When big clubs stop being big clubs

[Youngwilliam 381]

Be worth the MCC members to stay away from the players race when we lose. Clapping the players off when they put in a good effort but lose should not be tolerated. 

Is it too much to only want wins? Auskick kids play to have fun, professionals play for their future.

[Fork 'em 6,983]

On 9/24/2019 at 11:36 AM, nosoupforme said:

Going to the game and being beaten by 10 goals and applauding our team off for trying doesn't go well for building a winning culture however hard you try. Players get the sense of security that at least they are having a go. That is B SHIYT.............

 

You know.
One of the most embarrassing things I've seen at the footy was when I took my young kids over to the players race after the game (a loss) so they could see the players close up.
The abuse the players were copping from grown men was an absolute disgrace.
When I realised what was going on I gathered the kids up and shot through.
That B SHYT is not the example of how adults are supposed to behave at the football.

And ya know what ..... The post game abuse didn't help.
We were crap the next week, and the week after that, and the ........
 

Edited September 26, 2019 by Fork 'em

[nosoupforme 3,085]

57 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

You know.
One of the most embarrassing things I've seen at the footy was when I took my young kids over to the players race after the game so they could see the players close up.
The abuse the players were copping from grown men was an absolute disgrace.
When I realised what was going on I gathered the kids up and shot through.
That B SHYT is not the example of how adults are supposed to behave at the football.

And ya know what ..... The post game abuse didn't help.
We were crap the next week, and the week after that, and the ........
 

I agree with you there and l am not rubbishing the players as l am not one to do so . I had children that l took to watch the games and they still go win or lose . As adults they are,  they get disappointed as l do but it is not the end of the world. However you look at it a 10 goal loss or and a WELL DONE FOR TRYING   is not worth an applause and certainly i wouldn't heckle them for it and l don't abuse them.

It is not good enough and the culture is not right as they still carry scars of the past.

I am on the same page with you they have just got to try harder and give  their all like the good clubs do consistently.. I am sure they like what they earn. Maybe l shouldn't have mentioned the bs.

I send you this post for l am not one to bother usually.  However l enjoy reading your posts.

Edited September 26, 2019 by nosoupforme

[Demonsone 2,037]

We went from the most feared, respected club to an irrelevant club.. Norm Smith before his departure said the MFC is slipping.... enough said 

[nosoupforme 3,085]

1 hour ago, Demonsone said:

We went from the most feared, respected club to an irrelevant club.. Norm Smith before his departure said the MFC is slipping.... enough said 

You can blame the administration of the times, however you are talking almost 60 years ago and we have moved on. 

There is some light at the end of this and we can turn it around sooner rather than later. Start having the faith again. D.

 

[Demonsone 2,037]

1 hour ago, nosoupforme said:

You can blame the administration of the times, however you are talking almost 60 years ago and we have moved on. 

There is some light at the end of this and we can turn it around sooner rather than later. Start having the faith again. D.

 

Every year I buy a membership & hope to experience what my tiger, bulldogs, hawk supporter mates have. I hate talking negative but as MFC supporters we certainly haven't had much to cheer about.

[Mel Bourne 4,515]

On 9/23/2019 at 6:12 PM, ding said:

Im sure he actually meant  after he's gone. His kinda dumb though so it wouldn't surprise me.

Cotchin sounds like Gore Vidal compared to Jack Viney. 

[Mel Bourne 4,515]

16 minutes ago, Demonsone said:

Every year I buy a membership & hope to experience what my tiger, bulldogs, hawk supporter mates have. I hate talking negative but as MFC supporters we certainly haven't had much to cheer about.

Though it’s true that constant negativity can be tiresome and even more dangerously, risks becoming the accepted norm, I’m becoming increasingly bored by people who rap others over the knuckles for not being positive. 

