been a huge no of picks changed hands there is no way the AFL can police those during the 5 minutes between live trades.  They can't have one rule this week and another during live trade.

Can anyone find a reference to the rule that says we can't do that trade with Freo.

Edited November 21, 2019 by Lucifer's Hero

[Demon3 2,541]

I hope vasoline was included...

[DeeSpencer 25,708]

1 minute ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

 

Not sure that is the case.  There have been a huge no of picks changed hands there is no way the AFL can police those during the 5 minutes between live trades.  They can't have one rule this week and another during live trade.

Of course they can, you could have a computer program keep track of which pick has gone where and have a big fat alarm go off if the rules are broken.

Plus clubs will know the rules and know which picks they can and can't deal and where. 

The deals in recent days have all been about clubs getting late round picks so they can trade their future first rounders. Clubs are aware of the rules.

 

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,734]

Deal done

 

[ben russell 764]

Confirmation on the AFL site that Freo have pick 8 and we have pick 10. Other picks involved haven’t been disclosed yet.

[DeeSpencer 25,708]

So far this is more about Freo opening up their future first round pick. My guess is they'll match a bid for Henry with junk picks then look to trade back in to the mid/late first round.

There's going to be some bargain picks on offer for teams brave enough to defer until next year. Should we do that??? 

Brisbane got Port's first rounder next year for pick 16! I'd be willing to bet that works out for Brisbane.

[whelan45 203]

It's 8 for 10, 28 and Carlton future 4th. On MFC app

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,734]

Seems to be pick 28 not 23....

Not as great, but I guess it's a free pick for sliding back two spots.

[AshleyH30 566]

Confirmed.

8 For 10, 28 and Future 4th

[Redleg 40,925]

2 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Agree, Chaser  I think GWS are the most likely to take Young if we don't. Crows I'm not sure on they need some outside run like we do and another small forward to replace Betts/Cameron 

Sydney IMO will take Flanders as a big mid after bidding for Green

Freo will take Robertson if Jackson is gone IMO

Am I missing something. Didn’t Crows trade their pick 4? Why are we discussing what they will do before 8?

[markc 975]

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2019-11-21/melbourne-involved-in-pick-swap?fbclid=IwAR3VzCv1Vl73mJj5a2WOzFpmFAcAe2zUFbuP2b0yVqm4_v-3unEk-fGIW1U

[Demon3 2,541]

3, 10, & 28 now plus a 4th rounder. Lets hope we get the player we wanted at 10 that we would have got at 8 and then go for Pickett at 28. 

[roy11 3,853]

1 minute ago, Collar-Jazz-Knee said:

Seems to be pick 28 not 23....

Not as great, but I guess it's a free pick for sliding back two spots.

yeh that's how i see it too.

They keep saying how open the Picks 3-10 are etc, so it's not too much of a loss going down 2 spots, and who knows what the order will be anyway.