Though the game itself is anchored in undeniable truths via a set of rules and results, following a sporting team is altogether abstract. Investing time and genuine emotion into a group of strangers chasing a ball around a ground week after week is f$&king strange no matter which way you slice it. But you take what you want from it. There is no “correct” way to enjoy sport. If somebody wants to be negative about the sporting club they follow, then absolutely go for it. And the exact same thing applies to the opposite. 

If you’re a supporter who is affronted by another’s negativity, then go and stand somewhere else or ignore what they write. But the second you start berating that person you’re being a bit of a fascist. 

Also, people who have lived out the majority of their life without seeing their team win a premiership have every right to be a bit negative, so I don’t blame any of the posters here for having a vent. It’s a frustrating thing.

 

 

[Demonstone 22,518]

Stop being so negative, Mel!   ?

[Engorged Onion 10,215]

18 minutes ago, Mel Bourne said:

Though it’s true that constant negativity can be tiresome and even more dangerously, risks becoming the accepted norm, I’m becoming increasingly bored by people who rap others over the knuckles for not being positive. 

Though the game itself is anchored in undeniable truths via a set of rules and results, following a sporting team is altogether abstract. Investing time and genuine emotion into a group of strangers chasing a ball around a ground week after week is f$&king strange no matter which way you slice it. But you take what you want from it. There is no “correct” way to enjoy sport. If somebody wants to be negative about the sporting club they follow, then absolutely go for it. And the exact same thing applies to the opposite. 

If you’re a supporter who is affronted by another’s negativity, then go and stand somewhere else or ignore what they write. But the second you start berating that person you’re being a bit of a fascist. 

Also, people who have lived out the majority of their life without seeing their team win a premiership have every right to be a bit negative, so I don’t blame any of the posters here for having a vent. It’s a frustrating thing.

 

 

It's all a lovely big sexy sticky sweaty orgy on this forum when we are winning though...

[Mel Bourne 4,515]

1 minute ago, Engorged Onion said:

It's all a lovely big sexy sticky sweaty orgy on this forum when we are winning though...

Which I will always happily attend! 

[Fork 'em 6,983]

10 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

It's all a lovely big sexy sticky sweaty orgy on this forum when we are winning though...

Little wonder.
They're a rare event around these parts.

 

[58er 6,435]

On 9/24/2019 at 1:13 PM, rjay said:

Yep, and when the club sent out the email to supporters about the coming forum the letter from the Prez & CEO stated we wanted to be up there and challenging for a Premiership consistently.

Only words but they should really have committed to winning the thing not just challenging...

Really that is a nitpicking of use of words.

Challenging means contending and if you ain't doing either then you are not in the race.

Committed to winning is what ALL Clubs are (saying publicly or privately) but challenging/contending is the real achievement.

Yes it is only words and U believe the statement of our aims is exactly what we fans want.

Be a chance each season ie contend and challenge.

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

A few more honourable losses this year would've been gratefully received.

At the very least, it would've improved our percentage.

 

[Demonsone 2,037]

3 hours ago, Mel Bourne said:

Though it’s true that constant negativity can be tiresome and even more dangerously, risks becoming the accepted norm, I’m becoming increasingly bored by people who rap others over the knuckles for not being positive. 

Though the game itself is anchored in undeniable truths via a set of rules and results, following a sporting team is altogether abstract. Investing time and genuine emotion into a group of strangers chasing a ball around a ground week after week is f$&king strange no matter which way you slice it. But you take what you want from it. There is no “correct” way to enjoy sport. If somebody wants to be negative about the sporting club they follow, then absolutely go for it. And the exact same thing applies to the opposite. 

If you’re a supporter who is affronted by another’s negativity, then go and stand somewhere else or ignore what they write. But the second you start berating that person you’re being a bit of a fascist. 

Also, people who have lived out the majority of their life without seeing their team win a premiership have every right to be a bit negative, so I don’t blame any of the posters here for having a vent. It’s a frustrating thing.

 

 

Well said, its a democracy & all should have the freedom to express their views either way negative or positive. Lets hope the club can break our flag drought to come together & celebrate!

[rjay 24,924]

On 9/24/2019 at 1:13 PM, rjay said:

Yep, and when the club sent out the email to supporters about the coming forum the letter from the Prez & CEO stated we wanted to be up there and challenging for a Premiership consistently.

Only words but they should really have committed to winning the thing not just challenging...

 

1 hour ago, 58er said:

Really that is a nitpicking of use of words.

Challenging means contending and if you ain't doing either then you are not in the race.

Committed to winning is what ALL Clubs are (saying publicly or privately) but challenging/contending is the real achievement.

Yes it is only words and U believe the statement of our aims is exactly what we fans want.

Be a chance each season ie contend and challenge.

Maybe, but when you are setting goals words are important.

I would like to see are chiefs put their pills on the line and not just make a motherhood statement like challenging...

[Demonsone 2,037]

How does the MFC compete against the bigger clubs in Victoria now?

With another sleeping giant awoken Richmond attracting 100K membership along with the Hawks, Cats, Pies and with the other sleeping giants of Ess, Bues & even the  Saints. Will the MFC run out of time to gain its share or just make up the numbers for survival??

• With no home base were do we celebrate as fans after seeing tigers Swan st celebrations, the streets of Casey???
• We train at Gosche paddock with our admin all over the place & yet no solution??
• Why can't we develop Gosch paddock  into a proper training venue like the pies did & build training & house all of our football/marketing etc under one roof

[Adam The God 30,249]

Sorry, the simplest way to compete is success and true success (ie winning flags).

We added 8,000 members between 2018 and 2019 on the back of a walloping in a preliminary final. 

If we won a flag, we'd get 70,000 members. If we can have sustained success we start to convert other fickle supporters from other clubs like Essendon did in the 90s and Hawthorn have done in the 10s.

We have a largely dormant supporter base too. It's not as big as the traditional Melbourne-based 'big' clubs, but that's due to years of being perennial losers. Winning flags changes that.

Edited September 29, 2019 by A F

[Lord Nev 13,512]

Do we really need the same thread from you over and over and over?

 

[Supreme_Demon 3,847]

It's all about winning.

You win games. You win supporters.

You win Premierships. You win even more supporters.

Nobody likes a loser.

And the Demons have made the finals only 13 times in the past 55 years and have not won a Premiership since 1964.

The massive aim is to change this around in the next 5 to 10 years.

Edited September 29, 2019 by Supreme_Demon

[Demonsone 2,037]

45 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Do we really need the same thread from you over and over and over?

 

Great research, what can I say its a discussion site, though I don't like being negative the reality is what it is about the status of the MFC. 

[spalding 1,128]

Maybe it’s more like an “angry old men yelling at clouds” site. Same names, some complaints yet different topic.

 

and before you tee-off on me I am also (relatively) old, a long time member who is angry about MFC and 2019. Just don’t feel the need to keep harping on about the same problems day after day. 

[Demonsone 2,037]

32 minutes ago, spalding said:

Maybe it’s more like an “angry old men yelling at clouds” site. Same names, some complaints yet different topic.

 

and before you tee-off on me I am also (relatively) old, a long time member who is angry about MFC and 2019. Just don’t feel the need to keep harping on about the same problems day after day. 

How do you bring about change then??

Perhaps let sit around a fire & say how wonderful & successful the MFC is!

Edited September 29, 2019 by Demonsone

[Adam The God 30,249]

46 minutes ago, Demonsone said:

How do you bring about change then??

Perhaps let sit around a fire & say how wonderful & successful the MFC is!

Lol. You don't really think you can bring about change on an unofficial forum do you?

And simply lambasting the club on the internet isn't really going to bring about change.

Edited September 29, 2019 by A F

[DubDee 25,860]

It’s a great time to compete with Vic clubs. Dons, blues and saints all poor. Hawks are in for a rough patch. 

As seen by our two finals last year with 90K plus the fans come out quickly when you win. Get that right and we’ll be fine off field